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EMINENCE
811 Elizabeth St, Joynton Av, Zetland Av
Zetland

Update pix taken 25 July

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View along Joynton Avenue toward Elizabeth St while Zetland Av will be on the left.

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Closer view from Joynton Av. The long line of the building shown here will front onto Zetland Av.
 

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GREEN SQUARE TOWN CENTRE PLANNING PROPOSAL aka DCP 2011

It's been a while since this plan was posted, so here it is as a reminder of what is to come in the hope that those prone to immediate judgement can get some idea of future context.

This is the Planning Proposal of 2011 which remains essentially the same.

Changes include finalisation of form of Infinity on corner of Botany and Bourke and Ovo Tower becoming elliptical rather than square.

The station tower is the dark grey block with a curved form and with be commercial/mixed use and 21storeys. It will sit atop of the triangular bit of landscaping between Bourke Road and O'Riordan Street, the latter will disappear between Wyndham Street and Botany Road.

You can't see it here but Transport Place above the station will be enlarged; work is underway for the 2 buildings on the south side of Transport Place, 8 storeys to Botany Road and 15 storeys to O'Riordan Street.

The 18 storey tower complex between Joynton Avenue and Portman Street (on future Zetland Avenue) on the former Sth Syd Hospital site has been eliminated in favour of a primary school-community centre.

"New Cross Street" is Geddes Avenue.

For reasons best known to someone in the caverns of council & Mirvac-Landcom, Dunning Avenue has been variously renamed Paul Street (Zetland Av to Tosh Lane) and Ebsworth Street (Bourke St to Zetland Av).

Emerald City is not indicated here in planned form except as it currently is so the towers need to be added in your imagination.

Also, the indicated complex of buildings on Joynton Avenue on the former SthSydCouncil site are being replaced by GPARC, the Gunyama Park & Aquatic Recreation Centre aka park and pool.


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INFINITY & OVO, and LATERAL RESIDENCES
today's pix
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Infinity & Ovo Tower viewed from Johnson Street.
The black hoarding is on a building site planned to have a 3 (?) storey commercial building, showroom (car) and offices above.

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Lateral Residences on Sonny Leonard Street viewed from Botany Road at Johnson Street.
 

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INFINITY & OVO, and LATERAL RESIDENCES
today's pix
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Infinity & Ovo Tower viewed from Johnson Street.
The black hoarding is on a building site planned to have a 3 (?) storey commercial building, showroom (car) and offices above.

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Lateral Residences on Sonny Leonard Street viewed from Botany Road at Johnson Street.
Looks bugger all like its promotional photo

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That's because you've got the adjoining Lateral Residences on Botany Road. They will go on the west side of Hinchcliffe Street from the buildings shown in my photo.
 

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Aug1 updates

shadow play


dunning/mentmore


Epsom rd


Portman/Joynton


 
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Portman on the Park
Zetland Av, Portman Street, Barker Street
Zetland

Off-the-Plan sales start tonight at 7pm, by appointment.
Rate and number of sales will give us an idea of how the market is faring.
Also implies construction will commence sooner...or later.

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COPIED OVER FROM GREEN SQUARE THREAD
SimTower said:
Anyone know what's happening with these sites?

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GREEN SQUARE TOWN CENTRE

TRIANGULAR SITE
Sites 7, 17 & 18

Site 7 & 17

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Viewed across Green Square Plaza.
Site 7 on left includes Cinema Centre, retail & apartments.
Site 17 on right includes retail, commercial & apartments.
Architect: TZANNES

Site 18
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Viewed looking west on Zetland Avenue at The Drying Green Park.
NB Library Tower in distance on Green Square Plaza.
Architect: BATES SMART

RECTANGULAR SITE
Sites 8 A, B, C & D, & 19 A & B
Stage 1 plans for sites 8 C & D, & for 19 A & B have been approved but no further progress is known (to me).

Indicative Concept from 2016 so buildings across GSQ Plaza are indicative only and Infinity is missing altogether. At least Ovo Tower is recognisable:
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Left: Sites 8 A & B will be mixed use/commercial [Botany Road]
Centre: Sites 8 C & D will be mixed use/residential [between Hinchcliffe Street & Barker Street]
Right: Sites 19 A & B will be mixed use/residential [Paul Street]
 

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Portman on the Park - site demolition and clearing so far...

pix x Viclocal

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Portman Lane with the construction site on the right. In the background, the UNO tower.

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View across site from Portman Lane to construction site of The Drying Green Park (blue pipes, etc.)
The 1970s building is doomed, will go to make way for the promised primary school & community centre.
Tower in the background is part of Meriton's Symphony development.
 

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Sites 11 A & B
Lateral Estates SONNY LEONARD STREET BUILDINGS
SITES 11A & 11B

[don't know if the 2 building have their own name yet apart from Lateral Residences which also seems to apply to Lateral's buildings on Botany Road/Hinchliffe Street]
Architect: CANDALEPAS ARCHITECTS
Construction update @ 28 September

Pls NB the northern front will be covered by Bridgehill's planned building on Site 9B Geddes Avenue.
This:
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Architect: MHNDU.

LATERAL ESTATES - PART 0NE - THE WESTERN END

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View of north side from the top of the Barker Street Steps on Portman Lane.
The vacant site in front of it is Site 9B see ^

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View from intersection of Botany Road and Geddes Avenue.
Black boxes are on Bridgehill's Site 9A (plan for 16 storeys) while the white dongas are on the site of Bridgehill's Site 9B (plan for 11 storeys).

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View from Botany Road of Sonny Leonard Street with Building A on the left, Building B on the right.

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View from Botany Road across the site of the planned Lateral Estates buildings on Botany Rd/Hinchcliffe Street to Sonny Leonard Street.
Tosh Lane is on the extreme right.

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View from Emmanuel Lane near Tosh Lane. Emmanuel Lane becomes Hinchcliffe Street at Tosh Lane.
Glimpses of Infinity and Ovo Tower on the left.
Several fine gums on Tosh Lane have been preserved though the flourishing grevilleas got the chop to my dismay.
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I have seen the entries for the design competition for these Lateral Estate buildings and I would have chosen the entry by Koichi Takada Architects as it had much more character and visual appeal BUT it included a tiny tower section on the corner of Building A at Paul Street & Sonny Leonard, which exceeded the council's DCP height limit which meant it was eliminated on the grounds of 'Not Conforming to Council DCP'.
A lesson in bureaucracy winning over architectural quality.
This illustrates one of the drawbacks of design competitions aiming for the most conforming rather than the best design, visually at least.
This has happened a number of times and shows some architects are too damn creative for their own good! Harumph. Bah, humbug. And so on.
 

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Having walked around the newer streets of Zetland recently I couldn’t agree more. The quality of design is going downhill at a rapid rate.
 

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Lateral Estates SONNY LEONARD STREET BUILDINGS
SITES 11A & 11B continued


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Townhouses backing onto Tosh Lane.
Garbage bins courtesy of residents of Hansard Street. Tosh Lane is the old dunny lane.

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Detail of Building B from Tosh Lane.
Saved Robinia in bloom.

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East end of Building B on Paul Street at Tosh Lane.

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Building B apartment block east end on Paul Street with Sonny Leonard Street on the right.
Scaffolding still on the south front of Building A.

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Building B north front to Sonny Leonard Street from across Paul Street.

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Building A north front to the site of Bridgehill's Site 9B 11 storey building, viewed from across Paul Street.
There will be landscaping between the two buildings some of which can be seen here.
 

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Please note that while I said I preferred the KTA design of the entries in the design competition for this project, I did not say the Candalepas is bad design or poor architecture. It is actually turning out better than I thought it would. I also acknowledge that despite the heavy hand of council's DCPs for projects in Green Square and the Town Centre especially, there are other aspects to judging a design than prettiness. I do not agree that the quality of design is in decline though it does vary, in my opinion, from project to project.
 

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An outbreak of locals claiming Ovo Tower and Infinity are 'out of place', etc., lead me to checking the Town Centre model pix.
Here's one from august 2019, showing the projected buildings as they will be in the next decade or so.
Locals don't inform themselves about what is planned but have very definite opinions so they might be in for a bit of a shock once all the projected buildings are constructed.

KEY:
white - DCP envelope
grey - approved
red - under construction
beige - completed
NB this is from 14 months ago so some buildings in white here are now in grey, e.g., Site 15 Portman on the Park, and Emerald City (Stage 1), or under construction, e.g., Site 14 Eminence.

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As for trying to educate locals via local fb pages I can only say, in some frustration, "you can lead a local to knowledge but you can't make it think."
 

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Mirvac places 800-unit bet on Sydney apartment market
oct 8 AFR
Mirvac is casting a vote of confidence in Sydney's apartment market by acquiring the last two stages
in Landcom's Green Square Town Centre


Mirvac will start construction in mid-2022 on the development comprising nine buildings in total with about 800 build-to-sell apartments,
7,600 sq m of retail space and 47,500 sq m of commercial space - with a total end value of $2 billion.

Mirvac’s head of residential, Stuart Penklis, said the acquisition was in line with the company's urban strategy to restock its residential development pipeline with projects that were well located with strong demand.

"This is a market we know very well and ultimately the level of infrastructure that has already beEM delivered into Green Square by the state government and City of Sydney council, gives us significant confidence around demand and that demand is obviously heavily weighted towards owner-occupiers," Mr Penklis said.

The final stages of the project were sold to Mirvac by Landcom, the major landowner within the Green Square Town Centre, for an undisclosed sum.

The pair have already built 476 apartments across two towers and a new "high street" in the town centre with another 323 apartments and terrace homes on the way.

Mirvac and Landcom will begin to sell those apartments off the plan in the next few weeks.
It will be the first launch of a significant apartment project in recent times in a city in which the new housing pipeline is shrinking.


 

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sorry so what site is this?
 

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"ASX-listed Mirvac will start construction in mid-2022 on the development comprising nine buildings in total with about 800 build-to-sell apartments, 7,600 sq m of retail space and 47,500 sq m of commercial space - with a total end value of $2 billion, 4km south of the CBD."

The article doesn't specify which sites are included but:

I'm guessing the sites are:

Sites 7, 17 & 18 (btwn Ebsworth St, Paul St, GSQ Plaza and Tweed Pl) and

Sites 8A-D & 19A&B (btwn Botany Rd, GSQ Plaza, Paul St and Geddes Av).
See post 1539 ^

"...with another 323 apartments and terrace homes on the way." This is Site 15 Portman on the Park project which is already selling off-the-plan.
See post 1527 ^
 

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Is that the big block between the Square and Geddes?

A construction start in 2022 means they'll start to be occupied just as Green Square station gets a big boost in TPH once the Metro opens.
 
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