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Did she have an issue when Harry built his buildings on the waterfront contributing to what will create this ‘wall’, or is it a case of first in best dressed?
 

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That letter adds nothing and she appeals to a false authority (I.e. herself and partner as having 50 years experience etc). Her suspicious appeal, with which NathanDavid clearly communicate sympathy, is nothing more than a glib expression of self interest.
 

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Penelope and her husband were definitely flawed just like anyone else, and have definitely contributed to the wall of skyscrapers along the river yes, but in the realisation of this, perhaps over the years she has come to see this and wants to see a better and different Brisbane than the one she grew old in? Additionally, not everyone can give you such brisbane iconic skyscrapers like Riparian, say what you will about it but I think personally it had been Brisbane's most iconic scraper until slender apartments like Soleil and infinity were added to the city.
 

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Riparian is pants. Terrible car park frontage to the river.
 

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Riparian is pants. Terrible car park frontage to the river.
Call me what you want but the carpark never bothered me. In fact, I quite like it. Most of it is covered and in a strange way...the lower facade covering the car park kinda reminds me of the lower parts of the twin towers before they went to heaven, compliments of Allah. :LOL: :ROFLMAO:
 

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The main difference is that Harry's buildings take the form of building-in-plaza, with a tower placed in the centre of a plaza, thereby retaining a large view corridor to either side. Have a look at this siting plan of Riverside Centre which demonstrates exactly what I mean, with the tower in the middle and the surrounding retail/F&B sites surrounding it, which are 1-2 storey in height. Even today, Riverside Centre maintains a substantial separation corridor between it and 145 Eagle Street on one side, and a smaller but still reasonable separation on the other side (the original separation gap on this side was substantially lessened with the development of One One One Eagle Street).

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Similarly, Riparian was also designed with the same tower-in-plaza design, albeit slightly differently in that the building was located at the southern most point of the site, with the plaza orientated around the other three sides, adjoining the plaza of Riverside Centre. Again, the addition of One One One Eagle has reduced this corridor compared to the old Indigo Building.

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And even One One One Eagle, while reducing the separation corridors as previously mentioned, I feel has still attempted to emulate the tower-in-plaza concept as far as it was able to with the limitations associated with the site (it was built over Riverside Centre's loading dock and adjoining Riparian's carpark ramp which, IIRC, both influenced the tower's footprint). Like Riverside and Riparian, it is a podium-less tower that looks like it tries to respect the existing plaza it has been inserted into. Maybe a rounder footprint would have worked better,

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Now, as a reminder, this is what Waterfront Brisbane's footprint looks like - it's a slab-like footprint that stretches from one side of the ESP site to the other creating the impression of a wall across the site with just a 10m gap in the middle, retaining only a wide corridor on the Waterfront Place side by virtue of Waterfront Place itself being a tower-in-plaza design. In addition to that, Waterfront Brisbane also has a substantial podium area to the front of it, reducing useable plaza space directly to the front of the towers, and making it architecturally at odds with pretty well every other tower on Eagle Street.

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In other news, all the hoarding around Naldham House now has brand new advertising on it promoting the new Waterfront Place awning works. Also, a gantry between Eagle Street and Waterfront Place looks (and sounds) like it's being assembled this morning.
 

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The main difference is that Harry's buildings take the form of building-in-plaza, with a tower placed in the centre of a plaza, thereby retaining a large view corridor to either side.....
nailed it. i don't know what you do for work nathan, but you should really be involved in the property industry. you have a great understanding of it.
 

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Inside Eagle Street Pier’s luxury $2.1b makeover
Brisbane’s premier finance and dining precinct will receive a new lease on life with a $2.1 billion makeover.

Brisbane’s premier dining precinct will be adorned with hanging gardens, a sweeping promenade and enough open public space to fill a football field under a massive new development.

Brisbane City Council has approved the development plans for Waterfront Brisbane, a $2.1 billion makeover of the Eagle Street Pier and Waterfront Place precinct courtesy of Dexus group.

An artist’s impression of the river view of the new $2.1 billion Waterfront Brisbane


An artist’s impression of the river view of the new $2.1 billion Waterfront Brisbane
It follows council’s Waterfront Masterplan, which aims to develop the 1.2km of river frontage that stretches from the Botanic Gardens to Howard Smith wharves.

Dexus’ development includes a wider resurfaced river walk, new eateries and bars as well as some 9000sq m of public space.

Exclusive new photos of the sweeping development show two, 43 and 49-storey windowed skyscrapers towering over riverfront buildings adorned with hanging plants and rooftop gardens.

An artist’s impression of the riverwalk at the new $2.1 billion Waterfront Brisbane

An artist’s impression of the riverwalk at the new $2.1 billion Waterfront Brisbane
“As part of the approval, a new 280m river walk connecting Waterfront Place to the Riparian Plaza will be constructed, replacing the existing aged path,” Brisbane City Council’s city planning and economic development chair Krista Adams said.

Dexus chief investment officer Ross Du Vernet said “The project’s scale and central riverfront location will firmly establish Waterfront Brisbane as a world-class destination, and is set to reshape the daily experience of the many people who visit and work there.”

An artist’s impression of the Eagle St driveway of the new $2.1 billion Waterfront Brisbane

An artist’s impression of the Eagle St driveway of the new $2.1 billion Waterfront Brisbane
Waterfront Brisbane also features new linking passages that allow for cycle and wheelchair connections between Eagle Street and the river and includes the renovation of heritage listed Naldham House.

Eagle Street Pier restaurant precinct will continue to trade before closing to allow construction to begin.

The first tower is expected to be completed in 2026.

An artist’s impression of the riverwalk and retail precinct of the new $2.1 billion Waterfront Brisbane

An artist’s impression of the riverwalk and retail precinct of the new $2.1 billion Waterfront Brisbane
 

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The boardwalk doesn’t seem very wide in that image, especially if that is restaurant seating over the water which will generate a lot of cross traffic as well
 

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Agree 100%

If they are going to have a boardwalk that wide, they need to be looking at massive upgrades with onstreet cycle infrastructure.
 

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Waiters and waitresses will be running and dodging cyclists and pedestrians to get those tables. A new segregated two-way bike way should run along Queen Street and Eagle Street from Adelaide Street. At the end of the day the boardwalk should be public space not reserved for retail outlets.
 

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On the plus side, Brisbane has established new trial bike lanes through the CBD which should reduce the commuters cyclists requirement to use the waterfront, you will still have the recreational cyclists who want to ride with a view.
They do need to build on that further though, moving forward Brisbane needs to change it cycling strategy to using this actual streets instead of CBD waterfront as arterial routes, it‘s only going to get worse as developments increasingly engage with the water, like this project, Howard Smith Wharves and Queens Wharf.
 

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If they had a pedestrian and cycle bridge from the end of Methyr rd to Kangaroo point linking it up to the new bridge from KP to the city, would that further remove the need for commuter cyclists through this part of the waterfront?
 

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If they had a pedestrian and cycle bridge from the end of Methyr rd to Kangaroo point linking it up to the new bridge from KP to the city, would that further remove the need for commuter cyclists through this part of the waterfront?
I guess that would only filter cycle traffic going to that end of KP - probably a fairly small percentage. Most cycle traffic there is heading towards New Farm or possibly the Valley.
 
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