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A lot to think about there and the course of Hadrian's Wall through the City centre has been a matter of much discussion and debate.What was Hadrians wall original course through Newcastle?
- Newcastle Arts Centre milecastle 4
- Remains by Lit and Phil. Not 100% on this, but seem to remember seeing a plaque or remains of the wall at this location
- Trial at car park adjacent to Dean Street with no evidence found
- Speculative location adjacent to Sallyport Tower
- Trial pit near Gibson Street found remains
- Remains found under recently built hotel
- 1920s archeological dig found evidence around ouseburn but not at far right location as speculated
So im willing to guess that like Westgate road, HW route may have been continued by the street patterns of the town.
Denton Chare via cathedral (which may have been established on HW foundations, to low bridge follow a roman like straight line through the centre. It is speculated that HW route bends down further south, to meet the fort, however the fort required space for troops to vacate, so my logic is that there should be ample space between the wall and the ridge top of the tyne gorge to allow soldiers to alight the fort.
Any thoughts on this guys would be greatly appreciated. Newcastle in Hadrians wall has a globally significant find within our city. And i personally dont think we highlight it enough. Tracing a better idea of the route would go a long way to helping Newcastle in its global and regional identity
As you will know before the discovery of Mile Castle 4 it was thought the wall was further towards the north of Westgate Road.
The remains at the Lit and Phil have been discussed on the forum before and a search will provide (if I remember correctly) a nice early photograph of a couple of workers standing in a trench outside the building with a section of what is claimed to be Hadrian's Wall exposed. There are plans to expose the wall here and have it as a feature for visitors to see the remains via a perspex screen.
Also discussed on the forum before was the discoveries during the archaeological dig at Melbourne Street/Gibson Street where a 13m section of the foundations of the wall were located together with other evidence of its alignment.
Was looking through Archaeologia Aeliana 1st Series, Vol. 1, 1822 and noted these observations concerning the discovery of walls in Collingwood Street which may have been part Hadrian's Wall.
Mr. Ventress has favoured us with notes of his observations to the following effect : On May 17, 1852, the labourers of the Water Company, in laying down pipes in the centre of Collingwood-street, at 92 feet from its east end, came upon a piece of Roman wall at right angles to the street, and 2 feet 1 1 inches in thickness. At 50 feet nearer to the east end of the same street another Boman wall, 6 feet 6 inches thick, -was found running in the same direction.
Dr. Bruce inspected these remains.
On 23 Dec. 1853, a drain from the Turf Hotel, leading across Collingwood-street, was renewed, and at 18 feet from the front of the hotel, and 121 feet from the east end of the street, Mr. Ventress saw the outside face of a piece of Roman wall. It was running diagonally in the street, S.W. to N. E., and striking for the angle of the Cloth -market and Mosley-street. The cut was about 4 feet wide, and that distance of wall was seen. The depth from the street pavement to the base of the wall was 9 feet. The wall had six courses of stones, the bottom one projecting 2 inches, and the entire thickness of the wall at its base was 9 feet. Mr. White was present.
The inner face of the wall is visible in one of the cellar apartments of the fish-shop in Collingwood-street.
On the following day, the Gas Company made a trench 16 inches wide and 20 inches deep, at 18 feet west of Mr. Gibson's Bank Buildings, and cut through a wall 9 feet thick, the southern face of which was 16 feet 4 inches north of the railing which surrounds the church of St. Nicholas. This wall was laid upon rough quarried flags about 4 inches thick. It appeared to be running to a point between Collingwood- street and Denton-chare ; but in so circumscribed an excavation, it was
difficult to ascertain the precise bearing. Mr. V. has one of the facing-stones. If this was the great wall, its course will be rather more to the north than that laid down by Mr. Maclauchlan in his Survey of the Barrier.
The foundations of the new Town-hall Buildings are laid in virgin clay, without a trace of disturbance or occupation, save a framework of wood to the north end of them, supposed to have been connected with a well, as water was plentiful at that place.
No remains have been observed in draining Westgate-street and Puddingchare, but the partial use of a drift in the latter may have concealed the great wall.
It is possible that Horsley's line of wall from the east may be that of the military way. Just north of the ancient passage formerly gained by the Nether Dene Bridge, in Dean -street, appearances of a side wall of Roman masonry were observed in 1852, possibly in connection with a viaduct there. (Eon plan.) All relics of the great wall at its presumed passage over the dean had long disappeared, for the remains of old English buildings of brick had substituted themselves.