pretty simple how harper gets a majority with 50 percent of the people here being agianst him. This is a place inwhich you have people contributing to a forum with an interest in architecture, urban issues and citys. With that type of interest you are looking at left leaning people in general who would be agaisnt harper or any conservative. Even in the real world of canadian politics the math is very simple with four parties. 41 percent of popular opinion running in the Tories favor makes a majority as the other parties divide the rest between them with uneven amounts. You have many three way races that the tories claim seats running up the middle between liberals and Ndp who tend to have similair type bases to a smaller right wing base of the tories that is seen by many outside the party to be just right of centre. That is the view in western canada, parts of rural ontario and the atlantic provinces. The three major cities didnt elect harper. The cities like calgary, edmonton were part of the rural vote that spread out evenly is huge in canada. The tories Breakthru in Quebec was for two reasons . rural eastern townships turning to what they feel is the only really federalist party. The colapse in confidence by quebec in the Liberals as a federalist representive for quebec.lopt said:OK, could someone explain to me how the hell Harper could get a majority? In the Tory thread, over 50% of people are against Harper. I need an explanation.
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Yes, but I'm afraid that in order to snap a majority, you need to have some MPs from major cities like Toronto, Vancouver, and Montreal. Plus, Harper is merely a puppet controlled by the hands of George W. Bush himself, so whenever Harper is PM, George Bush is running the country. No different from Tony Blair and John Howard. Canada does not need that.Jonestowncultinpicto said:pretty simple how harper gets a majority with 50 percent of the people here being agianst him. This is a place inwhich you have people contributing to a forum with an interest in architecture, urban issues and citys. With that type of interest you are looking at left leaning people in general who would be agaisnt harper or any conservative. Even in the real world of canadian politics the math is very simple with four parties. 41 percent of popular opinion running in the Tories favor makes a majority as the other parties divide the rest between them with uneven amounts. You have many three way races that the tories claim seats running up the middle between liberals and Ndp who tend to have similair type bases to a smaller right wing base of the tories that is seen by many outside the party to be just right of centre. That is the view in western canada, parts of rural ontario and the atlantic provinces. The three major cities didnt elect harper. The cities like calgary, edmonton were part of the rural vote that spread out evenly is huge in canada. The tories Breakthru in Quebec was for two reasons . rural eastern townships turning to what they feel is the only really federalist party. The colapse in confidence by quebec in the Liberals as a federalist representive for quebec.
A new minority government will always become a majority government unless you have a major confidence problem with the first period of the new government . Joe Clarke fits the bill. Harper is not turning out to be the scary tory monster for the public at large and is actually gaining popularity. The liberals are being painted in a bad light with new reports coming out by the hands of the tories. The auditor generals report on the gun registry comes to mind. The scraping of long gun registry but not restricted weapons and hand guns plays very well to a rural base of support for the tories. The keeping of the handgun registry reaches out to URBAN voters who may see more law and order with a conservative government.
steve harper is very politically smart and with a booming economy that has nothing to do with Harpers direction, atleast yet, There is no compelling reason to change things back to scandal and dubin inquiries which dogged Paul Martin. The Tories have not been in long enough to create a scandal that will stick.
jim jones
And what can canada aspire to with the NDP for example to be just like Sweden?lopt said:Yes, but I'm afraid that in order to snap a majority, you need to have some MPs from major cities like Toronto, Vancouver, and Montreal. Plus, Harper is merely a puppet controlled by the hands of George W. Bush himself, so whenever Harper is PM, George Bush is running the country. No different from Tony Blair and John Howard. Canada does not need that.
The polls are favoring the Conservatives because the Liberals are leaderless.
PS. The two forumers who voted for Bloc, I know you're being sarcastic.
Coffee Stain said:Some good arguments by all here :cheers:
Jim Jones, I got a ask though, what is wrong with being like Sweden? Might need to check on this but according to UN (One of the humanitarian divisions) Sweden is the best place to live in the world right now......
Being a welfare state does not mean you are anti-business...
As for the softwood lumber, that is a national disgrace, can't only blame Libs or Cons here, we should not be as dependant on the USA as we are, and getting screwed by the softwood lumber is an example, I say screw the whole system, sell lumber to China/India/EU....they need these resources a lot, especially China, Im thinking they would give us a better deal, who knows tho....
As for your Tony Blair point, couldn't have said it better my self :cheers:
As for cities, I still think these will be Liberal strongholds for a while....
Market failures are an inevitable part of a free market economy, and when they happen, jobs disappear and poverty results. Lack of regulation brings all kinds of other safety, environmental, and lifestyle quality issues, as well. The people of the Dickens era would likely not agree with your simple assesment.Jonestowncultinpicto said:The Best form of socialism is a JOB.The best creator of JOBS is Free market economies with little government intervention. Sorry The America is the model for that and it is now becoming what China is copying.
The objective of the free market is not to employ every able bodied person. In fact, that could not be further from the truth.Jonestowncultinpicto said:Having the conditions inwhich every possible able body person works is the objective.