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My dad used to tell me about how people from former Yugoslavia used to travel to Trieste, Italy in thousands every year. Slovenian border to Italy and Austria is largely made up of mountains and it´s not easy to watch over.
I was wondering how it was in the "old" days? I would imagine that people would be hiking in the mountains and without noticing cross the border. How was border control back then, did people who lived in the area close to the border travel often to Italy or Austria? I find it very interesting that in the past one could change from "east to west" quite easily? Was there ever some sort of illegal trade with necesities from Italy and Austria that were missing in Yug?
A lot of questions, I know...it´s very interesting.
 

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:lol: :lol: :lol: Man, we used border-crossings, and travelled to Trieste by cars and buses, not hiking in the mountains, so no-one could see us.:lol: It's true though that it was illegal to buy too much without declaring it, so if you bought clothes, you wore them all.:D :D :D
 

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Umm, well, there was smuggling, yup, like we smuggled our VCR over the border in the late 80s, cuz we couldn't bring it in.. :D

But people also brought in stuff legally, however, it was very discouraged, customs officers treated you almost like criminals, basically. Yes, travelling was normal, and the border in the mountains was arranged with the Treaty of Osimo. Basically you could step over the border, but you had to return to the country you came from, if I understand correctly.

I hope someone who is a bit older can give you more detailed answers.. :)
 

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As far back as I can remember we never had any problems buying stuff in Italy. But then again I understood very little back then (I'm not that old either) Tho I do remember we used to smugle whiskey around a lot :D from Italy, other than that - clothes and all... no problem. Maybe it's because we used those local border crossings since we practically live on the border anyway...
 

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I think that can be the case with Romania suring the era of Ceaucescu. He was the one that never allowed anyone out. Yugoslavs were fine in that time. But I think you still asked a good question. Also was Trieste part of Yugoslavia. I Think it was but, Italians stole it.
 

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I see that you can look back on that time in the past with a sense of humor about it. Was it possible to work legally in Italy or Austria and commute every day?
 

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Well maybe in the 80's and 90's... but the border only trully opened somewhere in the early 70's if I'm not mistaken.. and even then the number of passings trough were limited... I'll ask my grandparents when i get the chance
 

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They worked in Canada and the us. I met one Croation dude in Toronto. He used to paint some houses in 1987-1989. He told me the airplanes were packed.
 

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I was looking local political representation in Trieste area, there are few parties that represent slovenians in that part of Italy. There are also schools that teach in slovenian.
I thought that Yug got a smaller part of the cake in 1945 when it comes to drawing land borders, I think even Tito wanted to get to Trieste before allied troops.
 

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Exactly. Since when did people from the former Yugoslav republics become criminals overnight :eek:hno:
One thing we can all agree on, the Western World made us all look like savages during the 1990s, now I am not going into politics of the time, but the decadent and "civilized" West such as what we have in Canada asks citizens of most countries in the area if they are war criminals or not, and their where abouts from 1990-1995 before giving them a visa :puke:
 

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One thing we can all agree on, the Western World made us all look like savages during the 1990s, now I am not going into politics of the time, but the decadent and "civilized" West such as what we have in Canada asks citizens of most countries in the area if they are war criminals or not, and their where abouts from 1990-1995 before giving them a visa :puke:
That is part 1. Part 2 is Romania and Bg joining EU.
 

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^^ It's not their fault, if parts of ex-Yu are having hard times. And a country doesn't have to be rich to enter EU; the economic criteria, which a candidate country has to fulfill, only require you to be a market economy. If that's what you were having in mind.
 

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^^Yes, that is true. Nowhere does it say you have to be wealthy to join the EU. You can be as wealthy as you want and still not meet the requirements (for example were the UAE (Dubai!) be a European country, they would fail miserabely).
 

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All you said is true but, with Balkan states that is not the case. Keep in mind that some of Balkan states can't wait to run away in EU.
 

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^^ It's not their fault, if parts of ex-Yu are having hard times. And a country doesn't have to be rich to enter EU; the economic criteria, which a candidate country has to fulfill, only require you to be a market economy. If that's what you were having in mind.

Can you elaborate a few details on Slovenian and Croatian border.

rECENTLY I always find that kind of topic in Cro forums:

http://forum.net.hr/thread.jspa?threadID=375267&tstart=0
 

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Basically it's just that parts of the border weren't set clearly because it was just a provincial border at the time. So we got problems today. That's all there is.
 
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