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SEQ Plan (PDF 3+mb)


Interesting plan. Points in the too hard basket not really covered:


Western Bypass ~ Further studies required.
Brisbane to Gold Coast Corridor ~ Just where does the future transit corridor join up in Brisbane.
Redcliffe ~ No train line.



Some of the good bits:

Bus Priority ~ Eastern Busway
Western Suburbs will have bus lanes - once the Centenary and Northern Tunnel is built.


A good start but alot more to go, such as River crossings etc.
 

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Ebenezer?! /me looks in street directory...well...it looks like it's in there :p

hmm, the Redlands get to have more road widenings by 2016 and a buslane by 2026
and the gold-coast <-> brisbane road - if it was to go through the redlands, quite a few people would oppose, probably why the plans stopped in beenleigh
 

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$55 Billion!!!!
Hrm - that should buy some infrastructure:)
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Now as long as the govt and future govts will commit funds, you'll fine... :D
 

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2nd crossing of the Toowoomba Range($680m) and rail extension($1.05 BILLION)

Logan/Ipswich mwys intersection upgrade($160m)

Total Centenary Hwy spending: $1.023 BILLION!!!!!

Pacific Mwy transit lanes between Gateway and Logan($390mill)

M1 widening between Nerang and Tugan By-pass($530mill. Total M1 spending:$660m)

BUSWAYS:
Northern: $990mill
Eastern: $700mill
South-Eastern: $25mill

Total spending on GC rail line: $1.62 BILLION!!!!!

Total spending on SC rail line: $1 billion

Total spending on Bruce Hwy: $1.2 billion

Total spending on the Joan Sheildon Memorial Goat Track(aka. Sunshine Mwy): $720m

OTHER:

State investment in dams: $266million
incl. Wyaralong Dam: $150 million

State investment in electricity transmission upgrades: $404million
State investment in bulk distribution upgrades: $3.032 Billion

State investment in Health: $1.5billion
$539.5 million on the Gold Coast (incl. new hospital--My guess, Coomera)
$609 million of the Sunshine Coast (incl. new hospital)

State investment in Schools: $1.8billion(total of 63 new schools)
$508 million on the Gold Coast (incl. 20 new schools)
$791 million on the Sunshine Coast (incl. 23 new schools)

Long-term infastructure investigations: $72.5 million
Gateway southern extension
Noosa rail connection
Trans-Apex
Southern Infastructure corridor(Road & Rail)
 

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That much on Busways?
gol-dern it.

Busways have already made sure Kippa-Ring never happens.
too bad the goat track didn't recieve more, it's a nightmare of a freeway (should've cut back on their Centenary mway spending)

oh well, at least theres a few new rail lines(in great need) that are going up. I'm happy :)
 

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It is good to see the North-South Arterial (Mango Hill), id say long term that this will link to the Joan Sheldon Memorial Goat Track (Sunshine "motorway") and the Deagon Deviation/Gateway MWY. Same can be said I believe on the South. The Logan MWY (or perhaps the Gateway) linking to the new South Eastern Corridor (aka Koala Tollway which cost the Goss Government 4 seats)
 

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Did anyone notice the $1.6 billion proposed for the parallel highway to the Pacific Motorway!!

Anyway, it's a shame there isn't more detail on inner city rail investigations. I don't have much faith in the government when it comes to rail infrastructure. I mean why spend so much money on a rail line to Springfield, when there are far more densily populated suburbs in much greater need of heavy rail???
 

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Springfield will become a major centre of activity and currently there is NO public transport out there. With the focus of redirecting population gorwth west the Springfield line is needed.
 

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http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2005/s1354496.htm

Qld Government unveils ambitious housing project
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The World Today - Wednesday, 27 April , 2005 12:22:00
Reporter: Ian Townsend
ELEANOR HALL: The Queensland Government has this morning unveiled one of the biggest housing projects this country has seen in recent times.

A short time ago, the Queensland Premier Peter Beattie and his Treasurer, Terry Mackenroth, set out a plan to re-shape Queensland's south-east corner so it can house an extra one-million people over the next 20 years.

The plan includes new schools, new railway lines, roads, bridges, and even a new dam. But it's going to cost the state $55 billion, and there are plenty of critics.

From Brisbane, Ian Townsend reports.

IAN TOWNSEND: The Queensland Government has, for a few weeks, been letting details of its south east Queensland infrastructure plan trickle out: $1.6 billion to duplicate Brisbane's Gateway Bridge; $300 million to extend two highways; $700 million to help councils connect Queensland's new residents to sewers and water pipes.

But this morning the Government's vision for the state's South-East spilled out � $55 billion and a 20 year plan for a boom town, fuelled by 1,000 new residents arriving every week.

The Queensland Premier Peter Beattie outlined the scope of this plan a short time ago.

PETER BEATTIE: This plan sets forward the strategy for the South-East corner of Queensland, and is the most significant infrastructure strategy in the history of the State. It's the most ambitious and groundbreaking plan of its type in Australia, bar none.

It's a $55 billion plan for a new south-east Queensland. It details more that 230 projects and initiatives and they cover roads, rail, schools, hospitals, dams, weirs, pipelines, powerlines and sub-stations.

And what it means is that tomorrow's children will be born in excellent hospitals and educated in well-equipped local schools.

It maps out where and how 3.7 million people will live in the south-east corner of Queensland in 20 years, and while still enjoying the lifestyle, open space and clean resources that others in Australia and in the world, envy.

IAN TOWNSEND: The plan includes dams, roads, 63 new schools, two tunnels under Brisbane, and railway lines up and down the Gold and Sunshine coasts. It might sound extraordinarily ambitious, but south-east Queensland does face a big problem that only this sort of money can prevent.

Large numbers of people are moving to Queensland. While the New South Wales Government's been complaining that Queensland's been getting more than its share of the GST windfall � a windfall which will help fund this building boom � Queensland's also been getting a share of New South Wales's population.

According to the latest bureau of statistics figures, 24,000 people from New South Wales moved to Queensland last financial year. To cope with this, Queensland's spending money now.

The Queensland Government's relatively flush with cash but it may have to borrow, says treasurer Terry Mackenroth.

TERRY MACKENROTH: The finding will come from operating cash firstly. At present and in the past three years, all government infrastructure met from the budget for government departments, have been met by operating cash.

Secondly, we will borrow. If we need to borrow, we will borrow to fund this plan. But we'll only borrow where the money borrowed can be serviced from within the operating surplus to ensure that Queensland maintains its AAA credit rating.

ELEANOR HALL: Queensland Treasurer Terry Mackenroth, ending that report from Ian Townsend in Brisbane.
 

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Did anyone notice the $1.6 billion proposed for the parallel highway to the Pacific Motorway!!
I'm not sure it's definately going to be a parallel highway. It says it's for an 'Intra-regional transport corridor.' That could be a busway or maybe just a normal road running parallel to the highway. i.e. traffic lights, 80Km/h limit ect.
 

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I beleive the 'Intra Regional Transport Corridor' is the same road that they proposed 20 years ago that was rejected in favour of koala habitat conservation and upgrading the Pacific Motorway to 8 lanes. The Intra-Regional Tranport Corridor is detailed in the UBD Brisbane 2005 Refidex. It runs parallel about 5 km east of the Pacific Motorway between Loganholme and Coomera. Then from Coomera to Nerang the corridor runs down the same path at the existing Gold Coast Rail corridor.
 

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Any Premier that announces a 20 year plan is just getting some cheap publicity all pollies pull this stunt.
A bit like all those private projects that never get built but cause a rush of blood to the head by skyscraper nerds.
Good luck but I think about half will never even be started.
 

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Except for the fact that SEQ will fall apart if they dont.
You must be aware that there are multiple problems in the Immediate future in relation to the infux of people.

The Gold Coast/Brisbane/Sunshine Coast transport plans HAVE to go ahead. The Toowoomba rail/road isnt NESSACARY, but it would help alot.

The water and other utilities are 200% nessacary. Without them we will run out of water in a year (or so that news post I posted said)


I think any other premier who has done this hasnt actually been needing it this bad.
SEQ doesnt have the infrastructre to support it. And as was said by many forumers for a long time, unless something drastic is done, we wont be able ot handle it.

Here is that something drastic




On your comment about him 'just trying to get votes'.
With the new Brisbane City Rail Tunnel plan, they did a public poll and it came out like 60/40 (Against/For)..... He said something along the lines of
"Im suprised about that outcome, but this is nessacary for Brisbane tomorow and I will still go ahead with it"
Not an exact quote.. but shows he is doing whats best for the State/City/Region instead of what people want.

(I think people voted no because of the bad publicity around the NSBT [North South Tunnel], and they thought "Another tunnel?" and voted no. Thats how most idiots operate.)
 

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I beleive the 'Intra Regional Transport Corridor' is the same road that they proposed 20 years ago that was rejected in favour of koala habitat conservation and upgrading the Pacific Motorway to 8 lanes. The Intra-Regional Tranport Corridor is detailed in the UBD Brisbane 2005 Refidex. It runs parallel about 5 km east of the Pacific Motorway between Loganholme and Coomera. Then from Coomera to Nerang the corridor runs down the same path at the existing Gold Coast Rail corridor.

It cost the Goss Government 4 seats, clinging on to a 1 seat majority, which they later lost in a byelection (Mundingburra). An independent (Liz Cunningham) then voted to support the National/Liberal Parties to form a minority government.

The ALP wanted to build the tollway and upgrade the old 4 lane Pacific Highway to 6 lanes (1 lane to be a transit lane). The Coalition wanted a new 8 lane MWY....


Note ~ During this term the then Liberal Leader scrapped tolls on the Sunshine MWY (aka Joan Sheldon Memorial Goat Track) to save her own seat.
In most places this is just a 2 lane road - not a normal 'Freeway' etc, like how old QLD roads start off as...


Google Search for "south coast tollway"

BRISBANE -- Despite the biggest anti-government rallies since Labor came to power in Queensland, the controversial South Coast Motorway is to be built. Expressions of interest will be sought from private firms to design, construct, maintain and operate the road, which is estimated to cost up to $700 million. The capital cost will be recovered from tolls set by the roadway's owners.

The regional backlash against the state government's determination to build the new road, rather than rely on upgrading the existing Pacific Highway linking Brisbane with the Gold Coast, is sure to impact on its electoral prospects. Already Logan VETO -- the local anti-motorway coalition -- has warned that five marginal seats in the tollway's path will be targeted.

In an attempt to head off the state Department of Transport's commitment to the project, VETO launched an alternative transport plan at a mass rally a month ago. Its MFM (Multi Function Motorway) proposal involved the widening of the existing Pacific corridor rather than merely upgrading it. Instead of a system of rigidly determined traffic lanes, the MFM allowed for flexible transport solutions which integrated motor vehicle traffic with a mass transit system.

The government wouldn't hear of it and vilified the alternative proposals as unviable.

At the centre of the dispute is a section of the proposed route which bisects the Daisy Hill Forest. After environmentalists and local residents insisted that such a roadway through natural habitat would decimate the unique koala population there, the government settled on the solution of building a 2.8 km tunnel -- now estimated to cost $53 million -- under the forest.

While the engineering implications of the proposed route through the forested sections are staggering, the Labor administration has not baulked at any of the problems involved. Brisbane car owners are to get their new road to the Gold Coast whether they will use it or not.

The vigorous commitment to the project may seem bizarre given the state government's willingness to concede to protests against similar planned road works elsewhere in South East Queensland. But the importance of the South Coast Motorway is the logic of its creation.

With the rationale of the Hilmer Report joyously endorsed at the recent premiers' conference, restructuring and planning in the region are very definitively geared to corporatisation. Queensland Rail is scheduled to be corporatised in June, and the local bus system is already being restructured along competitive lines: the Goss government is establishing a transport plan for south-east Queensland that rests firmly on “user pays”. Even the roadways will no longer be a free ride.

This is the message of the state government's SEQ 2001 Project, designed to put together an overall plan which will manage growth in south-east Queensland over the next 20 years.

While departmental boffins insist that change will proceed through ongoing community consultation, the bitterness of thousands of residents along the motorway's proposed route suggests a totally different process. As VETO spokesperson David Keogh told Green Left Weekly recently, “Democracy is dying. The accountability that Goss promised in 1989 is history. It's just like Son of Joh.”

VETO's campaign has been varied and imaginative. With a local mass base among residents and businesses it has organised a succession of rallies attended by thousands. In an extraordinary move for a community organisation, it invested $30,000 and employed a professional marketing company to launch its MFM proposal and run a continuing publicity campaign.

Presently, Keogh is running for a position on the council of the Royal Automobile Club of Queensland, which has backed the government's transport plan for south-east Queensland without consulting its membership.

With land resumptions along the proposed route already proceeding, it is towards the coming state election that VETO will now turn. Alone among all parliamentary parties, the ALP has committed itself to the project. On this issue, even the Liberals sound good.

It will be interesting to monitor how the electoral backlash the ALP is sure to suffer in the suburbs south of the CBD will be harnessed.
 

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why does mango hill need another arterial road when it has the bruce hwy right beside it. north-south??? that runs parallel to the bruce!
 

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^ Theres the other one going the same direction as the M1 as well.
Theyre meeting capacity.

Is the Mango hill one further west?
 
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