The drilling would commence from The Bays, with only the TBM head retrieval at the city end, so just the equivalent space needed as at Blues Point.They will probably be using zetland or somewhere else in that area as to where the TBM's start drilling, not the domain or hyde park.
Same thing with why Artarmon Industrial Area missed out on a station on Metro City&SW. You can't convert all industrial areas into residential. You need local industry like smash repairers, couriers, Bunnings and such. If Artarmon had been converted there would be no industrial land in the entire North Shore essentially...There's huge tracts of land around WSA that are going to be zoned industrial, so I doubt there's really any dire shortage of it. And it's ridiculous to have large areas of low-density industrial land on top of a high-capacity metro system. You could probably house a couple of hundred thousand people in the Silverwater/Camellia area with a couple of metro stations anchoring high-density development, and these people would have quick commutes to both the Parramatta and Sydney CBDs (<10 and <20 minutes respectively). With value capture the construction of these stations could essentially be revenue-neutral, if not actually profitable.
Instead those people are going to have be housed on the periphery of the metro area, meaning they will have to put up with >60-minute commutes. For the sake of retaining light industry, I don't really think it's a beneficial trade-off.
If you do want industrial areas in the inner city, I would suggest it would be better to look into densifying their land use. There's no reason why warehouses have to be these sprawling, land-intensive single-story complexes.
Artarmon South was also a dumb decision. You don't have to get rid of all the industrial area, but set aside a chunk of it in the immediate vicinity of the station for high-density development. You can have more mixing between uses rather than large industrial-only zones.Same thing with why Artarmon Industrial Area missed out on a station on Metro City&SW. You can't convert all industrial areas into residential. You need local industry like smash repairers, couriers, Bunnings and such. If Artarmon had been converted there would be no industrial land in the entire North Shore essentially...
Now I maybe could get on board a mixed use centre east of Silverwater Road, leaving the western portion industrial. But high density is crumbling ticky tacky crap in this country anyway and all of it should be halted until higher standards are legislated.
You're one of those people that build a a purely high rise city with no industrial zoned land on Simcity aren't you 😄Artarmon South was also a dumb decision. You don't have to get rid of all the industrial area, but set aside a chunk of it in the immediate vicinity of the station for high-density development. You can have more mixing between uses rather than large industrial-only zones.
By the way, the north shore has extensive industrial areas in Brookvale, Manly Vale, Castle Cove, Lane Cove West and Frenchs Forest, so Artarmon would not have been a huge loss anyway..
High (or medium-high) density doesn't have to be cheap garbage, and that shouldn't be used as an excuse to forego otherwise viable developments, which means that the people who would otherwise be housed there instead will be moving into McMansions 60km away from the city.
I’ve alway found it weird that suburbs nowhere near the physical “shore” are regarded as “North Shore”Also three of those areas are Northern Beaches, not North Shore. And the rest are tiny by comparison to Artarmon xx
Yep. And if you use Google Maps and zoom in on Artarmon and Silverwater you can see how many business 'labels' pop up. Its very high density. Not low-density at all df1 is saying. The land around WSA is massive sprawling logistics warehouses. Not comparable to fine grain garages and small suites and industrial estates.Much of the 'industrial' land in Artarmon South is actually retail and office space.
Its historical. Some locals may be able to confirm but my understanding from piecing bits together from friends and a relative from the area is that the "North Shore" was named after the area north of the Lane Cove river where they would take boats as far as as they could to harvest the huge old trees for their timbers. That was formalised when they built the "North Shore" rail line through the suburbs up through Killara to Wahroonga (as far as they used to go to harvest timbers via the river). By default Waitara became part of the "North Shore" but Hornsby (originally Pearces corner) is not technically meant to be the North Shore nor are suburbs like Westleigh or Normanhurst, all part of the Northern line.Thats more locals and real estate agents trying to make these suburbs more exclusive.I’ve alway found it weird that suburbs nowhere near the physical “shore” are regarded as “North Shore”
Whereas those suburbs on the actual shoreline of the sea aren’t regarded as “North Shore”, no they’re in the “Northern Beaches”.