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People on the continent are annoyed, so you see province stickers more and more. What's a Peugeot :dunno:
 

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People are going to accept the Euro project when they want to. Things like this won't make a blind bit of difference. We will remain individual nations until people realise we have to stick together to survive in tomorrow's world and the idea will continue to fail. A shame because Europe is the only thing that can take on the USA, and China once its achived its objectives. Its also the only thing pulling our politicians out of USA's arse.
 

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Actually, I didn't realize there was an issue with these tags. All they do is denote the nation a car is registered in, which is helpful if they cross borders. When a UK driver crosses into the rest of Europe, if they don't have these tags on, I was under the impression they had to put a sticker on the back of their car with UK written on it.

These tags on the licence plate simply save that time and effort. If there is an issue, what is the grounds of it?
 

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There's no way I'm having that horrible EU fascist emblem on my car.

I would just cover the blue bit up with a sticker. :yes:
 

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^ ok, so other than people who simply hate the concept of the EU, are there any logical reasons to not want this symbol on a license plate?
 

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^ ok, so other than people who simply hate the concept of the EU, are there any logical reasons to not want this symbol on a license plate?
That is logical, would Irish people want the Union Jack on their number plates.

There number of people who hate the EU are growing in the UK and do not want EU icons on our car number plates.
 

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There number of people who hate the EU are growing in the UK and do not want EU icons on our car number plates.
i suspect, that the amount of people who hate anything different from them is as small as it always was. The tories proved that with their keep the pound nonsence. Nobody gave a shit.

Most people dont really mind either way, if the EU brings good things then why not. 15 years ago, we could not work in the eu without a permit now we can. our job market as indidivuals has increased enormously. i dont really seriously understand what the eu haters want? perhaps they think that britain is superior and should be kept seperate. Let me explain, britain, does not give a shit about an individual. the only thing that matters is that as individuals we have more access to a better lifestyle, which we do now we have the relaxation of border restrictions.

plus, i think the numberplate looks better with the EU symbol, gives it more contrast. US numberplates still the best though.
 

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I don't mind either way, its not a big consideration I have about a car. What I would object to is the idea that it should be compulsory (or alternatively prohibited). I'd to whatever the opposite demand of the government was. Its a stupid thread, if something doesn't effect others it should be left up to choice:

Should murder be compulsory? No
Should murder be prohibited? Yes

Should tags on cars be compulsory? No
Should tags on cars be prohibited? No
 

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i suspect, that the amount of people who hate anything different from them is as small as it always was. The tories proved that with their keep the pound nonsence. Nobody gave a shit.
I find that reply offensive, it implies that I hate people who are different to me.

I just hate the control freaks in Brussels with their control, constant meddling and soft socialist view of the world.
 

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^ If you believe that a simple tag on your car, which shows your nation is the UK and of obvious benefit when travelling abroad is "constant control meddling" then maybe you are taking some things in life far too seriously.

The tag system is of great benefit when driving through another country. Obviously, in continental Europe, where land borders are plenty, more people do actually cross a border with their cars. In border regions, people may do this daily, in other area's less frequent. In the UK which is an island, it is even less common, but it is still done. You don't find the ferry terminals along the UK coast void of vehicles.

So why the big issue? From reading your posts, it seems the problem is in your head. How much stress can the letters "UK" with an Euro flag above it be? How much freedom have you lost in reality? And how much easier for when you want to drive your UK car across to the continent? (No need to deface it with those big oval stickers)... and besides, it lets everyone know you're a from Britain ;)
 

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what about the control freaks in westminster, with their control, constant meddling?

at the end of the day it makes no difference which bunch of idiots are in charge, westminster or brussels. the only thing that matters is that as individuals we have more freedom of choice about how to live our lives. i think the EU provides more of that than it takes away. not always but on the whole.

to be frank, i dont really think their is an argument for not being part of the EU. there may be arguments about taking a leading role, but not one about not taking part. If people can get so angry and irate about a stupid symbol on a number plate, they should really ask themselves if it is not the EU, but themselves that are the problem
 

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Karate_Kev said:
to be frank, i dont really think their is an argument for not being part of the EU. there may be arguments about taking a leading role, but not one about not taking part. If people can get so angry and irate about a stupid symbol on a number plate, they should really ask themselves if it is not the EU, but them that are the problem
The difference with UK government control is I can vote out Tony Blair and his New Labour government in an election. The EU has no such mandate.

Symbols matter to a lot of people. I don't want a fascist EU sticker on my car and it should be my right not to have one.

If Karate Kev you feel so confident about how great the EU is, then you will be happy to let the people in the United Kingdom have a referendum on whether there UK should stop being a nation and instead become a state within the EU.

I'm happy with a free trade association, but I don't want to be ruled by the EU.
 

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^ If you believe that a simple tag on your car, which shows your nation is the UK and of obvious benefit when travelling abroad is "constant control meddling" then maybe you are taking some things in life far too seriously.
Not really Justme, it represents the constant growth of the EU in our lives with out the people giving their consented to it. Where is the mandate for this, who in the UK said "do you know what would make my life better is if we had an EU flag on all number plates".

The more the EU does this, the more people get frustrated that we have no right to say enough and no more.
 

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the eu is the only thing that can challenge the usa and the future india's and china's. i'm all for it as i dont remember the imaginarly time in the 1970's when the whole of the uk looked like poundbury aka i think the benefits are very strong
 

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Not really Justme, it represents the constant growth of the EU in our lives with out the people giving their consented to it. Where is the mandate for this, who in the UK said "do you know what would make my life better is if we had an EU flag on all number plates".

The more the EU does this, the more people get frustrated that we have no right to say enough and no more.

Point 1) No, it represents what country your car is registered in, that is all. It may represent something else in your mind, but that is your personal thoughts. In reality, it simply shows that your car is registered in the UK.

Point 2) Is it so important that it must become a political issue? I think you are taking this far too seriously. It is simply a symbol on your license plate that denotes what country your car is registered in. And yes, when travelling abroad this is important. It is far more unusual to make a issue with this, than simply having it.

If you were walking down a street, and a car swiped you, but it was from another part of Europe, how would you know simply by looking at the license plate, with the tag, you could tell the police the license number and say it was an Italian, German, French car etc.

It does seem logical that in a single economic market, where people travel frequently between countries that this is a good idea.

There is no way in the world I am going to change your mind, so I won't even bother. You are entitled to think what you want, but I still can't imagine what it must be like to be a person who gets so wound up that such a small symbol may appear on their license plates.

Life is too short to waste on these obsessions.
 

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the eu is the only thing that can challenge the usa and the future india's and china's. i'm all for it as i dont remember the imaginarly time in the 1970's when the whole of the uk looked like poundbury aka i think the benefits are very strong
How can the EU hope to challange China when France can't even change it's own employment laws.

We shouldn't be afraid of countries like India or China, we need to embrace them. Forget fortress Europe, I want international free trade, I want open markets for processed goods from the third world, the EU has already shown this will never happen as they are obsessed with protecting state infested industries in France and other EU members.
 

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We shouldn't be afraid of countries like India or China, we need to embrace them. Forget fortress Europe
we?

there is no we, zim. Britain does not care about you, me or anyone else in here. forget your idea that you are part of something called britain.

the only thing that is important is that as individuals we can determine our own lives, and it is easier to do that now you dont have to have work permits, visas and all the rest of that bullshit, at least within the EU.

if you want to sit at home and wave your union jack, fine. but remember nobody cares and nobody is going to reward you for it.
 

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(..) if they cross borders.
Thing is, the EU is set to ignore the existence of borders.

My objection is that my road tax goes to my national government and there's no reason I should abide to an EU law on this. I would, provided the money would go to 'Brussels', who are much less wasters than Zimf makes them out to be. At leat representatives in Brussels received vote unlike the peer sponsors of the House of Turds, aka HoL.
 
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