Without Shaq the Miami Heat would just be the Miami Warmth.
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Okay, so now you Miamians can go back to the teams you normally root for. :runaway: 
I was gonna say next year's Eastern Conference Finals is gonna be Orlando Magic - Miami Heat but ... naaaaaaaaaaa. Too Easy. We need a better bench. Shaq had 29 points and Wade played injured. Pistons are in the finals for only one reason. They played an injured Miami Heat. That's It. Damon Jones had 0 points. Eddie Jones was a disaster, and Dooling was running like there was no tomorrow. We need to look for players that can score come crush time. Someone else other than Shaq and Wade.
NBA FINALS: San Antonio 4 Detroit 1.
GO HEAT!!!
NBA FINALS: San Antonio 4 Detroit 1.
GO HEAT!!!
*sigh* we lost.
despite not making the finals, though, it was a great & fun season. now let's get healthy & win it all next year!
despite not making the finals, though, it was a great & fun season. now let's get healthy & win it all next year!
Yea if Shaq & Wade were 100% I can safely say Miami would have taken that series. I do feel Miami needs more balanced scoring however. They look lost when Wade & Shaq are on the bench. They only need 1 more strong offensive threat to come off the bench & be their "sixth man", ala Ginobili. With that, Miami will be a championship team, as long as all their key players can stay healthy. Next season will be exciting no doubt.
Despite everything I said... GO MAGIC!!
Despite everything I said... GO MAGIC!!
in my defense... i really dont care much for basketball, more of a fins/ fish fan... and ive said that we shouldnt have traded for shaq when we mad the trade before the season started, during the season when we were winning, and when we were winning in the playoffsbrickell said:you're smoking something right?
you would rather earn a 5 seed and bow out in the 2nd roud?
the best record in the conference isn't good enough for you?
odom, grant and butler are obviously pushing the lakers over the top.
I hate whiny sports fans. The Heat had a great season and were one game away from the NBA finals. That's apparently not good enough for you.
Jones is fine and virtually untradeable. Next year should be just as fun. Players will be coming from all over just to play with Shaq and Wade.
we gave up our future for two, mayb three good years (wat shaq has left in him)... with our team before, with one or two years or development, we would have one of the most complete teams in the nba, and kept it goin for a decade, and coulda been the bulls of our decade... but like i said, dont no that much about basketball just wat i think
so even tho i dont really care, still hurts to see a home team lose, and next year well have em all healthy and take the finals from those motor city bitches
well all my hate wasn't all in your direction really. just a little frustrated by the talk around town.
like him or not, shaq is the most dominant player in the game today. just having him on the team probably progressed wade 2 or 3 years in terms of big game experience. i liked odom and caron, but i honestly don't think they were the keys to the puzzle. it would have been a good team, but not the great team we saw this year. that's just my opinion though.
i agree about next year.
ps... florida marlins fall from first to last place. what a killer division we're in.
like him or not, shaq is the most dominant player in the game today. just having him on the team probably progressed wade 2 or 3 years in terms of big game experience. i liked odom and caron, but i honestly don't think they were the keys to the puzzle. it would have been a good team, but not the great team we saw this year. that's just my opinion though.
i agree about next year.
ps... florida marlins fall from first to last place. what a killer division we're in.
now ur talkin about my sport... these past few weeks have been brutal... lowell, pierre, and lo duca gotta step it up and prove to be the bats that they once were... and leiter better get his shit together... when valdez gets bak, i say put him in for leiter and leave in moehler whos pitching great, hes just not gettin the run support that he needs...brickell said:ps... florida marlins fall from first to last place. what a killer division we're in.
we're a world series caliber team, if we start to click like we were at the beggining of the season when we have a comfortable lead in first of our division, but we gotta step it back up, cause were def in the toughest league in all of baseball...
The Marlins are a much better stacked team than anyone in their division, why haven't they pulled away? If going to win the division their going to hurry up because everyone else will be making moves at the trade deadline next month.
nimbyhater said:now ur talkin about my sport... these past few weeks have been brutal... lowell, pierre, and lo duca gotta step it up and prove to be the bats that they once were... and leiter better get his shit together... when valdez gets bak, i say put him in for leiter and leave in moehler whos pitching great, hes just not gettin the run support that he needs...
we're a world series caliber team, if we start to click like we were at the beggining of the season when we have a comfortable lead in first of our division, but we gotta step it back up, cause were def in the toughest league in all of baseball...
i don't think its one persons fault,i think its the whole teams fault.
we've been losing because we haven't been scoring any runs,also because are getting to many errors,are relievers suck ass.... and are starting pitching cooled off from how they were at the beginning of the year.
hopefully we get shit str8 becuase we've lost i believe 10 out of the last 13
Well, at least they have a strong Cy Young candidate in Dontrelle Willis.
10 wins and counting...
I think he should get the start in the All-Star game in July. He has been better overall than Pedro Martinez in New York.
the heat yesterday signed shaq and also signed udonis haslem.nothing at alll compared to what is expected to be the biggest trade of the offseason when
(sf)eddie jones gets traded to memphis for jason williams,james posey,and player to be named later,the heat are then expected to trade for antoine walker.
this trade is suppose to be announced soon
(sf)eddie jones gets traded to memphis for jason williams,james posey,and player to be named later,the heat are then expected to trade for antoine walker.
this trade is suppose to be announced soon
in an unrelated note fish lose last night 3 to 1,but have been playing good over the last 10 games
Largest trade in NBA history sends Antoine Walker to Miami
By TIM REYNOLDS, AP Sports Writer
August 2, 2005
MIAMI (AP) -- In the largest trade in NBA history, Antoine Walker was dealt from Boston to Miami on Tuesday night in a transaction involving five teams and 13 players.
The Heat also acquired point guard Jason Williams and small forward James Posey from Memphis, while the Grizzlies received guard Eddie Jones from the Heat. The New Orleans Hornets and Utah Jazz were also involved in the deal.
The trade was larger than a 12-player, four-team deal in 2000 involving Patrick Ewing that had been the biggest in league history.
Miami also received Andre Emmett from Memphis and the draft rights to Roberto Duenas of Spain from the Hornets; Utah received Greg Ostertag from Memphis; Boston picked up Curtis Borchardt from Utah and a package -- Qyntel Woods, the draft rights to Spanish center Albert Miralles, two second-round draft picks and cash -- from Miami; New Orleans acquired Rasual Butler from Miami and Kirk Snyder from Utah; and the Grizzlies received guard Raul Lopez from the Jazz.
Hours after signing Shaquille O'Neal to a five-year deal, the Heat added three significant pieces to a roster that nearly reached the NBA Finals last season.
``We traded a lot, but we got back three quality players,'' said Heat president Pat Riley. ``Antoine Walker is one of the very best multi-faceted, versatile players in this game. ... He is able to handle the ball, pass it, make plays, shoot 3's and rebound the ball. There isn't anyone in this league better at doing that.''
Walker, a three-time All-Star, figures to become the starting small forward and would be backed up by Posey, one of the league's better defenders.
Walker signed a six-year deal worth nearly $53 million with Boston as part of the deal's preliminary framework, and agent Mark Bartelstein said he appreciated the Celtics' willingness to help out their longtime forward.
``Antoine is thrilled,'' Bartelstein said. ``This was a grueling process trying to put a sign-and-trade together. This took a lot of time and work and energy from a lot of people.''
Williams would take over as Miami's starting point guard if Damon Jones leaves as a free agent.
Eddie Jones exits Miami after five years with the Heat.
``I spoke to him and he's appreciative of the five great years he's had in Miami,'' agent Leon Rose said. ``He's proud that he's helped build something, although it's unfortunate that he won't be able to see it to fruition. But he wishes the organization nothing but the best.''
Riley wished the three players leaving Miami well, especially Eddie Jones, whom he called ``the consummate professional through thick and thin.''
``I know he had fun and he was a major part of this,'' Riley said. ``But in order to get something good back, you have to give up something good going out. I wish him nothing but the best.''
Memphis acquired Borchardt earlier Tuesday in a deal in which Sacramento got Bonzi Wells from the Grizzlies in exchange for guard Bobby Jackson and Ostertag.
The Hornets did not give up any players under contract in the megatrade, which was approved by league officials late Tuesday night.
``Our cap flexibility is what allowed us to get these two players as part of this deal,'' Hornets general manager Allan Bristow said. ``We were able to acquire two young, quality players while only giving up the rights to a player who has never appeared in a Hornets uniform.''
Walker, who averaged 19.1 points and nine rebounds last season for Atlanta and Boston, will be a welcome addition to the Heat, said forward Udonis Haslem -- who formally signed his $30.7 million, five-year deal Tuesday.
``We're two different players and we can bring two different things to the table,'' Haslem said, a few hours before the trade got done. ``If we put that together, we should have a pretty good tandem.''
Miami reached Game 7 of the Eastern Conference finals this past season -- even though O'Neal and Dwyane Wade were both hurt at the time. And not only was Jones a starter on that team, he was the Heat's best perimeter defender -- a role that Heat president Pat Riley and coach Stan Van Gundy have long valued.
Eddie Jones, a career 16.4-point-per-game scorer, averaged 12.7 in the regular season and 13.7 in the playoffs as Miami's third option.
``Eddie Jones is an All-Star caliber player who has had a terrific NBA career. He is a great 3-point shooter who will make an immediate impact on our offense, while also serving as a solid defender in the backcourt. We look forward to Eddie finishing his NBA career in Memphis,'' Grizzlies president Jerry West said.
Williams averaged 10.1 points and 5.6 assists for the Grizzlies last season. Riley likened his playmaking ability to Steve Nash and Jason Kidd.
``He is a very athletic, quick, explosive scorer and has great experience,'' Riley said. ``One of the reasons why we are making the trade is that we haven't had anyone here like that since Tim Hardaway left.''
Posey was limited to 50 games this past season because of injuries, and only 18 starts. He averaged 8.1 points and 4.4 rebounds.
The trade capped a flurry of activity by the Heat -- who moved quickly once the league's moratorium on player signings expired Tuesday at noon EDT.
O'Neal was signed to a $100 million contract; the move was expected, although the contract was considerably smaller than what O'Neal figured to command.
Haslem said the team has full confidence in whatever personnel choices Riley and general manager Randy Pfund make.
``Since I've been here, they've made great decisions,'' Haslem said. ``And I'm sure they'll make the right decision here.''
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-five-teamtrade&prov=ap&type=lgns
By TIM REYNOLDS, AP Sports Writer
August 2, 2005
MIAMI (AP) -- In the largest trade in NBA history, Antoine Walker was dealt from Boston to Miami on Tuesday night in a transaction involving five teams and 13 players.
The Heat also acquired point guard Jason Williams and small forward James Posey from Memphis, while the Grizzlies received guard Eddie Jones from the Heat. The New Orleans Hornets and Utah Jazz were also involved in the deal.
The trade was larger than a 12-player, four-team deal in 2000 involving Patrick Ewing that had been the biggest in league history.
Miami also received Andre Emmett from Memphis and the draft rights to Roberto Duenas of Spain from the Hornets; Utah received Greg Ostertag from Memphis; Boston picked up Curtis Borchardt from Utah and a package -- Qyntel Woods, the draft rights to Spanish center Albert Miralles, two second-round draft picks and cash -- from Miami; New Orleans acquired Rasual Butler from Miami and Kirk Snyder from Utah; and the Grizzlies received guard Raul Lopez from the Jazz.
Hours after signing Shaquille O'Neal to a five-year deal, the Heat added three significant pieces to a roster that nearly reached the NBA Finals last season.
``We traded a lot, but we got back three quality players,'' said Heat president Pat Riley. ``Antoine Walker is one of the very best multi-faceted, versatile players in this game. ... He is able to handle the ball, pass it, make plays, shoot 3's and rebound the ball. There isn't anyone in this league better at doing that.''
Walker, a three-time All-Star, figures to become the starting small forward and would be backed up by Posey, one of the league's better defenders.
Walker signed a six-year deal worth nearly $53 million with Boston as part of the deal's preliminary framework, and agent Mark Bartelstein said he appreciated the Celtics' willingness to help out their longtime forward.
``Antoine is thrilled,'' Bartelstein said. ``This was a grueling process trying to put a sign-and-trade together. This took a lot of time and work and energy from a lot of people.''
Williams would take over as Miami's starting point guard if Damon Jones leaves as a free agent.
Eddie Jones exits Miami after five years with the Heat.
``I spoke to him and he's appreciative of the five great years he's had in Miami,'' agent Leon Rose said. ``He's proud that he's helped build something, although it's unfortunate that he won't be able to see it to fruition. But he wishes the organization nothing but the best.''
Riley wished the three players leaving Miami well, especially Eddie Jones, whom he called ``the consummate professional through thick and thin.''
``I know he had fun and he was a major part of this,'' Riley said. ``But in order to get something good back, you have to give up something good going out. I wish him nothing but the best.''
Memphis acquired Borchardt earlier Tuesday in a deal in which Sacramento got Bonzi Wells from the Grizzlies in exchange for guard Bobby Jackson and Ostertag.
The Hornets did not give up any players under contract in the megatrade, which was approved by league officials late Tuesday night.
``Our cap flexibility is what allowed us to get these two players as part of this deal,'' Hornets general manager Allan Bristow said. ``We were able to acquire two young, quality players while only giving up the rights to a player who has never appeared in a Hornets uniform.''
Walker, who averaged 19.1 points and nine rebounds last season for Atlanta and Boston, will be a welcome addition to the Heat, said forward Udonis Haslem -- who formally signed his $30.7 million, five-year deal Tuesday.
``We're two different players and we can bring two different things to the table,'' Haslem said, a few hours before the trade got done. ``If we put that together, we should have a pretty good tandem.''
Miami reached Game 7 of the Eastern Conference finals this past season -- even though O'Neal and Dwyane Wade were both hurt at the time. And not only was Jones a starter on that team, he was the Heat's best perimeter defender -- a role that Heat president Pat Riley and coach Stan Van Gundy have long valued.
Eddie Jones, a career 16.4-point-per-game scorer, averaged 12.7 in the regular season and 13.7 in the playoffs as Miami's third option.
``Eddie Jones is an All-Star caliber player who has had a terrific NBA career. He is a great 3-point shooter who will make an immediate impact on our offense, while also serving as a solid defender in the backcourt. We look forward to Eddie finishing his NBA career in Memphis,'' Grizzlies president Jerry West said.
Williams averaged 10.1 points and 5.6 assists for the Grizzlies last season. Riley likened his playmaking ability to Steve Nash and Jason Kidd.
``He is a very athletic, quick, explosive scorer and has great experience,'' Riley said. ``One of the reasons why we are making the trade is that we haven't had anyone here like that since Tim Hardaway left.''
Posey was limited to 50 games this past season because of injuries, and only 18 starts. He averaged 8.1 points and 4.4 rebounds.
The trade capped a flurry of activity by the Heat -- who moved quickly once the league's moratorium on player signings expired Tuesday at noon EDT.
O'Neal was signed to a $100 million contract; the move was expected, although the contract was considerably smaller than what O'Neal figured to command.
Haslem said the team has full confidence in whatever personnel choices Riley and general manager Randy Pfund make.
``Since I've been here, they've made great decisions,'' Haslem said. ``And I'm sure they'll make the right decision here.''
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-five-teamtrade&prov=ap&type=lgns
miami's to do list
1.win championship-------still pending
2.sign shaq---------------done
3.get rid of eddie jones----done
4.long term contract wade-still pending
4 1/2-get a proven scorer-done
5.acquire another guard----done
6.get a 6th man-----------done
7.sign udonis haslem ------done
8.sign dmon jones----------still pending
9.change banner outside triple a-still pending
10. save some money on car insurance-still pending
1.win championship-------still pending
2.sign shaq---------------done
3.get rid of eddie jones----done
4.long term contract wade-still pending
4 1/2-get a proven scorer-done
5.acquire another guard----done
6.get a 6th man-----------done
7.sign udonis haslem ------done
8.sign dmon jones----------still pending
9.change banner outside triple a-still pending
10. save some money on car insurance-still pending
What is the latest on the Marlins possible move? I heard a few months ago that it was a done deal and they were going to Las Vegas, but I don't think that is true. Any word? Is it no longer being talked about?
Mad Uptown HatterThe Mad Hatter!! said:miami's to do list
1.win championship-------still pending
2.sign shaq---------------done
3.get rid of eddie jones----done
4.long term contract wade-still pending
4 1/2-get a proven scorer-done
5.acquire another guard----done
6.get a 6th man-----------done
7.sign udonis haslem ------done
8.sign dmon jones----------still pending
9.change banner outside triple a-still pending
10. save some money on car insurance-still pending
, good list , but forgot one, 11. Illegal Mexican workers want more pay cash per hour----still pending, lol,. :cheers:
PeterSmith said:What is the latest on the Marlins possible move? I heard a few months ago that it was a done deal and they were going to Las Vegas, but I don't think that is true. Any word? Is it no longer being talked about?
they aint goin anywhere... the old cuban guys in guayaberras with a fat cigar in hand would storm couty hall and chase people down until the money is put up for a marlins stadium, preferably with a big cuban flag on one side... they go crazy for LOS MARLEENS!
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