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Here's the figures for all the ACSA airports for October. An excellent month for Durban - particularly the large increase in international pax considering Emirates was flying here last Oct. JNB handled its largest number of international pax ever for a single month.



Totals for the last 12 months:



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so that twit novak stating Durban will get less traffic due to the airport move is sort of Bullshit.

Also if the international volumes are up does that mean EK is getting better yields on their flights as they havent upgraded their flights for more capacity?
 

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so that twit novak stating Durban will get less traffic due to the airport move is sort of Bullshit.

Also if the international volumes are up does that mean EK is getting better yields on their flights as they havent upgraded their flights for more capacity?
I would like to see them change to 777-300 this year. They are going to reach plateau otherwise. I will only fly them if i have to now as i am tired of the crap plane they use.

And yes "Mr Comair" only ever really talks crap. He should be mates with Julius!
 

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Can GregPz maybe just clarify for us exactly what these figures all include.
Is it just scheduled flights, or does it include unscheduled flights as well (as is available on ACSA site). On the smaller airports the unscheduled pax does sometimes have an impact on the figures, and I think this include any little aircraft landing at the airports with 1 or 2 people onboard.
 

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The total figure does include unscheduled pax. It does have more of an impact on stats for the smaller airport. George in particular has a higher proportion on unscheduled pax.
 

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Bloemfontein has less passenger numbers than George and EL? WOW!
 

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Main reason ofcourse being closer to JNB.
Even though BFN might handle more scheduled flights than GRJ, the majority is with smaller aircraft. Only 2 daily flights weekdays is with Mango 737-800 aircraft, the rest is mostly 37 and 50-seater aircraft and a few 74-seaters Q400s of SAX.
While GRJ receives at least 3 daily 150+seater flights (Fri and Sun 5 ), 3 daily 70-seater CR7, 1x 94-seater BAe and then only 3 37-seater ERJ aircraft.
 

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ya it makes sense. Also a reason Durban is so much lower - its easy to drive from Gauteng to Durbs/KZN so flying is just an option for tourists, not a necessity like when going to Cape Town
 

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If many flights to CT from Europe or other long haul destinations are "full" or "packed" does this mean they are using fewer planes or flights or that there is more demand?

Surely not all airlines have to use all the "slots" or "spots" allocated to them but at the same time would they rather not run 1 full plane than 2 half empty planes?

Or is the fact that flights are booked or made available well in advance a means of preventing this?

I know domestically, it seems that at times flights are just delayed for an hour or so, so that 1 plane is used rather than the two scheduled flights.
 

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This season (Nov'10-Mar'11) in comparison to last season (Nov'09-Mar'10) is very much the same at CPT:
SAA flights to LHR is operated with the same aircraft (A342), same frequency.
Virgin operating daily with A340-600 over Dec/Jan, infact for Nov,Feb and Mar they're operating 5 instead of 4 weekly.
Lufthansa is daily but with 747-400, last year was A340-600, so small capacity increase.
KLM is still daily with same aircraft, 777-200ER
BA again operating 13x weekly, 7x 744 and 6x 772.
LTU I think is operating 2x weekly instead of 3x.
So no major differences.

For next season (Nov'11-Mar'12) there is already a few changes notable:
BA seems to be planning 13x weekly again, but all 747-400, changing the 2nd flight back to a daylight return, departing CPT around 08:00am
SAA ofcourse bringing in the A330-200, so slight capacity decrease.
Virgin plans to start services middle-October, about 2 weeks earlier with A340-300 3x weekly, November with A340-600 5x and Dec/Jan daily.
 

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If many flights to CT from Europe or other long haul destinations are "full" or "packed" does this mean they are using fewer planes or flights or that there is more demand?

Surely not all airlines have to use all the "slots" or "spots" allocated to them but at the same time would they rather not run 1 full plane than 2 half empty planes?

Or is the fact that flights are booked or made available well in advance a means of preventing this?

I know domestically, it seems that at times flights are just delayed for an hour or so, so that 1 plane is used rather than the two scheduled flights.
We will soon see as the December ACSA figures should be available this week.

November was bad for Cape Town on the international front with -2,7% decline. Here's hoping the reports of December improvement by the press are in fact true, but then again the hotels did say the first two weeks of Dec trade were poor.

It seems though that all 3 of our main airports will have a good December.
 

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Its just that quite a few people on different flights from Europe say that quite a few flights are fully booked.

This may not translate into giant increases but 100% sold is better than 85% or 70%.
 
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