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Hi there,

I am very interested in the urban road systems in LA and am making a visit to the area in a few months (bar car :) ) - coming from England, and travelling through the USA.

I was wondering whether people have any pictures to post up with maybe some history of the big motorways; especially the really big raised, concrete projects from the 1960s/70s? They look very impressive compared to what we have over here, and I am looking forward to driving on them (sort of.)

Also, what is the idea with these concrete canal things you have in LA; I think they are to do with over flow from the dams (?) How often does water flow through these things? Are they dangerous? Where does the water go to?

Thanks in advance :)
 

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The flood-control channels are mostly natural rivers and streams, and the system isn't necessarily related to the dams.

The channels are gradually being restored to their more natural appearance. And, during the rainy season, they do fill with, oftentimes fast-flowing, water, which can be dangerous.

All the water drains to rivers or to the ocean, itself.
 

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There have been more than enough video from various news channels showing foolish teenagers being swept away into tunnels that would take them out into the ocean.​
Here's an image of my fave and if you are coming here, rent a car for now- but welcome :)
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There have been more than enough video from various news channels showing foolish teenagers being swept away into tunnels that would take them out into the ocean.​
Here's an image of my fave and if you are coming here, rent a car for now- but welcome :)
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Splendid, where you at?
:uh:

Like a roller coaster, lol.

I am mainly in the north of England.
 

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That is art!! Simply astonishing!!^^
 

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I get frustrated when 'people' knock places like LA because they say it is a great big freeway! At least all the freeways are not dead ends and link any point in the greater city to any other, then only secondary roads are used by local traffic...or that's how I see it ? I have driven in LA and the USA generally on a few visits and found it easier to get around than here in Australia, Melbourne or Sydney...which is horrendous, both of which are around 4 million people cities. If we accept that cars are part of human individual travel...or is that such an evil anti social thing these days...a good road system is necessary in a big city...and LA has done it well IMO.
 

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It's true, freeways that don't link to other freeways usually just cause huge jam ups somewhere.

Speaking of art, the SD/SM interchange (405 and 10 nowadays) from above is quite elegant as well.
 

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Drove around town a bit. I was no longer surprised that LA streets were worse than Inglewood or Compton, but I was surprised how much worse they were. Worst US streets I've seen since NY in the 1970's.
 

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There are some pictures in the Historical Los Angeles thread in the main LA page. I saw some of old Downtown before there were highways and during the construction and you can look on google to see what they are now. It amazes me.
 

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LIKE THIS??

 
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At least the signals are now synchronized.

LA Has Become the First Major City to Sync All Its Traffic Lights

http://la.curbed.com/archives/2013/...major_city_to_sync_all_its_traffic_lights.php
Not even. I was driving down Van Nuys Blvd. about 1:00 AM and was stopped at 4consecutive lights with zero cross traffic. True fact. And 6th, Wilshire, Olympic, Vermont and Western are clearly not synchonized, at least not at any speed that makes sense. That pronouncement was pure invention, presumably to build the case that Villaraigosa would not be a ridiculous political appointee of some sort.
 

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I will say that Wilshire is a lot faster than it used to be. More importantly than traffic lights is the state of the roads in LA. There is no excuse for the moonscape that is the streets of Los Angeles. Craters and canyons have replaced potholes and cracks.
 

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I will say that Wilshire is a lot faster than it used to be. More importantly than traffic lights is the state of the roads in LA. There is no excuse for the moonscape that is the streets of Los Angeles. Craters and canyons have replaced potholes and cracks.
To be fair, I agree with this: synchronization is better than it was but hardly "complete", whatever that might mean. Maybe the press announcement was to take minds off potholes.
 

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Such a cynic.
 

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Los Angeles Mayor wants greener streets
By MICHAEL R. BLOOD

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...yor-wants-greener-streets/?page=all#pagebreak
Thursday, April 10, 2014
Los Angeles

LOS ANGELES (AP) - Hoping to give a new look to a city where the car is king, Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti said Thursday that he planned to add plazas, trees and artwork to some of the city’s busiest streets to lure walkers, cyclists, new cafes and shops.
A more walkable Los Angeles? The city has long privileged cars over pedestrians, bikes or baby strollers, but Garcetti said greener, more attractive streets are a pathway to a better future. He plans to start with improvements to 15 thoroughfares across the city, including a main artery that cuts through downtown.

“These great streets will be the standard-bearers of a revitalized city, one main street at a time,” the first-term Democrat said in a speech to City Council members and business, government and civic leaders.

“We are going to bring back the glory days on our storied … boulevards,” he added.

But the car was not forgotten.

The mayor also announced an expansion of the notoriously clogged Interstate 405 would open in May, months ahead of schedule. It earned him some of his loudest applause of the night.

The speech, informally known as the state of the city, was part boosterism, part defense of his first nine months in office, part agenda for salving a city struggling with a litany of problems, from strangled freeways to a looming pension crisis.

Among his plans, Garcetti said he wanted to slash a business tax that he says chases away jobs; allow residents to conduct more business with the city online, rather than travel to City Hall; and stop Hollywood jobs from fleeing to others states and countries.

After several smaller earthquakes rattled nerves in recent weeks, Garcetti said the city would develop a rating system to catalog the earthquake safety of buildings, as part of a partnership with the U.S. Geological Survey. Plans would also be made to protect water and communications systems and make improvements to older buildings, he said.

The 43-year-old mayor said his budget to be released next week would erase a projected $250 million shortfall, but he provided no details on how he closed the gap. He also said he would block any attempt by the city-run utility, the Department of Water and Power, to raise rates this year.

Garcetti said he planned to pave more streets - a key campaign promise - but not how many. In an interview in January, the mayor said it could take a decade and as much as $3 billion to do a good, if not complete, repair job on hundreds of miles of cratered and cracked roadway in Los Angeles. It’s not clear where the financially struggling city will get the money.

His speech comes a day after a city commission that previously warned that Los Angeles was drifting toward decline made sweeping proposals that included unifying the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach, forming a new regional agency to lure more tourists and finding a way to slow runaway government-pension costs. Garcetti did not directly address those proposals in his speech.

During his nine months in office, Garcetti has succeeded in differentiating himself from his predecessor, fellow Democrat Antonio Villaraigosa. Garcetti’s retiring personality and back-to-basics agenda stand in contrast to the former mayor, who was known for his headline-grabbing lifestyle and ambitious, if sometimes out of reach, goals.

At several points Garcetti defended his low-key approach, contrasting it with gridlock in Washington. “We’re about getting results, not about getting headlines,” he said.

The speech was not a make-or-break moment for Garcetti, said Raphael Sonenshein, executive director of the Pat Brown Institute of Public Affairs at California State University, Los Angeles.


“He’ll be judged by what kind of difference he makes for people who live in the city over a longer period of time,” said Sonenshein, noting that Garcetti had been on the job less than a year.
 
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