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A Planning Proposal has been lodged for 112 Talavera Road, Macquarie Park

Ryde council has approved the proposal and forwarded it for gateway detetmination.

The planning proposal seeks to increase the maximum height control from 45m to 200m
and introducing a design excellence clause for buildings over 150m in height.

Yes 200m proposed for Macquarie Park:)

Owner of the site - Meriton Group

Architectural concept - SJB

Approximate heights..

Building A 90m 27 levels

Building B 200m 60 levels

Building C 100m 30 levels

Building D 150m 45 levels


Increasing the height reduces the number of buildings and overall floorplates across the site,
creating more communal open space opportunities with better solar access

No of apartments 1,256

http://leptracking.planning.nsw.gov.au/proposaldetails.php?rid=5240























view from corner Herring rd and M2



 

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wow, great news. 200m in the burbs? sounds awesome
 

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Wow and the national park across the way will ensure it remains green!
 

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DA lodged for stage 1 of the project

Building A

Ryde council LDA2018/0269

The subject proposal seeks development of Stage 1 of the entire site, and the remainder of the
site will be subject to a future design competition once the Planning Proposal has been exhibited
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Height - RL133.362 - RL 45.85 = 87.512

The proposal seeks consent for the following works in Stage 1:

•Detailed design of a residential flat building with heights of 6 and 27 storeys
221 residential units, 2 retail tenancies and 1 childcare centre;

5 levels of above ground car parking accommodating a total of 212 car parking spaces;

DKO architecture

Developer - Meriton


Demolition of the existing buildings on the site is scheduled to commence in January 2019.

https://www.ryde.nsw.gov.au/haveyoursay/Lets-Plan/Major-Development-Applications-and-State-Significant-Projects-on-Exhibition#112TalaveraRoadMacquariePark







 

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Tall tower reduced from 60 to 42 levels
I will check out the planning proposal tomorrow and get more details..

Residential tower rejected by council - but development drama isn't over yet
dec 5 smh
The Ryde residential tower that has become a lightning rod for political concerns about development in Sydney has been rejected
by the local council, but could still proceed if approved by the state government.

Councillors from the City of Ryde on Tuesday night voted to refuse a planning proposal submitted by developer Meriton
for a 42-storey tower at 112 Talavera Road, Macquarie Park, despite council staff recommending that the project had merit.

The original plan from Meriton that included a 63-storey tower was rejected by Ryde Council.

Meriton had earlier submitted a proposal for a 63-storey tower, which would have been one of Sydney’s tallest residential structures,
but lowered it in response to community concerns.


The Member for Ryde, Victor Dominello, has been leading a campaign against the proposal.

Meriton’s revised Macquarie Park proposal which included three 42-storey towers, down from the original plan of 63 storeys at 112 Talavera Road.CREDIT:RYDE COUNCIL

However the planning proposal could still proceed if approved by the Minister for Planning or a delegate.

Mr Dominello, the Minister for Finance, has been unusually vocal in his concerns about development in his local area,
prompting developers to warn of a “Dominello Effect” of anti-development political rhetoric across the city.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/residential-tower-rejected-by-council-but-development-drama-isn-t-over-yet-20181205-p50k9y.html

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Start firing at me, but im kind of glad the tower height was reduced. Height is good but not when you're literally surrounded by a leafy national park. Bring it down even more i say
 

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the site needs height i think 42 st is perfect
 

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https://www.propertyobserver.com.au/forward-planning/investment-strategy/politics-and-policy/93245-ryde-planning-rejection-demonstrates-flaws-in-the-nsw-planning-system-chris-johnson.html?utm_source=Property+Observer+List&utm_campaign=ca8c662a12-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_09_28_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_a523fbfccb-ca8c662a12-245323129


Ryde planning rejection demonstrates flaws in the NSW planning system: Chris Johnson

EXPERT OBSERVER

The decision by Ryde Council to reject a planning proposal due to community concerns demonstrates a flaw in the NSW Planning system.

Ryde Mayor Jerome Laxale used the fact that around 400 submissions were against a planning proposal for a large development at Macquarie Park as the reason to reject the proposal despite the clear support from council staff in their detailed report.

Mayor Laxale stressed the loss of local amenity and character as a community concern but clearly the project was creating a new local character.

The NSW Department of Planning promotes the importance of community participation as being about ‘preserving local character’ in their draft Community Participation Plan.

Clearly new projects in Planned Precincts and areas around rail stations are going to have a new character that is quite different to the existing local character.

At the Ryde Council meeting many community members said they wanted no development and that they wanted to preserve the existing character of their area.

The Exhibition Draft of the Department of Planning and Environment’s Community Participation Plan lists three reasons why community participation is important.

This includes ‘Community participation creates a shared sense of purpose, direction and understanding of the need to manage growth and change, while preserving local character.’

Clearly the preservation of local character leads to minimal growth and change and this is contributing to the anti-development attitude by some community members in Ryde.

In a pre-election environment a number of politicians are using the government policy of ‘preserving local character’ to lobby communities against new development.

This approach is particularly apparent in Ryde where the local member, Victor Dominello, has encouraged his constituents to be against new development.

This is despite the fact that that half way through the 5 year targets for new homes set by the Greater Sydney Commission for Ryde of 7,600 homes the current numbers are about 10 percent above the half way point but the slowing housing market will mean it is unlikely the GSC target will be met.

We need greater government leadership on the creation of a new local character particularly in nominated Planned and Priority Precincts.

Communities need a clear message that in the areas nominated by the NSW Government for growth that the local character will change significantly.

Community input should them be about the quality of the new urban character and the mix of amenities.

The Urban Taskforce believes the NSW Government should amend it’s planning documents that focus on the preservation of local character in growth areas and replace with the creation of a future local character.

CHRIS JOHNSON is the Urban Taskforce CEO
 

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I don't have a problem with height and to be honest I find it bewildering why a lot of people find it so offensive. It's a bit rich to say it destroys the character of the area when many of the sites being redeveloped were formerly offices and warehouses, with little or no residential.

However, one thing that I do take exception to is the expectation by some developers that they can just ignore the current planning controls, which were initially agreed to and put in place after widespread community consultation. Play by the rules and stick to the height limits under the current zoning and there should be no problem. It's not as though some of these projects need additional height to make them viable. It's all about making super profits.

A similar situation has arisen in Epping. Under the current Priority Precinct policy, the maximum height for key sites in Epping is 22 storeys, which is more than enough to make development profitable. Now the Langston development has been approved for up to 29 storeys and proposed redevelopments of the Epping Hotel and Coles sites are seeking over 40 storeys, which is close to double the current limit. Parramatta Council has put them on hold for the moment. What's the point of setting height limits if they can so easily be ignored?
 

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Victor Dominello. Looks and sounds like a cross between a former Hurstville Ford dealer (cum property developer) and a member of the Lowy family - also developers.

Ironic in a certain way.
 

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Victor Dominello. Looks and sounds like a cross between a former Hurstville Ford dealer (cum property developer) and a member of the Lowy family - also developers.

Ironic in a certain way.
It's very ironic since Dominelli's former car yard now houses one of Hurstville's tallest buildings:

 
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