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Yes, it was used on liberal election posters way back when, hanging off of spencer st station
They were a little different, just using a generic train logo, see here: Airport rail begins here… well, eventually, maybe

The MARL logo I believe made its first appearance around 2018/9 with the most recent iteration of the project: https://railprojects.vic.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/378497/MAR0030-Project-Overview-Factsheet-June-2019-DRAFT-v2.pdf

It's very similar to the Regional Rail Revival logo and seems to be along the lines of the standard Labor government design/Rail Projects Victoria designs: Regional Rail Revival | Regional Rail Revival
 

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Anyone notice on the first link that heph posted above, on Daniel Bowen's blog - the budget paper screener, that the budget for MARL back under the Ballieu/Napthine government was surprisingly similar to the amount of cash Feds and State have promised?

8.5 bil to 11bil way back when versus 5bil + 5bil = 10bil now. Funny that.
 

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This is just an example, showing how nothing is absolutely confirmed for the western alignment for suburban rail loop, it may share some of the Airport alignment but could have a diversion. Just a concept, not realistic at all, just thought the green SRL could serve the High-point area, while the Airport rail link could use the Albion route. But it does fix the kink at Sunshine issue.

SRL: Wyndham Vale - Tarneit - Sunshine - Maribyrnong - Airport - Broadmeadows - etc.
Airport rail link: Southern cross - Sunshine - Airport or Southern cross - Newport - Sunshine - Airport depending on the alignment chosen.

I really like this idea!
 

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Often wondered why they haven't thought about routing the SLR through to Watergardens, Caroline Springs and directly down south to the RRL alignment to Terminate at Werribee. Doesn't go through Sunshine, but links up Caroline Springs a bit better with the area and perhaps even help Werribee establish itself as a regional activity hub. At the moment, getting out of those suburbs is atrocious, so something kind of need to be done with that.

I guess it was considered and they found the tunneling cost non-viable for this part of the suburban loop.
 

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Isn't the OMR meant to have a a rail corridor as well? Perhaps the idea is to keep the SRL closer to Sunshine and the OMR will connect the areas further out like Sydenham and Caroline Springs.
 

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Often wondered why they haven't thought about routing the SLR through to Watergardens, Caroline Springs and directly down south to the RRL alignment to Terminate at Werribee. Doesn't go through Sunshine, but links up Caroline Springs a bit better with the area and perhaps even help Werribee establish itself as a regional activity hub. At the moment, getting out of those suburbs is atrocious, so something kind of need to be done with that.

I guess it was considered and they found the tunneling cost non-viable for this part of the suburban loop.
Those were exactly my thoughts too. Makes it more of a loop out west which connects the outer regions.

IMHO it's all about marginal seats and keeping costs to a mininum. It's a shame too, because the west defiantly needs it, especially before the infill happens (which it is quickly).
 

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From Melbourne Airport you'd be paying for a lot of extra tunnelling under the airport to account for the third and fourth runways, leaving very little room to get above ground and elevate for a long bridge over Jacksons Creek. This gets in the way of the future western entrance to the airport coming from Kings Road, and you still have to tunnel under Sydenham/Taylors Hill, while removing the regional interchange aspect of Sunshine. OMR is supposed to be a freight route only, if it's ever used for anything for passenger service I would think it'd be to create a branch from Rockbank towards Toolern Vale or Balliang in the unlikely chance that suburbia reaches that far out. We should be protecting radial BRT/light rail routes in the west and provide better regular feeder bus routes instead of planning for another orbital rail ring.
 

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Often wondered why they haven't thought about routing the SLR through to Watergardens, Caroline Springs and directly down south to the RRL alignment to Terminate at Werribee. Doesn't go through Sunshine, but links up Caroline Springs a bit better with the area and perhaps even help Werribee establish itself as a regional activity hub. At the moment, getting out of those suburbs is atrocious, so something kind of need to be done with that.

I guess it was considered and they found the tunneling cost non-viable for this part of the suburban loop.
I get what you're saying but to make it even tighter - that is with as little new infrastructure built but maximising the re-use of existing rail corridors, MARL and the SRL could rebuild Albion station to have a T set up (Sunbury/Watergardens line rebuilt on same SE to NW direction and the SRL underground connecting to the new surface station running NE to SW with a ~1km tunnel from the Albion corridor down to the RRL/Melton corridor to the west of Ardeer.

But that's a scenario where SRL is one technology and one single-seat journey for the entire route, if this 100% must happen (for X Y Z reason) then allowing Watergardens line to change at Albion for Airport or Werribee services does pretty much what you said, except it'll be far less "new" build of tunnel/station.

But if we don't "need" SRL to be one giant long single-seat line then we just accept there'll be multiple journeys.

The Airport is a lot closer to the western suburbs (obviously) than the East or South, using a patchwork of services which suit the specific region's needs is probably a better way to go. Basically very few people will have single-seat journeys to the airport, the majority will be two seat journeys (i.e they're local station and its line to the connection point either to the SRL, MARL at Sunshine or Wyndham Vale Line then out to the airport).

MARL - whether it's tunneled from the city to Sunshine or uses MM1/exsiting tracks, between Sunshine and the airport does the same job regardless and as the government says, it'll be one phase of the SRL.

The Sunshine to Werribee sector can just be the long awaited metrofication/possible quadruplication of Wyndham Vale.

Basically patchwork: different pressures will ensure more gets built quicker. "Waiting" to phase SRL as long one line: gets things done a lot slower.

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The Age:

Federal Nationals MP Damian Drum is pushing the Morrison government to force Victoria to build a rail tunnel into the Melbourne CBD as part of an airport link, saying it would be "short sighted" not to build a tunnel as proposed by a superannuation consortium.

The Victorian and federal governments are likely to reject the multibillion-dollar proposal to build the link using a tunnel between Sunshine and the city in favour of a cheaper option using existing rail lines. The proposal from the AirRail consortium is being led by IFM Investors, which offered $7 billion as part of its proposal. The federal and state governments are funding $5 billion each for the airport rail project.

"I think it's ideology on [the Victorian government's] behalf," Mr Drum said, referring to the choice not to favour a tunnel built by the private consortium.

"I am still working as hard as I can to get the federal government to force the Victorian government into building a designated rail tunnel into the CBD," he said.

After discussions with IFM Investors and rail think-tank Rail Futures Institute, the member for Nicholls said he believed turning away from the tunnel would disadvantage those in Shepparton, Wangaratta and Albury/Wodonga and limit growth in Ballarat and Bendigo.

He criticised options without a tunnel as "short sighted" and said they were likely to "seriously damage" the services available for those in the west.

While Victorian government sources said the state wanted greater control of an airport link that involved the suburban rail network connecting up with the existing Metro Tunnel, IFM claims it has written to the Victorian government to provide a guarantee state authorities would have control.

Mr Drum is particularly concerned servicing the lines across Sunbury, Melton, Dandenong and Cranbourne/Pakenham would already use the full capacity of the Metro Tunnel when construction completes and, if this first stage of tunnels was used as part of the airport link, services to the western suburbs would be significantly affected. A decision is yet to be announced by the state and federal governments.

A Victorian government spokeswoman said the state was working well with the federal government in reaching a solution on airport rail.

"We continue to work collaboratively with the Commonwealth government on airport rail options - and we have no announcements to make."

IFM Investors manages about $70 billion in infrastructure out of a total $150 billion funds under management on behalf of more than 20 super funds and has plans to spend $25 billion on infrastructure over the next 10 years.

Infrastructure development is at the heart of the federal government's post-coronavirus economic recovery strategy. Prime Minister Scott Morrison has vowed to slash approval times by 25 per cent to fast-track billions of dollars of infrastructure work, across mining expansions, roads and rail. Treasurer Josh Frydenberg recently said he wants super funds to invest more in infrastructure in a bid to boost activity and employment.

The AirRail consortium estimates that building the tunnel option would create 13,000 jobs.
 

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Damian Drum who? Oh yes the failed AFL Fremantle coach!
He should be very careful trying to "force" Daniel Andrews to do anything maybe he should be asking Morrison for a fairer share of Federal infrastructure spend something like what NSW and QLD are receiving!
Esp NSW who are getting a new airport and train line worth about $80 billion at least from Federal funds
 

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Damian Drum who? Oh yes the failed AFL Fremantle coach!
He should be very careful trying to "force" Daniel Andrews to do anything maybe he should be asking Morrison for a fairer share of Federal infrastructure spend something like what NSW and QLD are receiving!
Esp NSW who are getting a new airport and train line worth about $80 billion at least from Federal funds
Dreaming. The airport is c$5 billion and the train line less than that. And the Feds will get all their money back and more in about 20 years when they sell the airport for much more, having taken the commercial risk that no private sector player was prepared to.
 

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Dreaming. The airport is c$5 billion and the train line less than that. And the Feds will get all their money back and more in about 20 years when they sell the airport for much more, having taken the commercial risk that no private sector player was prepared to.
"Go for it" has been called out on this claimed figure before, yet still persists with it.
I don't know why when the facts have been presented.
 

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Ex-premiers call for fast, direct airport rail route
Timna Jacks
By Timna Jacks
June 30, 2020 — 11.50pm

  • Former premiers have called for a fast, express rail link to the airport, warning that a slow, stopping-all-stations service will simply not be used.
Jeff Kennett and Ted Baillieu have told The Age that high costs and a lack of demand had delayed airport rail in recent decades, but they believe now is the right time to send trains express to Tullamarine.
Steve Bracks backs airport rail, saying it would deliver a boost to the regions, but would not specify which design would be best for the link.
 

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Can someone just post where all the boreholes for the Airport rail link? All the news about the Airport rail link is just speculation this and that. I wanna see the real data and the engineering behind the Airport rail link. Does anyone here have any involvement with the Airport rail link project?
 

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Can someone just post where all the boreholes for the Airport rail link? All the news about the Airport rail link is just speculation this and that. I wanna see the real data and the engineering behind the Airport rail link. Does anyone here have any involvement with the Airport rail link project?
If they do they will be subject to an NDA. So don't expect any leaks on here.
 
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