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just a thought,how about a sheffield proper pubs forum, so here goes, who has memory,s or has been in The Good Doctor, Netherthorpe, the red lion holly st, what was the frog and parrot called before and the pub on the opposite corner to it, both on Division St, the Brunswick its still there opposite the top of Dixon Lane,and so on .Memory,s , architecture,design etc. my favourite pub architecturally is the Punch Bowl on Gleadless Common.which i believe is of the same design as the Manor Hotel.Working mens clubs i don,t think the Arundel at Manor Top has been bettered. so any interest anyone. Cheers.:cheers:
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Mate, went to the Bellhouse tonight to watch a cover band of 80's rock and its the best night I've had in ages!

P.S. I thought Punch Bowl was a pub not a Working Mens Club (CIU)? :dunno:
I haven't been in any CIU type clubs in Sheffield. I guess it's because I was originally a student and I'd need to know an existing member before going.

I'm an old fashioned git like Muddy (no offence) - Tap room, snug etc. There aren't too many like that now - Bath Hotel, Brown Bear & Red Lion maybe. White Lion on Chesterfield Road.

On a more positive note how about High Fidelity stylee top ten lists of pubs? There must be some great ones from past holidays that I can't remember, but here's a stab.

- The Grove Inn, Huddersfield
- Fernandes Brewery Tap, Wakefield
- The Brass Monkey, Edinburgh
- The Swan, York
- The Malt Shovel, Spondon, Derby
- The Brewery Tap, Chester
- The Rashleigh Inn, Polkerris, Cornwall
- The Ship Inn, Bardsea, Cumbria
- Blind Jack's, Knaresborough
- Victoria Inn, Beeston, Nottingham

I realise there aren't any Sheffield pubs on the list; there are loads I like, but none have everything. I'd like the setting of the Rivelin Inn, with the beers of the Devonshire Cat inside a pub like the Gardener's Rest with the atmosphere of the Kelham Island Tavern. Or something. :nuts:
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Mate, went to the Bellhouse tonight to watch a cover band of 80's rock and its the best night I've had in ages!

P.S. I thought Punch Bowl was a pub not a Working Mens Club (CIU)? :dunno:
hi there ,firth parker, the punch bowl is indeed a pub and i have sugested both pubs and working mens clubs as of interest, iv,e been to bellhouse on a few occasions in the past good wmc.regards Judd
I haven't been in any CIU type clubs in Sheffield. I guess it's because I was originally a student and I'd need to know an existing member before going.

I'm an old fashioned git like Muddy (no offence) - Tap room, snug etc. There aren't too many like that now - Bath Hotel, Brown Bear & Red Lion maybe. White Lion on Chesterfield Road.

On a more positive note how about High Fidelity stylee top ten lists of pubs? There must be some great ones from past holidays that I can't remember, but here's a stab.

- The Grove Inn, Huddersfield
- Fernandes Brewery Tap, Wakefield
- The Brass Monkey, Edinburgh
- The Swan, York
- The Malt Shovel, Spondon, Derby
- The Brewery Tap, Chester
- The Rashleigh Inn, Polkerris, Cornwall
- The Ship Inn, Bardsea, Cumbria
- Blind Jack's, Knaresborough
- Victoria Inn, Beeston, Nottingham

I realise there aren't any Sheffield pubs on the list; there are loads I like, but none have everything. I'd like the setting of the Rivelin Inn, with the beers of the Devonshire Cat inside a pub like the Gardener's Rest with the atmosphere of the Kelham Island Tavern. Or something. :nuts:
the heavygate at walkley brings back memories[don,t tap the oak beams ?].
I'm an old fashioned git like Muddy (no offence) - Tap room, snug etc. There aren't too many like that now - Bath Hotel, Brown Bear & Red Lion maybe. White Lion on Chesterfield Road.
No Offence taken.
Personally I love pubs and using them. But two things have happened which means that I am not out much at present. The first being that most of my old drinking friends have lost interest now they are in their 40s. Apparently a very common condition, I am told by men I know who are of the older generations.
And the second thing is my new job means that I have very little spare money, so I can't afford to go out more than once a week especially when considering how expensive it can be nowadays.

As a student of pubs I am very keen to talk about them and how they have changed over the years. I am of the view that there is no point in becoming sentimental about pubs closing because this has always happened and the reason is that we don't need so many pubs.
Back in the 19th century, pubs were far more numerous than now, this is because the city's working class population lived in tiny slums often with just a couple of rooms. So men needed to get out of the house to relax and pubs were seen as lounges to get away from the family. Nowadays we all have lounges at home with lots of entertainment on tap, families are small and we all enjoy much more space than our great grandparents.

Also the population is much more spread out. Sheffield in the 19th century was basically within the inner ring road. So all the pubs had thousands of potential customers, whereas 200 years on, the city has spread out and many of the oldest pubs have no houses near them at all any longer.
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No Offence taken.
Personally I love pubs and using them. But two things have happened which means that I am not out much at present. The first being that most of my old drinking friends have lost interest now they are in their 40s. Apparently a very common condition, I am told by men I know who are of the older generations.
And the second thing is my new job means that I have very little spare money, so I can't afford to go out more than once a week especially when considering how expensive it can be nowadays.

As a student of pubs I am very keen to talk about them and how they have changed over the years. I am of the view that there is no point in becoming sentimental about pubs closing because this has always happened and the reason is that we don't need so many pubs.
Back in the 19th century, pubs were far more numerous than now, this is because the city's working class population lived in tiny slums often with just a couple of rooms. So men needed to get out of the house to relax and pubs were seen as lounges to get away from the family. Nowadays we all have lounges at home with lots of entertainment on tap, families are small and we all enjoy much more space than our great grandparents.

Also the population is much more spread out. Sheffield in the 19th century was basically within the inner ring road. So all the pubs had thousands of potential customers, whereas 200 years on, the city has spread out and many of the oldest pubs have no houses near them at all any longer.
well, i don,t know about lounges old boy, but as far as i can remember the pubs in the east end of sheffield ,where there primarily to serve the furnace men,i have worked in firth browns and jessup saviles, and seen pubs opening times correspond with shift patterns,also in the same works i have seen a worker dispatched to a corner pub and return with trays full of light beer usually stones, this activity took place at all times day or night despite the strict licensing times in place at that time,some pubs had particularly sporting customers, the Matilda on Matilda St was the headquarters of the pigeon flyer's, the Royal Oak at the bottom of Cemetery Road was the headquarters of the sheffield phoenix cycling club,a pub on the top left hand corner of Fitzwilliam St,i think it was called the Hornblower, or some other navel type name [help] had a boxing area in a upstairs room, and was frequented by sheffield hard men, The Earl Marshall on East Bank Road was the Midhill WMC, and i was in there one Saturday night when the chairman refused to play bingo or put the turn on until whoever was responsible went and flushed the toilet,happy days. regards Judd
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Indeed, I have also worked in a steel works and remember in the middle of the heat in the summer of 1989 the gaffers brought in a stack of stones bitter. This was because the men would work at the arc furnaces if they supped beer, even though the ambient temprature was so hot they had the right to down tools.
The management laid on a minibus to take the furnacemen home and back in to their next shift. so they didn't drink and drive when they did this.
:cheers
Indeed, I have also worked in a steel works and remember in the middle of the heat in the summer of 1989 the gaffers brought in a stack of stones bitter. This was because the men would work at the arc furnaces if they supped beer, even though the ambient temprature was so hot they had the right to down tools.
The management laid on a minibus to take the furnacemen home and back in to their next shift. so they didn't drink and drive when they did this.
cheers muddy, its good to reminisce about the old stones jungle juce.
Personally, I much prefer a nice soulless wine bar, coupled with loud obtrusive music which is neither loud enough to enjoy, nor quiet enough that you can hold a decent conversation without resorting to speaking slightly louder than is normally socially acceptable.

I also really like it when they strip old pubs out and reconfigure their internal environs away from a dual purpose dual room sort of thing to being a single room shed, ideally with a range of bland lagers on tap, and no real ale. Cos lets be honest, the only people who like real ale are bearded flip flop types who enjoy nothing but a bit of morris dancing at the weekend and live in caravans.

yes, I think that is what I most prefer.
Personally, I much prefer a nice soulless wine bar, coupled with loud obtrusive music which is neither loud enough to enjoy, nor quiet enough that you can hold a decent conversation without resorting to speaking slightly louder than is normally socially acceptable.

I also really like it when they strip old pubs out and reconfigure their internal environs away from a dual purpose dual room sort of thing to being a single room shed, ideally with a range of bland lagers on tap, and no real ale. Cos lets be honest, the only people who like real ale are bearded flip flop types who enjoy nothing but a bit of morris dancing at the weekend and live in caravans.

yes, I think that is what I most prefer.
wine bar, now let me see is there one in sheffield, i remember the old coach house in the Wicker where our lady friends would order a schooner of blue nun, and we would stand at the bar with a glass of red barrel ,very upper class. but wine bar? no never seen one here, [Benidorm yes],ha well of tu caravan,:cheers:
(hopes people get that I was being sarcastic)
The Carbrooke Hall, now that is a nice pub that has been modernized but yet still retains some of it's old character.
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The Carbrooke Hall, now that is a nice pub that has been modernized but yet still retains some of it's old character.
The Carbrook Hall, The Nailmakers, The Queens Head, The Heavygate, which is the oldest in Sheffield,

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I thought that the Heavygate had closed down. Has it opened again?
I thought the Nailmakers was the oldest pub in sheffield.
I thought it was the Queens head...
The Royal, The Tramway, the Lansdowne, the Sheldon, the Cricketers, the Bridge, the Cross Guns, the Domino, the Hind, and that one just off the Moor that I've forgot the name of, all pubs that I used to sup in as a kid that are now gone.
I thought it was the Queens head...
No because the old queen's head has not been a pub for long. Even the Dog and partridge is older than that.
The Royal, The Tramway, the Lansdowne, the Sheldon, the Cricketers, the Bridge, the Cross Guns, the Domino, the Hind, and that one just off the Moor that I've forgot the name of, all pubs that I used to sup in as a kid that are now gone.
no prizes for guessing your area of sheffield,but did you also use the hermitage, the royal oak, the pump tavern,the cremone, the yellow lion,the albion,queens rd wmc,broadfield road wmc,and my personal favourite the sheaf house.
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