San José Development News

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Discussion Starter · Feb 10, 2006 (Edited by Moderator)

San Jose Development News

San Jose Skyline Panoramic by SkylineScenes (Bill Cobb), on Flickr

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Will downtown San Jose ever develop the type of height and density of the downtowns in San Francisco, Oakland, and Sacramento?

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snufalufugus

· #2 · Feb 10, 2006

Not as long as airplanes continue to fly over downtown on their way to San Jose Int'l airport.

San Diego also has their airport very close to downtown, but I don't think the flight plath to the airport goes directly over downtown. However, San Diego's downtown is growing pretty nicely and dense.

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612bv3

· #3 · Feb 10, 2006

It could with low-rise and mid-rise buildings. As for that airport, the flight path does go over downtown San Jose. San Jose wont have a skyline like San Francisco, Sacramento and maybe even Oakland but it can have the density. San Jose also has a lot of freeways compared to SF, Sac, and Oak, it's the LA of NorCal.

Here's an aerial of the airport and downtown SJ.
http://local.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp=37.34533~-121.88851&style=a&lvl=14

VanSeaPor

· #4 · Feb 22, 2006

Density-Quite possibly
Height-No

NOR CAL

· #5 · Feb 26, 2006

612bv3 said:
San Jose also has a lot of freeways compared to SF, Sac, and Oak, it's the LA of NorCal.

Yea, I've always said this too, and also there's a lot of palm trees compared to the rest of the bay... well there are some small areas with a lot but San Jose i'd say has the most wide spread.

Slammed0

· #6 · Feb 27, 2006

Ya its too bad they will never have a great skyline because it is a beautiful area down there.

chuangk

· #7 · Feb 27, 2006

I totally agree SJ can have a much better skyline if the airpot is not there.
However, some european cities have great urbanity w-out skyscrapers,
so I believe SJ can do that as well

jchernin

· #8 · Mar 1, 2006

^ i totally agree.
increased height does not equal increased density necessarily. much of san francisco consists of 2-6 story buildings, yet it has the 2nd highest density in the nation. it's more about using the space wisely.

2nd, a downtown airport doesn't and shouldn't mean the city will never have a skyline. san diego's airport is right by their downtown, creating a height limit of 500 ft above sea level. however, san diego is in the midst of a high-rise condo boom.

what makes san jose different is the fact that it's basically a suburb. more ppl leave the city for work then commute in during the day. the city was designed for the car. just looking at a map makes u realize there are more freeways/expressways in SJ then anywhere else in the bay. until SJ in itself becomes a DESTINATION, instead of a massive suburban residentail complex that serves sf, mountain view, palo alto, etc, i don't think ur gonna see much in the way of high-rises.

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kiddorbitz01

· #9 · Apr 27, 2006

Sj will definately have a beautiful skyline, its underway. Maybe not that tall but tall enough. The density we will achieve. Remember also that the strip of north first street between Brokaw rd and Montague expwy will be developed into high-rise mixed residential and commercial. It will be a second downtown. I believe the mercury news called it "Dowtown North".

surrill

· #10 · Apr 28, 2006

kiddorbitz01 said:
Sj will definately have a beautiful skyline, its underway. Maybe not that tall but tall enough. The density we will achieve. Remember also that the strip of north first street between Brokaw rd and Montague expwy will be developed into high-rise mixed residential and commercial. It will be a second downtown. I believe the mercury news called it "Dowtown North".

does any body know if there are height restrictions in North San Jose? the airport is right across the free way,but the approach is nowhere near the proposed Industrial Core Area.if we cant have height downtown,might as well get it in N. San Jose and make downtown super dense.

arturo

· #11 · May 1, 2006

From what I've found, the proposed height limit will be set at a measely 120 feet. (Although I feel they will be forced to raise it) That is enough to create density so long as planning is done properly (ie. ground floor retail) but I doubt the people governing San Jose have the vision to carry it out properly. I fear it will end up looking nice but will be a pain in the arse to walk the way Almaden Blvd is.

jiggawhat?

· #12 · May 1, 2006

I JUst flew into san jose yesterday...HAHA I COULD NOT BELIEVE the downtown...and how low the planes fl to those buildings...its amazing..its like u can almost touch them...there is no way they can buikld any higher.

surrill

· #13 · May 2, 2006

arturo said:
From what I've found, the proposed height limit will be set at a measely 120 feet. (Although I feel they will be forced to raise it) That is enough to create density so long as planning is done properly (ie. ground floor retail) but I doubt the people governing San Jose have the vision to carry it out properly. I fear it will end up looking nice but will be a pain in the arse to walk the way Almaden Blvd is.

i hope they allow taller buildings....at least 400 feet..ive just given up on downtown....i just dont see it bein vibrant with all those single family homes in the northside being so close to down down....and the redevelopment agency wont use eminent domain....plus the airport is so close causing noise pollution and the hight restrictions just kill it....lets just move on to north san jose....its bigger than down town most of the businesses are there. i hope they dont tap into coyote valley tho...that would be ashame...

612bv3

· #14 · May 2, 2006

kiddorbitz01 said:
Sj will definately have a beautiful skyline, its underway. Maybe not that tall but tall enough. The density we will achieve. Remember also that the strip of north first street between Brokaw rd and Montague expwy will be developed into high-rise mixed residential and commercial. It will be a second downtown. I believe the mercury news called it "Dowtown North".

Wont the airport still be in the way. How high can you build in that area?

surrill

· #15 · May 2, 2006

612bv3 said:
Wont the airport still be in the way. How high can you build in that area?

the airport approach is not directly over the industrial core in north san jose the way it is downtown.

612bv3

· #16 · May 2, 2006

OK I see it now. I thought planes went over that area when they're landing.

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arturo

· #17 · May 2, 2006

surrill said:
i just dont see it bein vibrant with all those single family homes in the northside being so close to down down....and the redevelopment agency wont use eminent domain....plus the airport is so close causing noise pollution and the hight restrictions just kill it....lets just move on to north san jose....its bigger than down town most of the businesses are there. i hope they dont tap into coyote valley tho...that would be ashame...

As a resident of one of those single family homes I hope the city never uses eminent domain!

Realistically the only place downtown has to go is north and south along First St and Monterey Hwy. and First St already has Light Rail, which would at least connect it to downtown. If only it ran underground...
And as far as Coyote Valley, that will be the biggest mistake if it goes through. It will only encourage sprawl southward away from the bay proper instead of towards it (where it shold go if we want to avoid further comparisons to LA). But leave it it to San Jose's gifted politicos to support the revitalization of downtown while simultaneously promoting a Coyote plan that discourages downtown growth.

bluesbrother42fs

· #18 · Aug 10, 2006

A challenge for San Jose,CA

okay..i've seen people create their own skylines and design magnificent skyscrapers. Alright let's see how you can go crazy with the software and keep under the rules.

City: San Jose, California (a few quick notes)
San Jose, California has a population of about 950,000 and is poised to reach one million strong within the next decade. The downtown area is noted for it's so called "skyscrapers" with a lack of buildings exceeding 16 stories. If you pan around the city, Mineta San Jose International Airport is quite close to downtown and it seems that the FAA has put a permanent height limit on buildings in San Jose.

Challenge: To anyone who thinks they can do it, create a skyline for downtown San Jose (with current buildings in place) and has some interesting appeal. I'll bend the rules a little bit for you....the area surrounded by the Knight Ridder building, the Fairmont Hotel, and San Jose City Hall (note the triangular section they form) has NO HEIGHT LIMIT. I repeat the triangular section I have made mention of has NO HEIGHT LIMIT IN PLACE! So build em high in that area and make em blend well into the city.

To the one who can create a beautiful skyline, I will use your picture and other graphics and submit them to the San Jose City Council for review with their 2000 Downtown Strategy. GET GOING!

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surrill

· #19 · Aug 10, 2006

hate that stupid airport!!! i seriously do.

bluesbrother42fs

· #20 · Aug 11, 2006

surrill said:
hate that stupid airport!!! i seriously do.

I have to agree with you man..the challenge is still up ladies and gentlemen! ok...but seriosuly though where are you going to move that airport if you could? North San Jose? oh sure...go right on ahead. Piss off the arrogant people of Alviso. Who hate change and don't make any attempt to reach out and make a "real" community with the newcomers.

SOMEONE PLEASE FIX THIS

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