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Back in 1936 Tel Aviv held "East Fairs" (Levant fair) which were large international expos
attended by over half a million visitors.

this was the lebanese pavilion

but - the lebanese pavilion had a different flag than today - looks like the canadian one, maybe under french influence - so when did the design change and who knows why?



 
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oh yeah, I thought it was red white red, hard to tell in b/w
 
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Beirut! said:
^^ That is the flag under the French madate. It is exactly like the flag of France but with a Cedar in the center.

I believe it changed when Lebanon became independent.

well, if you dont know .. Lebanon still under French madate :D .. Syria try to protect you but u guys not worth it...ehehhe
 
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So like before 1948, was the region which the state of Israel occupies today commonly reffered to as Palestine, and Israel or Eretz Israel was just a constituent or a small part of the Palestine region..?!?*

*(Speculation from the postcard... I'm curious!) :tongue2:
 
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BinALAin said:
well, if you dont know .. Lebanon still under French mandate :D .. Syria try to protect you but u guys not worth it...ehehhe

You should be banned for all the hateful things you say.


And I would rather be under the French than be under the Ottomans or Syrians! But I don't want to get into politics but if you really think that Syria "tried to protect" us you are one sick individual, may God help you...
 
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B-Patriot said:
So like before 1948, was the region which the state of Israel occupies today commonly reffered to as Palestine, and Israel or Eretz Israel was just a constituent or a small part of the Palestine region..?!?*

*(Speculation from the postcard... I'm curious!) :tongue2:
palestine was the name given by colonialists (american and british) who
falsly identified arabs living here as the ancient philistines, a sea-trading people originating from crete who brought with them metal work and who lived along the gaza coast.

So until 1948 - All people - jews, arabs and christians where therefore under British Mandate known as palestinians living in Palestine. The name "Eretz Israel" (land of Israel) is the jewish name for any land which was part of the kingdom of Israel (and Judeah) after the last exile of jews and fall of the hashmonite kingdom. It reffers exactly to what is Israel today + large parts of east jordan, which we gave up in 1948 to be transjordan, later jordan, later hashemite kingdom. it is still questionable if gaza was ever part of the biblical kingdom of israel, but jews saw gaza as the second holiest city if jerusalem cannot be reached, and so after the middle ages (16-18th century, the jews
of gaza were a large well known community welcoming jewish pilgrims, especially from egypt and europe).

During the mandate the arab hamulas saw the nationalist movements around them (mainly egypt and jews returning to their homeland) and started
to invent for themselves a separate history and indentity so that they could demand that the British drive out jews, using the european term "palestine"
giving it an arabic sound "falestin" because they had trouble in arabic saying the english "P" (made it sound like balestine) so - it was probably invented by the mufti families nashashibi and huseini in the 1930's).

After 1948, palestinians and palestine were further invented by arabs as a separate entity, although until this political magic trick, all arabs in israel were always reffered as syrian, and being part of "greater syria" (following the ottoman administrative invention of the province of "greater syria").

Some palestinian "intellectuals" tried to prove that they were ancient canaanite and philistine tribes. two problems: all these tribes were and remained idol worshipers, and in all their recorded histories, both the babylonians, persians and romans brought in syrian foreigners to prevent jews from returning to their cities.
 
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OK Ban him Ban this ALain guy. That was just plain rudeness.
 
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source26 said:
palestine was the name given by colonialists (american and british) who
falsly identified arabs living here as the ancient philistines, a sea-trading people originating from crete who brought with them metal work and who lived along the gaza coast.

So until 1948 - All people - jews, arabs and christians where therefore under British Mandate known as palestinians living in Palestine. The name "Eretz Israel" (land of Israel) is the jewish name for any land which was part of the kingdom of Israel (and Judeah) after the last exile of jews and fall of the hashmonite kingdom. It reffers exactly to what is Israel today + large parts of east jordan, which we gave up in 1948 to be transjordan, later jordan, later hashemite kingdom. it is still questionable if gaza was ever part of the biblical kingdom of israel, but jews saw gaza as the second holiest city if jerusalem cannot be reached, and so after the middle ages (16-18th century, the jews
of gaza were a large well known community welcoming jewish pilgrims, especially from egypt and europe).

During the mandate the arab hamulas saw the nationalist movements around them (mainly egypt and jews returning to their homeland) and started
to invent for themselves a separate history and indentity so that they could demand that the British drive out jews, using the european term "palestine"
giving it an arabic sound "falestin" because they had trouble in arabic saying the english "P" (made it sound like balestine) so - it was probably invented by the mufti families nashashibi and huseini in the 1930's).

After 1948, palestinians and palestine were further invented by arabs as a separate entity, although until this political magic trick, all arabs in israel were always reffered as syrian, and being part of "greater syria" (following the ottoman administrative invention of the province of "greater syria").

Some palestinian "intellectuals" tried to prove that they were ancient canaanite and philistine tribes. two problems: all these tribes were and remained idol worshipers, and in all their recorded histories, both the babylonians, persians and romans brought in syrian foreigners to prevent jews from returning to their cities.
Originally though, the name Syria-Palestina was given to the area by the Romans after the failure of the Bar Cochva revolt. They changed it from "Judea" as a punishment to the Jews. I think this is the origin of the British decision to call the mandate "Palestine". Eretz Israel was an official name too, but only in Hebrew script.
 
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yes, the romans are to blame.. but in modern times the british are for using this term from the start.

from encyclopedia Britannica:
http://wwwa.britannica.com/eb/article-45059

History > Roman Palestine
After the destruction of Jerusalem, a legion (X Fretensis) was stationed on the site, and the rank of the provincial governor was raised from procurator to legatus Augusti, signifying a change from equestrian to senatorial rank. Caesarea Maritima, the governor's residence, became a Roman colony, and, as a reward for the loyalty of the Greeks in the revolt, a new pagan city, Neapolis (modern Nabulus in the West Bank), was founded at Shechem, the religious centre of the Samaritans.

The Jews, deprived of the Temple, founded a new religious centre in the rabbinical school of Jamnia (Jabneh). When a revolt broke out in AD 115, the Roman emperor Trajan appointed the first consular legate of Judaea, Lucius Quietus, to suppress it. The rank of the legate confirms that two legions were stationed in Judaea, one at Jerusalem, the other at Caparcotna in Galilee, and thenceforth the province must have held consular status.

In 132 the emperor Hadrian decided to build a Roman colony, Aelia Capitolina, on the site of Jerusalem. The announcement of his plan, as well as his ban on circumcision (revoked later, but only for the Jews), provoked a much more serious uprising, the Second Jewish Revolt, led by Bar Kokhba. It was ruthlessly repressed by Julius Severus; according to certain accounts, almost 1,000 villages were destroyed and more than half a million people killed. In Judaea proper the Jews seem to have been virtually exterminated, but they survived in Galilee, which, like Samaria, appears to have held aloof from the revolt. Tiberias in Galilee became the seat of the Jewish patriarchs. The province of Judaea was renamed Syria Palaestina (later simply called Palaestina), and, according to Eusebius of Caeseria (Ecclesiastical History, Book IV, chapter 6), no Jew was thenceforth allowed to set foot in Jerusalem or the surrounding district.

This prohibition apparently was relaxed sometime later to permit Jews to enter Jerusalem one day a year, on a day of mourning called Tisha be-Ava. Although this ban was officially still in force as late as the 4th century AD, there is some evidence that from the Severan period onward (after 193) Jews visited the city more frequently, especially at certain festival times, and even that there may have been some Jews in residence. About the time the Bar Kokhba revolt was crushed (135), Hadrian proceeded to convert Jerusalem into a Greco-Roman city, with a circus, an amphitheatre, baths, and a theatre and with streets conforming to the Roman grid pattern. He also erected temples dedicated to Jupiter and himself (Aelia was his clan name) on the very site of the destroyed Temple of Jerusalem. To repopulate the city, Hadrian apparently brought in Greco-Syrians from the surrounding areas and even perhaps some legionary veterans.

The urbanization and Hellenization of Palestine was continued during the reign of the emperor Septimius Severus (AD 193–211), except in Galilee, where the Jewish presence remained strong
 
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#26 ·
alright, why them lebanese girls look so damn fine? j/k although its true

So Lebanons got a good football team compared to other Arab countries. But by world standards and even by Asian standards they dont measure up. Whats the deal? Is their not enough facilities or is the sport not that popular over their or what?

p.s. I look forward to playing yall in the Asian Cup this year..
 
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