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Here are the growth rates for Southern MSAs from 2000-2005, as listed here. For the sake of brevity, I have only used the principal city of the MSA in the list instead of the official designation of the Census Bureau (e.g., Houston instead of Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown).


MSAs of 1 million+ residents
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MSA                      2000 pop.         2005 pop.          Change
Atlanta                  4,247,981         4,917,717            15.8%
Austin                   1,249,763         1,452,529            16.2%
Birmingham               1,052,238         1,090,126            3.6%
Charlotte                1,330,448         1,521,278            14.3%
Dallas                   5,161,544         5,819,475            12.7%
Houston                  4,715,407         5,280,077            12.0%
Jacksonville             1,122,750         1,248,371            11.2%
Louisville               1,161,975         1,208,452            4.0%
Memphis                  1,205,204         1,260,905            4.6%
Miami                    5,007,564         5,422,200            8.3%
Nashville                1,311,789         1,422,544            8.4%  
New Orleans              1,316,510         1,319,367            0.2% 
Oklahoma City            1,095,421         1,156,812            5.6%
Orlando                  1,644,561         1,933,255            17.6%
Richmond                 1,096,957         1,175,654            7.2%
San Antonio              1,711,703         1,889,797            10.4%
Tampa                    2,395,997         2,647,658            10.5%
Virginia Beach           1,576,370         1,647,346            4.5%
MSAs of 500,000-1 million residents
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MSA                      2000 pop.         2005 pop.          Change
Augusta                  499,684            520,332             4.1%
Baton Rouge              705,973            733,802             3.9%
Cape Coral               440,888            544,758             23.6%
Charleston               549,033            594,899             8.4%
Columbia                 647,158            689,878             6.6%
El Paso                  679,622            721,598             6.2%
Greensboro               643,430            674,500             4.8%
Greenville               559,940            591,251             5.6%
Jackson                  497,197            522,580             5.1%
Knoxville                616,079            655,400             6.4%
Lakeland, FL             483,924            542,912             12.2%
Little Rock              610,518            643,272             5.4%
McAllen, TX              569,463            678,275             19.1%
Palm Bay, FL             476,230            531,250             11.6%
Raleigh                  797,071            949,681             19.1%
Sarasota                 589,959            673,035             14.1%
Tulsa                    859,532            887,715             3.3%
MSAs of 250,000-500,000 residents
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MSA                      2000 pop.         2005 pop.          Change
Asheville                369,171            392,831             6.4%
Beaumont, TX             385,090            383,530            -0.4%
Brownsville, TX          335,227            378,311             12.9%
Charleston, WV           309,635            306,435            -1.0%
Chattanooga              476,531            492,126             3.3%
Columbus                 281,768            284,299             0.9%
Corpus Christi           403,280            413,553             2.5%
Deltona, FL              443,343            490,055             10.5%
Durham                   426,493            456,187             7.0%
Fayetteville, AR         347,045            405,101             16.7%
Fayetteville, NC         336,609            345,536             2.7%
Fort Smith, AR           273,170            284,994             4.3%
Gulfport                 246,190            255,383             3.7%
Hickory, NC              341,851            355,654             4.0%
Huntington, WV           288,649            286,012            -0.9%
Huntsville               342,376            368,661             7.7%
Kingsport, TN            298,484            301,294             0.9%
Killeen, TX              330,714            351,528             6.3%
Lexington                408,326            429,889             5.3%
Lubbock, TX              249,700            258,970             3.7%
Mobile                   399,843            401,427             0.4%
Montgomery               346,528            357,244             3.1%
Naples                   251,377            307,242             22.2%
Pensacola                412,153            439,877             6.7%
Roanoke                  288,309            292,983             1.6%
Savannah                 293,000            313,883             7.1%
Shreveport               375,965            383,233             1.9%
Spartanburg              253,791            266,809             5.1%
Tallahassee              320,304            334,886             4.6%
Wilmington               274,532            315,144             14.8%
Winston-Salem            421,961            448,629             6.3%
I do believe I got them all.

It appears as though the current MSA designations were projected back in time in order to get 2000 figures, since the Greenville MSA was then the Greenville-Spartanburg-Anderson MSA, the Raleigh-Cary MSA was the Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill MSA, etc. However, I'm not exactly sure of this.
 

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Corinth940 said:
Great job! I do see that you left off San Antonio though..1,889,797 as of 2005.
Thanks for pointing that out; I fixed it.
 

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Great updated information. And check out Raleigh. Even though their numbers appear smaller than it really is since splitting from durham; but their growth rates looks even more phenominal now.
 

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6 million by 2010

i did the adding and all the mathematica stuff...Atlanta will reach 6 million by 2010...If the progress of growth keeps growing the percentage will grow so I did all that and by 2010 Atlanta will have 6 million people....
 

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I was amazed, too, with Raleigh MSA's numbers!!! The whole splitting of the Triangle took away from both MSA's in the area, but as a CSA we have finally gone above 1.5 million, according to the latest numbers. Anyway, there is a steady and good growth in most major metros. Great work krazeeboi :eek:kay:
 

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i did the adding and all the mathematica stuff...Atlanta will reach 6 million by 2010...If the progress of growth keeps growing the percentage will grow so I did all that and by 2010 Atlanta will have 2010 people...
True, the latest census updates confirm not only Atlanta's big lead in the south--minus the megastates of Florida & Texas--but also the degree to which Atlanta contnues to outpace nearly all the other southern metros in growth rates.

Continues the pattern evident when comparing Atlanta's regional lead in both metro population & growth between 1960 & 2000.
 

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i did the adding and all the mathematica stuff...Atlanta will reach 6 million by 2010...If the progress of growth keeps growing the percentage will grow so I did all that and by 2010 Atlanta will have 2010 people...
Poor Atlanta... only 2,000 people in 2010 - how sad! :(
 

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And by 2035 Atlanta will have approximately 12.5 million

By 2010 it will have 5.9 million,2015 7 million,2020 8.3 million,2025 9.8 million 2030 almost 11 million,2035 12.5 million,2040 14.1 in,2045 16million,2050 18million,2055 20 million,2060 22.5 million

Offcourse it might not grow that fast but about us using up land maybe not because New york city metro is 20 million and not metro is 8.5 million and look at it it is practically just a little piece of the state....And we are larger than New York...

So lets see the largest Southern City by 2025
Atlanta-10 million approximately
Charlotte-2.8 million approximately
Dallas-10.2 million approximately
Houston-9.5 million approximately
Miami-8.6 million approximately
Orlando-5 million approximately
Tampa-4.5 million approximately

Texas Major cities with over 1,000,000(Texas- 37 million)
Dallas 10.2 million approximately
Houston 9.5 million approximately
Austin 4.5 million Approximately
San Antonio 3.5 million approximately
El Paso-3.1 million approximately
Mcallen-1.2 million approximately
(There were like 50,000 cities in Texas but i couldn't do all of them)!!!

Florida Major cities with over 1,000,000(Florida 25 million)
Miami-8.6 million approximately(WHere I was born)
Orlando-5 million approximately
Tampa 4.5 million approximately
Sarasota-1.3 million
Cape Coral-2 million approximately

Georgia Major cities with over 1,000,000(Georgia -18 million)
Atlanta 10 million approximately
Savannah 1 million approximately
Augusta-700,000 approximately

North Carolina Major cities with over 1,000,000(Total Population of NC over 15 million)
Raleigh-3 million approximately
Charlotte 2.8 million approximately

The south population by 2025 it will be about 130,00,000 and the US population that year will be approximately 350,000,000.

Georgia,NC,Texas,Florida will make up almost 95,000,000 of the about 130,000,000 of the Southern population.
Atlanta,Charlotte,Dallas,Houston,Miami,Orlando,and Tampa will make up almost 51 million of it.(51 million of 130 million in these cities).

Now these numbers and results were based on the continual growth of the cities and were made if these growths keep going at the same rate. These are approximates.

Atlanta will be the second largest Southern CITY!!!! YEAH!!! DAMN U DALLAS!!! JK!!!!
 

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glad you posted this...someone swore up and down houston's msa was 800,000 larger than atlanta. I knew it wasnt true...thanks!!!
 

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panamaboy9016 said:
Georgia Major cities with over 1,000,000(Georgia -18 million)
Atlanta 10 million approximately
Savannah 1 million approximately
Augusta-700,000 approximately

North Carolina Major cities with over 1,000,000(Total Population of NC over 15 million)
Raleigh-3 million approximately
Charlotte 2.8 million approximately
Ummm, North Carolina is expected to pass Georgia in population during the next 20-30 years.....
Both states have always been close in population.
 

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I was amazed, too, with Raleigh MSA's numbers!!! The whole splitting of the Triangle took away from both MSA's in the area, but as a CSA we have finally gone above 1.5 million, according to the latest numbers. Anyway, there is a steady and good growth in most major metros. Great work krazeeboi :eek:kay:
Thanks.

I'm thinking the analysts used the current Raleigh-Cary MSA counties to form a population for 2000, since at that time it was the old Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill MSA. At any rate, the growth rate was no surprise to me whatsoever.

The real surprises for me on this list were Fayetteville, AR, McAllen, TX, Savannah, and Wilmington. I would imagine that coastal cities the size of Savannah and Wilmington are beginning to have greater and greater appeal, especially as other coastal areas, particularly in Florida, continue to see increases in real estate.
 

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I think the splitting of the Raleigh Durham MSA has and will hurt the Triangle in some ways. For instance if you were not from the South and did not know Raleigh and Durham were 15 miles apart then you would think that they were 150 miles apart.

Another example that may not be significant in some people's eyes but other people hold value to them. Kiplingers just did a list that uses the MSAs to figure the least expensive place to live and Nashville TN came out on top. That's cool, but when I went to look for Raleigh Durham there was no RDU becasue they are now split. If RDU was not split then they would have been easily in the top ten of that list. I did a comparison and the RDU out did Nashville in evey category except house price.

Even in the Forbes list made a mention that Raleigh and Durham been split yet both made the top ten. I know many that say the lists are full of falsehoods or very bias opinion and it maybe, but some other people actually use them to make decison on where to live, or start a business, or find a job.
 
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