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Recent trip to Chicago: Observations and Diversions

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My fiancee and I had a great time in your fair city over the weekend and while we didn't get as much time in the city as we'd hoped (family obligations in the 'burbs), we did paint the town red on Friday and Saturday.

DAY 1:
Arrived in Chicago on Thursday night, met my friend in West Town, where we stayed. Went to dinner at Sultan's Market on North & Damen. Upon exiting, I noticed an atrocious development-- the Shiphouse-- a condo building that looks like a cruise ship. It was so ugly, it looked like a beached whale. I think Chicago has some best infill I've ever seen but it also has some of the worst. The Ship House is the latter. What made it so bad is that it overshadowed a beautiful old mansion that sat next to it. Dinner was great though, and I love Sultan's concept.

After dinner we met another good friend of mine at his apartment in Lakeview. What a beautiful neighborhood, it looks better and better each time I go back. Hung out there, drank some cognac and reminisced a little. Then it was on to Carol's for Caroloke. Carol's is a country/western bar in Ravenswood (I absolutely hate country, my friend dragged us there to meet some people he knew). We were like fish out of water. The bouncer was this hardcore cowboy from Joliet who looked like a Hell's Angel. We got even more drunk and sang some Caroloke, but I got boo'd off the stage for choosing a Bee Gee's song. Went home and crashed after that.

DAY 2:
My girl and I checked out the Body Worlds exhibit at the Museum of Science & Industry and LOVED IT. What an amazing museum that is. I haden't been there since I was in junior high, so I appreciated it much more this time. I highly recommend it to anyone who hasn't been yet. And of course Hyde Park continues to kick ass.

Later went to Lincolnshire to kibbitz with some of my cousins, then came back to West Town and tried lunch at Padlanka's, a godforsaken Polish restaurant that made us both sick. Authentic atmosphere though. Took a nap then went to Atomix for some java (stole a mug from there). Ate mediocre pizza at Pequod's then met some friends at Ten Cat. Off to bed.

DAY 3:
Went for breakfast at Victory's Banner in Roscoe Village-- great place. Girl and I went to meet my Aunt and Uncle in Buffalo Grove, then came back to the city and took the El to Chinatown for dim sum (yum). My friend met us there and then we drove all over the South Side. It is absolutely amazing what is going on down there even since the last time I vistited. The projects are across the street from expensive condos. Very interesting contrast. I'm so glad they're saving those monolithic circular highrises near Chinatown. We drove through an interesting development near Bridgeport-- a wholesale market that was being converted to condos. Very, very cool indeed. It was also cool to see the city decked out for St. Patty's Day. Later on we went to my friends office in the West Loop and played ping-pong and watched videos of the shows he edits for WTTW.

That night we had sushi at Hama Matsu in Andersonville-- deeeeeelicious. Ate myself sick. Met some more friends at the Hungry Brain and then at Millie's in Roscoe Village. Got extremely drunk.

DAY 4:
Woke up and met my mom's entire side of the family for brunch in Skokie. Enough lox to turn me into a salmon. Got gas and a car wash and headed back to STL. It was a fantastic weekend.

Observations:

Chicago is as vibrant as ever. There are always new developments going on. It is a city that doesn't talk, it actually acts. If a sign is posted announcing a new development, there is earthmoving equipment on the site the next day. That is impressive. It is so amazing to see the amount of infill, especially on the North Side. There are some 'hoods that look like they've been rebuilt from scratch (these are old 'hoods too). Unreal. I only hope Chicago doesn't compromise its high architectural standards to put up just anything. I noticed more really bad urban design than I remember from last time I was there. At any rate, most cities would die for a tiny fraction of the great infill there. I am sad about the CTA's financial woes, but it's happening everywhere, not just Chicago. Hang in there.

There are so many fucking young people in Chicago. It was very noticeable this time. But I think a lot of them are so into being hipsters that they're not really hip anymore. I saw a lot of those trucker caps, torn jeans and cardigan sweaters-- a bit contrived. But tons o' young people everywhere, which is awesome.

I do not see much integration for a city of Chicago's calibur, especially between blacks and whites. Most of the places I went were overwhelmingly white. The South Side mixes the races better; the popular North Side 'hoods need work. I see more integration in St. Louis, to be honest. There is certainly a big ethnic presence in Chicago, which adds a lot of great flavor. I love all the taquerias and Polish joints that are open all night.

All in all, it was so much fun. I always have fun there. Sorry, no pics because I wanted to absorb as much of my trip as possible without being distracted.
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DAY 4:
Woke up and met my mom's entire side of the family for brunch in Skokie. Enough lox to turn me into a salmon. Got gas and a car wash and headed back to STL. It was a fantastic weekend.



All in all, it was so much fun. I always have fun there. Sorry, no pics because I wanted to absorb as much of my trip as possible without being distracted.

I'm glad you had a good time in our city.
BTW, Day #4 in Skokie, by any chance did you have brunch at either Jack's on Touhy, or Barnen' Bagel on Skokie Blvd.? I have relatives all over Skokie.
^Actually ate at my aunt's house in Skokie, but I've been to Barnum & Bagle a number of times.
Skokie is such an interesting place, it was once heavily Jewish (when I was a kid about 25 years ago), now it's a true melting pot, plus it has pretty good mass transit into the city. I used to take the Skokie swift up to Dempster to visit my cousins all the time.
"The South Side mixes the races better; the popular North Side 'hoods need work."

That's not actually accurate; you just didn't go to the neighborhoods that are all black, which are all on the South and West sides. The most diverse neighborhoods in the city are right around the Loop and then in Uptown, Ravenswood and Rogers Park on the North Side.
I didn't think that "Ship house" development in Wicker Park was that bad, although I saw it only at night.
I don't doubt for a second that there are areas that are completely integrated and I know I didn't experience all that Chicago has to offer. These were just my perceptions based on this particular weekend.
^ Yeah, it's understandable that you could get that. Even in neighborhoods that are integrated--Edgewater is better than most--the social scenes are generally segregated. The yuppie neighborhoods along the lake closer to downtown are sometimes stiflingly monochromatic.

I don't know where you've been in Chicago on previous trips, but I would strongly encourage you to go to Devon Avenue west of Ridge (Indian, Pakistani, Afghani, Russian, Jewish) and Lawrence Avenue around Kimball (Latino, Arab, Korean) for some of the best multicultural commercial streets in the city. One of my favorite pieces of Americana ever is an Italian restaurant just off of Devon whose main sign is in Arabic script--right down the block from Gandhi Electronics, over whose entrance is a sign that says "Mowimy po polsku" ("We speak Polish").
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JivecitySTL said:
The South Side mixes the races better; the popular North Side 'hoods need work.
Actually some of the most segregated neigborhoods in Chicago are 95% African American and located on the West and South Side.

As long as there is no overt or covert attempt by goverment or business to segregate people...then it is fine. Gives us the outstanding fantastic ethically intese neighborhoods we have in Chicago. Chicago is so lucky to have escaped the attempt at being a melting pot and making everyone the same.

Got to work on some social and economical injustices...but that is for the country as a whole too.
^Dig.
Nice to hear you had a good time. . . I agree with your "hipster" observation. . . I think it's a fad that will fade in time. . . it's that dishoveled preppie look and just plain silly. . . yeah and trucker hats. . . I always figured they were just runaways from Indiana or Kentucky. . .

But more importantly. . . why don't you ever hook up with us when you come into town. . . maybe you're too high and mighty to sit down and have a beer with us blue-collar slobs :)
No way, actually I really wanted to meet up with you guys (started a thread on it actually), and I was intending to go and not tell my Chicago family that I was in town so I wouldn't be obligated to see them. But of course my Jewish mother leaked my secret and I felt like a dick if I didn't kibbitz with them a little bit. Then I had other friends I really had to see there, so time flew by a lot faster than I'd hoped. But I did talk to goonsta on the phone while I was there.

I'm in Chicago pretty often, so definitely next time. I'd love to meet all you guys.
chicagogeorge said:
DAY 4:
Woke up and met my mom's entire side of the family for brunch in Skokie. Enough lox to turn me into a salmon. Got gas and a car wash and headed back to STL. It was a fantastic weekend.

All in all, it was so much fun. I always have fun there. Sorry, no pics because I wanted to absorb as much of my trip as possible without being distracted.

I'm glad you had a good time in our city.
BTW, Day #4 in Skokie, by any chance did you have brunch at either Jack's on Touhy, or Barnen' Bagel on Skokie Blvd.? I have relatives all over Skokie.

I love Barnum & Bagel. Whenever I visit my grandparents, we goto Church at St. Lamberts and then head there for lunch. Great soup. Skokie is a cool town. A little old fashioned, very ethnic with its huge Jewish population and an increasingly higher number of Phillipino/Pacific Islander families moving in. Interesting mix
"As long as there is no overt or covert attempt by goverment or business to segregate people...then it is fine. Gives us the outstanding fantastic ethically intese neighborhoods we have in Chicago. Chicago is so lucky to have escaped the attempt at being a melting pot and making everyone the same. "

The segregation we have now is a result of overt and covert attempts by government and business.
More complicated than that oshkeoto. Redlining ended a while ago.
^ It hasn't ended completley now. And the public housing projects that were the chief instruments of postwar segregation are only now being torn down.
Glad to see someone took you to Carol's... that's a great bar. Fridays and Saturdays are the times to go, though. They got a band that plays until 4am, everyone's dancing, the Old Style's flowin' - it's a beautiful thing.
oshkeoto said:
"As long as there is no overt or covert attempt by goverment or business to segregate people...then it is fine. Gives us the outstanding fantastic ethically intese neighborhoods we have in Chicago. Chicago is so lucky to have escaped the attempt at being a melting pot and making everyone the same. "

The segregation we have now is a result of overt and covert attempts by government and business.

It is a historical fact that segregation was supported by business and government for quiet some time. And yes we are digging ourselves out of that mess....If there is any governmental or economic attempt at segregation then SUE SUE SUE. That crap has to be stopped.

But in the mean time...I am totally against forced integration and love the bi-product of natural segregation....tons of splended cultures to support and raise up with pride and not water downed or engulfed by the white washing it into the main dominant European based culture.
so jivecity , mazal tov on your engagment, whens the chassuna? haha im just messin. yeh i got alot of friends who live in skokie to.
"But in the mean time...I am totally against forced integration and love the bi-product of natural segregation...."

Extraordinary differences in crime levels, public school quality and infrastructure upkeep that always seems to give the shaft to non-whites.

Culturally, look at places like Uptown and Rogers Park. They're not watered-down. You don't have to live on different sides of town to retain a distinct culture.
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