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Worse case scenerio:

if global climate change accelerates towards the quicker ends of the predictions taking us to midcentury, do you see a possibility of a significant (dare I say refugee) migration to the interior of the nation, particularly the midwest from coastal areas damaged and shrunk by rising waters?
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Yes. Detroit and Cleveland will look pretty nice when New York and Miami are underwater.
if the climate changes that much, what makes you think the midwest will be a refuge and immune to the effects of climate change? who knows what the midwest would look like, it could be a desert for all you know.
Yes. Detroit and Cleveland will look pretty nice when New York and Miami are underwater.
I doubt that the most of the major coastal cities will be too affected if sea levels rise.
Cities such as New York and Washington DC will probably set up a system like what London has. Besides, the only part of Manhatten that would be flooded will be the southern tip (which is easily rectifiable). All the rest (where the residential area is) is high enough even in storm conditions.
Most of the west coast cities (LA, San Fransisco, Seattle) are on high terrain anyways so they are in the black.
The cities that might end up getting screwed will be those in the south such as Miami and New Orleans (a definate). Who knows; maybe Miami will embrace the flooding and set itself up to be the Venice of the Americas.

Oh and I doubt that midwestern cities will benefit too much from a migration. This is due to the fact that most of the migration will be from the lower class range. If you notice, the wealthy already tend to live on high ground anyways (except in Miami). So they are either unlikely to move, or already have a contingency plan in place.
And most likely, there will be high tensions between the migrants and the natives.

As for the Midwest itself, the plains region (from Kansas westward) may end up getting hit hard. It may be the Dustbowl all over again. At the same time, Minnisota may be reaping the benefits from heightened temperatures. There will always be both winners and losers when climates shift.
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aren't detriot, cleveland, chicago, milwaukee, etc. all on water as well?
I read an article somewhere that said that if sea levels rose due to global warming, the Great Lakes wouldn't be affected because they're actually above sea level. I don't know the logistics behind this.
As far as I always knew, I thought the Great Lakes were below sea level? I mean isn't Chicago itself below sea level?
aren't detriot, cleveland, chicago, milwaukee, etc. all on water as well?
yes, we're all screwed! Everyone will have to migrate to Indianapolis, then the city of Indy will merge with the state of Indiana to create super unigov.
yes, we're all screwed! Everyone will have to migrate to Indianapolis, then the city of Indy will merge with the state of Indiana to create super unigov.
The sea level rise wouldn't effect the Great Lakes at all. It would affect Quebec and the St. Lawrence valley area but that's about it.

If the sea level rises as much as the fearmongers would have us believe then yes there should be a significant migration to the interior. Especially since the warmer seas would produce more frequent and ferocious hurricanes.
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The sea level rise wouldn't effect the Great Lakes at all. It would affect Quebec and the St. Lawrence valley area but that's about it.

If the sea level rises as much as the fearmongers would have us believe then yes there should be a significant migration to the interior. Especially since the warmer seas would produce more frequent and ferocious hurricanes.
I was just joking.

If the sea level rises to that extent, I'd imagine there will be no mass migration to the midwest or some midwest renaissance, everyone will be screwed.
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As for the Midwest itself, the plains region (from Kansas westward) may end up getting hit hard. It may be the Dustbowl all over again. At the same time, Minnisota may be reaping the benefits from heightened temperatures. There will always be both winners and losers when climates shift.
I heard the same thing. The areas west of the mississippi will get much dryer and the Great Lakes region will become wetter and more "tropical". There are some projections that have Illinois aquiring a climate similar to coastal North Carolina.:nuts:
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I read an article somewhere that said that if sea levels rose due to global warming, the Great Lakes wouldn't be affected because they're actually above sea level. I don't know the logistics behind this.
OK. Take your time. Concentrate. Now,

Imagine Niagra Falls not running backwards.



Don't sweat it. Try again. Close your eyes...

And picture this:

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I read an article somewhere that said that if sea levels rose due to global warming, the Great Lakes wouldn't be affected because they're actually above sea level. I don't know the logistics behind this.
the great lakes are unaffected by sea level.
Of course the Midwest would be seriously affected by climate change. I wasn't suggesting otherwise nor did I think it would be pleasant here.

My post was related to scientists predictions that there would be dislocation and the movement of people inland with global warming.

The question is legitamate.
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Worse case scenerio:

if global climate change accelerates towards the quicker ends of the predictions taking us to midcentury, do you see a possibility of a significant (dare I say refugee) migration to the interior of the nation, particularly the midwest from coastal areas damaged and shrunk by rising waters?
Even without global warming, & even Bush now concedes the reality of global warming, it sure would be great if the Great Lakes area were repopulated to replace/reverse the decades of outmigration from the rustbelt cities & small town/rural areas. Misguided Federal policies & corporate relocations have encouraged the depopulation of the hearland. The cold Midwestern winters & hot summers may not be so great, but its a lot more sustainable than places like Pheonix & Vegas that could run out of water. The Great Lakes is one of the our best natural resources.
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Unfortunately for the great lakes, climate change may mean warmer winters, which means less ice cover on the great lakes, which means more evaporation, which means the size of the great lakes shrinking.
Well, I'd say the first thing we'd have to do, is build a wall from Fargo to Kansas City and then loop around to a little north of Cleveland.
In the year 2100:

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^^that is one damn funny graphic.
as for my $0.02 I think Bay2Bay is right, the Great Lakes will likely shrink in the face of global warming because evaporation will be greater due to less ice and higher temps. Maybe it's time to divert the Mississippi RIver into the Great Lakes so that we keep the oceans from getting too full and the great lakes too empty:nuts:
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