The same happened at Kingston retail park and the Odeon and Ice arena. Just as at St Andrews dock the area deserved better than just to be home to sprawling car parks and low-rise sheds. Meridian Quay in Swansea shows how it should be done.
How St Andrew's Dock brought life, jobs and business to city
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bustling with business: St Andrew's Dock in 1954 with fish being unloaded.
ITS waters are a permanent feature of our landscape... Stuart Russell continues his tour of the River Humber to West Hull...
WEEKEND and the Humber Bank in West Hull is, as they say locally, "heaving."
Cars by the hundred trundle to and from the DIY superstore and assorted barns of places selling anything from three piece suites to bikes to the latest in hi-tech sound and vision, which now grace what was once the western end of St Andrew's Dock.
Just a few yards from all this the murky brown waters of the estuary are capped with white as there's a fresh easterly blowing much to the satisfaction of that hardy breed who sail their yachts along these cold and uninviting waters.
It's a bright day with cloud and on the riverfront a line of fishing rods, their lines extending into the river murk are watched by men and boys who come here not only to fish but to gossip.
Not many years ago the chances of them catching anything half decent were slim to say the least. But now the Humber – as estuaries of its size go – is clean and the fish are coming back.
What will not come back, however, is the type of fishing which helped Hull became the world's biggest fishing port, a claim still hotly disputed to this day by rival Grimsby across the Humber.
Neighbouring the modern trading estate is a place of memories, a bleak and semi-derelict reminder of what once stood here.
Little remains of St Andrew's Dock from which in years past the great Hull trawler fleet left to ply its trade in the great northern waters of Iceland, Norway and Greenland. Most returned. Many did not.
Businesses that became legendary once traded from here, for many years the home of the greatest trawler fleet on earth.
Stand today at the lock head of what was once St Andrew's Dock and there is little remaining to bring a reminder of those glory days when fish and fishing played a key role in Hull's economy.
But in one respect nothing has changed, for the ever-restless muddy waters of the River Humber still flow past this place just as they have for millennia.
Without the river this dock, which opened on September 24, 1883, could never have existed. But that day marked an important milestone in the city's story, for it brought new life, business and jobs to the west of the growing city.
The cost of creating the new dock was £414,707 and the opening was an opportunity for ceremonial splendour. Local dignitaries sailed to it from Victoria Pier to watch as the chairman of Hull Dock Company, Mr J R Ringrose performed the official ceremony.
For the next century St Andrew's Dock was in many respects a town in its own right. Here were coffee shops, offices, banks, outfitters and repair facilities, not forgetting what was at one time the busiest telegraph office anywhere in Britain.
And here, too, were net stores, rope stores, coaling facilities, a fish meal plant from which an un-mistakable smell wafted over the packed terraces of neighbouring Hessle Road, and an ice factory.
All are now but memories.
In the story of the River Humber, St Andrew's Dock has a special place. It may now be gone. It will never be forgotten.
New dock owner reveals his long-term vision for a 'maritime educational campus'
HULL'S St Andrew's Dock will be given a new lease of life, the site's new owner has pledged.
Phil Akrill has laid out his long-term vision for the eastern part of the dock, including the Bullnose.
His company, Manor Property Group, bought the 500,000 sq ft site for an undisclosed fee this summer.
Under plans, the area will be transformed into a "maritime educational campus".
Key buildings, including the derelict Lord Line trawler company office, are set to stay.
Meanwhile, the run-down area between the outer Bullnose and Mr Chu's Chinese restaurant will be flattened.
By the end of the year the spot where trawlermen waved farewell to loved ones will be safe for people to come and reflect.
Mr Akrill's spokeswoman Claire Levy suggested the Bullnose could host Lost Trawlermen's Day in February.
Fishing heritage group Stand recently revealed it was likely to break with tradition in 2011 and hold the service on land near the Sailmakers' Arms pub.
Mrs Levy said: "We fully respect Stand's intent and ethos and wish them all the best with whatever they decide.
"The outer Bullnose area will be tidied and cleared by the end of this year. Dangerous buildings will be pulled down.
"It will be open to the public. Anyone who want to come and cast flowers into the Humber will be welcome to do so.
"It is important former trawlermen, and their loved ones, have somewhere to go to reflect."
Speaking about longer term plans for the former dock, Mrs Levy said Mr Akrill had already compiled a team of architects and engineers.
She said: "Mr Akrill does not want commercial vulgarity. The site will not be used for more houses and apartments.
"He is tremendously supportive of the work to preserve Hull's fishing heritage and feels this is an opportunity to give something back.
"Mr Akrill wants to create a place where people can go to remember what has been before.
"The whole development team has been appointed – ground engineers, electrical and mechanical engineers. It is all in place and running.
"We are on site now to start making it happen. We want to get this finished by 2014."
Mr Akrill, whose company developed Queen's Court in the city centre, is hoping to get Hull College and the city's university, as well as other educational establishments across Yorkshire, involved in the ambitious project.
Mrs Levy said: "Using our six old buildings, we will make an offer to the educational establishments on this city and further afield.
"We will see if they are interested in creating a marine/educational facility, in a campus style, on a prime land adjacent to the Humber.
"If all the buildings are fully utilised, 3,000 people, including staff and students, could be based here."
As well as the former Lord Line office, others set to be revamped include the former Marr and Seafish Industry Authority buildings and a listed pump house and associated buildings.
The only need one application to be successful and a construction developer to pick up on it and they should make a literal mint - I would assume they made a mint from the BBC buildings - imagine the rent on that...They're a joke, end of. Not sure how they're actually making a living from their company?