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Hey everyone...
I was wondering whether any one could help me. I need some information on the road upgrades in Hillcrest in terms of the planning, EIA's and public involvement etc. If know anything about it please help!!!!!
 

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OMG GOD ITS A GIRL!, GUYS COME QUICK ITS A GIRL !!!! :eek2:

How you doin:naughty:

Sorry Geogirl, I am not going crazy :crazy2:, I'm so happy finally we got an SA girl on board (no offence Mo) It was becoming one BIG MALE party here. First of all welcome, & secondly sorry, I have absoloutly no info on these road upgrades.
 

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Greg lives in Hillcrest he might be able to help!

Welcome though! :)

Otherwise have you checked the eThekwini council website? They have alot of that stuff on there and have an easy to use search function too.
 

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oh and please mind him...he is not used to chatting to girls...merely posting pics and dremaing of them and.... :)

Calm boy...i'll introduce u to some of the sharks girls if you promise to not rip their clothes off!
 

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Yeh I do go abit crazy from time to time, see this is what construction does to you! esp if you sit in an office the whole day looking for faults on plans & design thousands of layouts & manange to get it on time to site so no one looses their head.

Hey dys I aint that desperate! pifff rip their clothes off, they must do that them selves :crazy:
 

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Sorry, I can't help. But welcome to the forums Geogirl. Oh and don't worry about Dursboi, we'll up his medication.
 

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Welcome Geogirl! Below are the only details I could find on the matter:

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Outer West development fears unfounded - Sutcliffe
13 July, 2005
By eThekwini City Manager, Dr Michael Sutcliffe

Recent newspaper articles have suggested that Hillcrest was sitting on a health time bomb, that the road system could not cope owing to the development boom, and that Metro plans for development were surging ahead despite residents resisting. Alarmist Hillcrest health-warning posters, promoting newspapers sales, were publicly displayed.

It may be useful to examine some of the allegations in detail, which appear to have been supplied by members of EnviroWest, but not fully verified by the press. It is indeed correct that many private sewage package-type plants fail to meet the general imit value criteria laid down by the Department of Water Affairs and Forestry. Because of this, a moratorium on such plants was declared in July 2003, until such time as trials showed they complied with the criteria. None of the then-manufacturers of package-type plants has since done trials or successfully complied with the general limit value. Accordingly, the moratorium remains in place.

Moratorium

As part of the Outer West Strategic Assessment of 2003/4, when the moratorium on development was in place, the water quality of a number of rivers and streams in the Outer West was tested. None of the tests found cause for concern, despite upstream package-type plants in some cases not fully complying. Nevertheless, the municipality has acted responsibly in managing the density of development that may be permitted, protecting the natural environment’s capacity to deal with wastewater and stormwater.
Alluding to the alleged state of rivers elsewhere in KwaZulu-Natal - some outside the eThekwini Municipal area - coupled with unproven assertions on carcinogenic, abortive and mutative properties, without seeking proper verification, is alarmist and irresponsible.

Furthermore, the use of chlorine is standard procedure throughout the world in water and wastewater treatment processes. The caveat is to keep the residue chlorine at acceptable levels as set by the responsible authority, in this case the Department of Water Affairs and Forestry. It is correct that restaurants in the Heritage Market, both old and new, have been ordered to install fat traps and remove the macerators, because the load is putting undue strain on the Hillcrest Wastewater Treatment Works.
Once these measures have been completed, the problems now experienced will disappear. Traffic has undoubtedly grown significantly in Hillcrest with the new developments, but congestion rarely reaches levels commonly found elsewhere in eThekwini.

Road upgrade programmes, first estimated to cost about R60 million, coupled with related upgrades of some minor roads, will ensure the situation is contained and managed. Upgrades such as the widening of the Inanda Road/Old Main Road intersection, additional signals on these roads, and the completion of the Durban-bound ramp from Shongweni Road on to the M13, have already significantly eased traffic flow. The claim that 2 000 additional units would be erected along Inanda Road, as stated by John Davis, is not substantiated.

Further, the arithmetic of changing 1 400 vehicles an hour on Inanda Road into 4 500 to 5 000 vehicles an hour, based on this assumption, simply doesn't tally. A series of planning studies for the development of the 800ha farm in the upper end of Langefontein were done by Vincent Leggo Associates for then-owner Timothy Luke Bailes, beginning in 1984 and continuing to mid-1990. These included planning for a 200ha industrial township, residential townships and a community centre.
Planning

This planning was done with the former local authorities - the Hillcrest Town Board, the Waterfall Town Board and the Borough of Kloof. Other local authorities - such as the Botha's Hill Town Board and the Everton Health Committee - were also consulted. The area was eventually incorporated into the municipal area of the former Hillcrest Town Board. The studies by Vincent Leggo Associates included:
Feasibility study for an industrial township in sub-region West 2 of the Durban Metropolitan Region, July 1986;
N & D application industrial township at upper end of Langefontein in the Durban Metropolitan Region, December 1987;
Langefontein industrial park - Durban Functional Region, 1991;
Upper end of Langefontein, Durban Functional Region, November 1992;
Feasibility study proposed residential townships on portion six of upper end of Langefontein No 980 Hillcrest extension, June 1992; and
Outline development plan for a major land holding on farm in upper end of Langefontein, 1980, the eastern expansion zone of Hillcrest, August 1995.

After the above were done, township applications were submitted to the local and provincial authorities, and granted with final conditions for the establishment for four residential townships and one industrial township. The studies detailed above included the following specialist studies:
Detailed engineering geological and soils investigation by Drennan Maud and Partners - April 1986;
Upper end of Langefontein (Hillcrest) development 1985 traffic impact report 1987 update - D J Haliburton (the report included road requirements situated well outside the land holding);
Report on engineering services - B S Bergman & Partners - circa 1986; and
Sewage disposal options for development on various portions of the Farms UEL 980, Everton and Waterfall - Drennan Maud and Partners - July 1994.

The above traffic report's many recommendations, included the need to upgrade Inanda Road (MR255) to four lanes to a point in Waterfall progressively implemented from 1995 onwards; the initial securing of a road reserve; the establishment of a link between Kassier Road (MR454) and Fischer Road (MR259) before 1993; and the installation of a number of traffic lights.

A site for a sewage treatment works - which would have served the industrial township - was identified in the Nqutu valley at the eastern end of the site. It was, however, suggested that it could provide a regional service, including areas of Hillcrest.

After the above, township applications were submitted to the local and provincial authorities and granted with the issue of final conditions of establishment for four residential townships (townships one and two flanking Hillcrest, and townships three and four flanking Waterfall/Kloof/Everton), and one industrial township, which included the sewage treatment site.

Proper planning process observed in Hillcrest area

Town-planning schemes were, in addition, prepared and adopted for Langefontein (largely the industrial township) and Hillcrest two (the balance of the Bailes landholding) by the Development and Services Board, and the former Hillcrest Town Board respectively. The latter scheme introduced the concept of planned unit development, which provided by way of three planned unit development zones, with densities ranging from 10 to 20 units a hectare. (The former Town and Regional Planning Commission - now the Provincial Planning and Development Commission - was consulted before the zoning was implemented).

In the event, despite the general plan for the industrial township being prepared as required in terms of the conditions of establishment, the installation of services did not proceed. Consequently, it was never proclaimed, nor was the then-proposed sewage treatment works developed. Most of the township has since been re-zoned to residential planned unit developments to accommodate phase two of Cotswold Downs, a golf-course residential estate.

The four residential townships, which received final conditions of establishment in 1996/7, were never taken up at that time. Portions of townships one and two were eventually to be developed as part of the Kirtlington and Langford Estates in terms of totally new development plans over the period 2000-2005. Townships three and four constitute the present and proposed Clifton Hill development. The township three layout was subsequently varied with a Section 20 amendment to the conditions of establishment, and is now being developed. Township four is awaiting a favourable environmental impact assessment and the record of decisions - as now required by environmental legislation.

Vacuum

So it is incorrect to suggest that the original planning for these areas occurred in a vacuum outside of any local or provincial authority control - without either identifying or having any intention of putting the necessary infrastructure in place, as and when the development occurred. What did happen was that the development did not occur when it was originally anticipated, and when it finally did, it happened at a pace not anticipated at the time.

The demarcation of new local authorities was done in 1995/6 by the KwaZulu-Natal Demarcation Board, and the Outer West Local Council was established as part of the Durban Metropolitan Unicity Council, which saw the disappearance of the former local authorities.

In 2000, the Consolidated Outer West Town Planning Scheme was adopted, it saw the demise of the prior 14 separate town-planning schemes. While the town-planning scheme controls were replaced with totally new scheme controls, the prior zones from a spatial point of view remained - albeit in some cases undergoing name changes and some relatively minor development control amendments. In late 2000, the national Municipal Demarcation Board established the eThekwini Municipality as a single and enlarged local authority following a redemarcation of the country.

In late October 2003, a moratorium was declared on all new development by the municipal manager, owing to the unprecedented development then occurring in the Outer West and concern that the development might outstrip infrastructure and, in particular, roads and sewage. It was lifted on March 23, 2004, after the completion of a strategic planning assessment, identifying a way forward. This included:

The preparation of an Outer West spatial development plan;
A proposed major road upgrade programme of about R60 million for improvements to Old Main Road, the doubling of Inanda and Kassier roads, a link between them, and the completion of the Shongweni Road/M13 interchange - all to be funded jointly by the developers, the council and the province, in about equal shares;
Sewage to be addressed by upgrades to the existing Hillcrest Wastewater Treatment Works, on-site septic tank/soak pit/evapo-transpiration areas and a possible private wastewater treatment works to serve Le Domaine, Cotswold Downs and portions of Clifton Hill; and
The signing of agreements between developers and the city for them to contribute R10 000 a residential unit and R15 000 for each 100 square metres of commercial development.

The draft Outer West spatial development plan of January 2005 was advertised for comment in early 2005. The plan commits the municipality to protecting the lifestyles provided for by the residential suburbs within the western suburbs. The road-improvement plans, which now include a number of local road upgrades, such as Hospital Road and Shongweni Road - have since been prepared by Iliso Consulting, and environmental impact assessments have been started; public presentations have recently been given on these. The construction of the fourth and final leg of the Shongweni Road/M13 interchange near Plantations is expected to begin soon.
The upgrade of the Hillcrest wastewater treatment works is due to begin soon and is being funded partly by the Plantations Estate. An agreement has been struck to establish a private water service provider, and the completion of the associated private wastewater treatment works above Fischer Road to serve Le Domaine and Cotswold Downs is set for completion this June. The development contribution levy requirement has since been extended
to include all subsequent developments received and as from June 2004, to include minor residential developments. This will eventually swell the funds received from developers beyond their originally anticipated R20 million. While the greater Hillcrest area is undoubtedly experiencing a development boom, and pressure is being placed on existing services, there are no causes for undue public concern. Sewage from the area is treated at the council's Hillcrest Wastewater Treatment Works, private sewage package plants and septic tank/soak pit/evapotranspiration systems.

Moratorium

A moratorium was placed on the construction of new package plants in July 2003 and is still in place. It will remain so until such time as a pilot plant proves conformity with the general limit value norms. The council's Water and Sanitation Unit continues to work closely with the owners of the existing plants to introduce proper management of the existing installations. As a result of this, many owners are now employing skilled process professionals with a resulting marked improvement of effluent quality. A new private wastewater treatment works is being built to council standards in Fischer Road and will service the Le Domaine and Cotswold Downs developments.
The council's Environmental Health Unit has identified no danger to public health. Further, the council has been putting in place planning and road upgrade plans, which - judging from attendance at public meetings for the draft Outer West spatial development plan and the various road upgrade environmental impact assessment scoping meetings, and written submissions received to date - are, by and large, being supported by most residents of the area.

http://www.durban.gov.za/eThekwini/Municipality/CMN/20050619Hillcrest/view
 

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:) Hey guys, thanks for the warm welcome!!! :) lol....Yeah...well I'm a geology student at UKZN...and I have to do a scoping project for civ eng on the road upgrades in Hillcrest. And have no clue what I'm supposed to do!If any one could pls help me...I'd greatly appreciate it!Thanks romanSA for the article....Its nice to meet all you guys! :)
 

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maybe an idea wld be to contact a quantity surveyor and ask him where you could access that sort of information?
 

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go to city engineers in old fort rd, i forgot the guys name, but i think his on the 5th floor, not sure, just ask the reception for the dep of roads, or something like that, they should help you, OR in the city engineers building, as you enter, the lifts are on your right, recep on your left, just walk straight ahead till you get to a small flight of stairs leading up to a sort of LAN, you can use those PC's there, it is on an intranet with loads of info of the city & metro area.
 

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Nah, went on an excersion once, then visited the place a few times to get site info,
so yeh I did visit the place alot. Go to level -1 theres just 1 room there, its the archives room, every single plan of a house, building, etc is there, as long as you have the address, or plot number along with a letter from the owner of the property allowing you to access the plans, they can give it to you! its stored on micro flim, which is flippin tiny, then u put it into these machines they have there that print that tiny thing onto an a0 page!!!
 

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DB u chased her away...the only female for u on here....ur once last chance to give ur hand a break
 

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thats so cool! another geotypeperson!!!! and then there was 2! woohoo!!! :righton: im a geology student at uj!!! well-climate change with rocks as the evidence
 

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...at uj!!!...
We all have our problems - don't worry.

:jk: :jk: :jk:

Re: The roads in Hillcrest - the turnoff from the M13 West has been suspended since the Dept. didn't bother to properly check who's land they were happily building on. Surprisingly enough the farmer who owns the land has taken them to court so the whole thing has come to a screaming halt.
 

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which interchange? that must be after the hillcrest off ramp...the one near plantations?
 

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Durbsboi said:
go to city engineers in old fort rd, i forgot the guys name, but i think his on the 5th floor, not sure, just ask the reception for the dep of roads, or something like that, they should help you, OR in the city engineers building, as you enter, the lifts are on your right, recep on your left, just walk straight ahead till you get to a small flight of stairs leading up to a sort of LAN, you can use those PC's there, it is on an intranet with loads of info of the city & metro area.
Those guys (city planning dept) in the same building were the ones who gave me all the heights for durbans buildings till I wore out my welcome with them . very helpfull in the old fort rd building
 

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which interchange? that must be after the hillcrest off ramp...the one near plantations?
Yea - at the moment you could get onto / off from the M13 to /from PMB respectively, and get onto the M13 to Kloof, but not off the M13 from Kloof, so its basically 3/4 done.
 

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SA BOY said:
Those guys (city planning dept) in the same building were the ones who gave me all the heights for durbans buildings till I wore out my welcome with them . very helpfull in the old fort rd building
Ya now they even more welcoming, or should I say relaxed?
 
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