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Rank these countries according to their economical and political power:

South Korea 48 million
Ukraine 47 million
South Africa 44 million
Colombia 43 million
Spain 40 million
Argentina 40 million
Poland 39 million
Canada 33 million

Pick the most important country in the poll.
 

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Well economicly Canada then south Korea and Spain are definitly first, but they don't have much political power, especially south Korea, since it is traped between two asian giants

South africa may not be the first economicly, but it sure has an important political power in the region.

Ukraine is economicly behind poland, and is also next to a giant, even if we all know about the recent political changes over there

So I'll vote for Canada, but Spain comes as a close second
 

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Spain is overrated in economy because Euro is overrrated(40% increase in the last
4 years! NOT because Europe/Spain became more competitive)...
S. Korean currency is finally recovering from the 1997 economic crisis.. and returning
slowly to pre-1997 rate.
It is entirely possible(and probable) that within 2~3 years, S.Korea surpasses Canada and Spain
in the nominal GDP.

Anyway, beside S. Korea is already the n#1 in the list in the:
+industrial output: heavy and light industries=> shipbuilding, steel,automobile, construction, machinary, electronics, petro-chemical, electromechanics, etc, etc.
(remember Canada = timber, oil, gas and Spain = tourism and light manufacturing)
+technology: Semiconductors, Communication devices, componets, displays, biotechnology, etc,etc
+military: top 5 army and top 10 navy/air force. 20+Billion/year budget.
+cultural influence on the region.
 

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Based on economic size in 2005, it would seem that Canada would be first, followed by Spain and then S Korea. No one knows what will happen to currency values over the next few years, so trying to predict is just wishfull thinking. One other thing going for Spain is their heavy investment in Latin America. It's becoming almost like their backyard.

Culturally, I'd say Spain is first (a lot of the most avante guard architecture, cuisine and fashion is coming from there now). And let's not forget that something like 300 million people in Latin America are Spanish speaking, so are therefore heavily exposed to Spanish literature, music, art, film and Spanish culture in general. 2nd would probably be S Korea, who's soaps, movies and music are popular in some Asian countries. 3rd would be Canada. Another potential country would be South Africa, which has tremendous cultural (and business) influence in Africa.

Politically, Spain is an important member of the EU, one of the most important organizations in the world. Poland is as well. South Africa is VERY important in Africa. And South Africa might even get a permanent seat on the UN Security Council. Canada is totally overshadowed by the US. S Korea is totally overshadowed by China and Japan.

Now if you increase the population limit to 65 million, all the countries on this list would be DESTROYED by France and the UK.
 

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Look said:
South Korea 48 million
Ukraine 47 million
South Africa 44 million
Colombia 43 million
Spain 40 million
Argentina 40 million
Poland 39 million
Canada 33 million
Are they only countries with population between 30~50 mil?
 

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brooklynprospect said:
Based on economic size in 2005, it would seem that Canada would be first, followed by Spain and then S Korea. No one knows what will happen to currency values over the next few years, so trying to predict is just wishfull thinking. One other thing going for Spain is their heavy investment in Latin America. It's becoming almost like their backyard.

Culturally, I'd say Spain is first (a lot of the most avante guard architecture, cuisine and fashion is coming from there now). And let's not forget that something like 300 million people in Latin America are Spanish speaking, so are therefore heavily exposed to Spanish literature, music, art, film and Spanish culture in general. 2nd would probably be S Korea, who's soaps, movies and music are popular in some Asian countries. 3rd would be Canada. Another potential country would be South Africa, which has tremendous cultural (and business) influence in Africa.

Politically, Spain is an important member of the EU, one of the most important organizations in the world. Poland is as well. South Africa is VERY important in Africa. And South Africa might even get a permanent seat on the UN Security Council. Canada is totally overshadowed by the US. S Korea is totally overshadowed by China and Japan.

Now if you increase the population limit to 65 million, all the countries on this list would be DESTROYED by France and the UK.
For once, there is some truth in this post... Spain has Latin America to
invest but S. Korea has been the N2 investor (after Taiwan) in China
which is far/far more interesting market than LAtin America... not only that
S. Korea is investing in ASEAN countries, now in India, Russia, Eastern
Europe, Mexico, etc... that is around the globe....

Again, the apparent larger GDP of Spain is just a mirage.... look at their
shipbuilding industry... IT COLLAPSED.. and has been accusing Korea of
`unfair' practices and took the case over WTO... but guess what.. they
LOST the case... This is just one example of Spain's industry losing
competitive edge due to fictitiously expensive currency...
Just name a sector that Spain is more advanced than Korea... maybe
some service... tourism.... arts... or many some financeial sectors... but
that is pretty much it....
 

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Locust said:
For once, there is some truth in this post... Spain has Latin America to
invest but S. Korea has been the N2 investor (after Taiwan) in China
which is far/far more interesting market than LAtin America... not only that
S. Korea is investing in ASEAN countries, now in India, Russia, Eastern
Europe, Mexico, etc... that is around the globe....

Again, the apparent larger GDP of Spain is just a mirage.... look at their
shipbuilding industry... IT COLLAPSED.. and has been accusing Korea of
`unfair' practices and took the case over WTO... but guess what.. they
LOST the case... This is just one example of Spain's industry losing
competitive edge due to fictitiously expensive currency...
Just name a sector that Spain is more advanced than Korea... maybe
some service... tourism.... arts... or many some financeial sectors... but
that is pretty much it....
Well I agree that living life in NY, it would definitely seem like Korea has the stronger economy. I see Samsung and LG phones, Hyundai cars. But I hardly see anything from Spain. Yet somehow they produce goods and services with a total value greater than that produced by Korea. All because I don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The Euro and won (korean currency?) are freely convertible. If Spain was just producing crap and losing all their industries, its economy would not be one of the fastest growing in Europe.
 

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PLEASE, Name a SINGLE product from Spain... with greater added value than S. Koreans... NAME IT !!!! Don't say something because you have a pre-judgement of it... just remember.. Korea 30 years ago.. was really crappy... but the reality changes faster than your perception of it...


You can not name... because there is hardly any product of Spain... that is competitive and ADVANCED enough to sell here in the US....

Now... go back to sleep... it's not good for kid to stay awake past midnight :)
 

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Locust said:
PLEASE, Name a SINGLE product from Spain... with greater added value than S. Koreans...
Who cares about a single product? Again, if Spain only produces crap, why are they one of the fastest growing countries in the EU? Are they rapidly increasing their production of crap?

Why wouldn't German, French, Dutch, Swedish and British products put the Spanish crap out of business? The EU is a free market, after all.
 

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What I am saying is that their industrial sector has lost competivity and it is in the process of being empied from inside out....

The GDP is large because they have larger `service' sector....
Look.. if a lawyer charges 5000 instead of 500, it `adds' 4500 more to the GDP...
get it?
I do not have growth figure of Spain.. but other EU members suffer from flat(almost zero) growth rate...." In the land of the blind men a single eyed guy can be the king"
-kind of situtation... Even with 3% growth rate... Spain could be one of the `fastest' growing EU member..
 

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South Korea. Not because I am korean, but because it really does have the brightest future. Many agree that the chinese economic growth will strengthen korea's growth rate. For s. korea, China is not only a market to invest. Korea and China are inevitable strategic ally for the future of east asia. I know that there will be some comments down there that s. korea is a useless country and china only needs japan and stuff like that. Well, good luck on that:)
 

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Canada or S.Korea
 
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