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On the main bridge, on the eastern side there will only be one car lane, and two bus lanes. On the western side there'll be one car lane, one bus lane, and an extra wide bike lane leading to/from Munkbroleden. I get the feeling that they're testing to see if they can keep this bridge at 1+1 car lane just like it has been for a few years now, while also giving more space to buses and bikes. It's supposed to last til 2023 at least, but if it works... I'm thinking it won't be changed.
Yeah, it's meant to last until 2023, as cars won't be able to make any left turns either on Södermalm or in Gamla Stan before then. But once both Katarinavägen and Munkbroleden are fully open, I believe the extra lanes may come in handy. And of course, the extra-wide bike lane is mainly there to handle the demand before the separate bridge by the metro.

And about that bridge: a status report on the state of the whole Slussen project was just released. Not especially good news as far as the budget is concerned, but those who were worried about the lack of updates about the cycling bridge will probably be happy to hear about the following:

Ett flertal alternativ för gång- och cykelbron har studerats. Under 2019 har parallella utredningar genomförts, främst inriktade på att analysera utformning, trafiklösning samt investeringsutgifter i relation till olika alternativ. Programhandling finns framtagen och för närvarande pågår framtagning av en systemhandling. Brons utformning påverkar anslutande anläggningsdelar.
Gång- och cykelbron har förbättrats jämfört med den lösning som låg till grund för kalkyl i reviderat genomförandebeslut. Bron mellan Södermalm och Gamla stan breddas till minst 8,5 meter och blir ca 21 meter i sitt bredaste snitt. Korsning på bron, där ramp från kaj ansluter, har utvecklats för att förbättra trafiksäkerheten. Rampens lutning har minskats för att skapa en mer attraktiv och tillgänglig lösning.
With no visuals it's hard to say how large the improvements actually are, but it's good to know that the bridge is still being worked on.

There is one new render of Mälarterrassen.


There's also a nice fresh aerial photo in the newest weekly update, although I wish the resolution was a little higher.
 

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I was thinking the stairs from the inbound side of the bus terminal will be just a very few meters from the new street level and so might be a good place for another exit to relive pressure on the existing longer passage to get from there to the entrance. Since it's the stairs and thus not yet high enough, and not enough space with possible places to put supports, that the geometry might simply not work out for a northern exit/entrance there. "There" being just north of Katarinahissen, on webcam 2 you can already see how very close it gets there.
I sent an email to the project asking if they have thought of this idea, and if it would be possible to do it.
I got a reply! No, can't be done. The ground underneath is needed for the construction works and can't be used to support an extra exit. Not entirely unexpected as the site, while huge, doesn't have any empty unused spaces.

Yeah, it's meant to last until 2023, as cars won't be able to make any left turns either on Södermalm or in Gamla Stan before then. But once both Katarinavägen and Munkbroleden are fully open, I believe the extra lanes may come in handy. And of course, the extra-wide bike lane is mainly there to handle the demand before the separate bridge by the metro.
That makes sense. Still, the bridge design does permit re-allocating space between uses. And reducing the cars to 1+1 lane so pedestrians and cyclists can have more space has been mentioned by quite a few as a possibility (not politicians or planners tho).

And about that bridge: a status report on the state of the whole Slussen project was just released. Not especially good news as far as the budget is concerned, but those who were worried about the lack of updates about the cycling bridge will probably be happy to hear about the following:
Ett flertal alternativ för gång- och cykelbron har studerats. Under 2019 har parallella utredningar genomförts, främst inriktade på att analysera utformning, trafiklösning samt investeringsutgifter i relation till olika alternativ. Programhandling finns framtagen och för närvarande pågår framtagning av en systemhandling. Brons utformning påverkar anslutande anläggningsdelar.
Gång- och cykelbron har förbättrats jämfört med den lösning som låg till grund för kalkyl i reviderat genomförandebeslut. Bron mellan Södermalm och Gamla stan breddas till minst 8,5 meter och blir ca 21 meter i sitt bredaste snitt. Korsning på bron, där ramp från kaj ansluter, har utvecklats för att förbättra trafiksäkerheten. Rampens lutning har minskats för att skapa en mer attraktiv och tillgänglig lösning.
With no visuals it's hard to say how large the improvements actually are, but it's good to know that the bridge is still being worked on.
That does sound very, very good. Even such a description doesn't guarantee it being good tho, screwing up bike infra is astoundingly common. But I'm hopefull! We'll see next week :)

There is one new render of Mälarterrassen.
Had not seen this one before! Looking good. Plenty of stairs, plenty of windows. Those stairs towards the sides will help make the entire mid levels relevant and not just weird dead ends. I'd give those angled triangular roofs different colors tho. Gold, bronze, silver, copper, purple, blue, ... (all metallic).
Bet the nimbys will still be up in arms about this view tho. And then once it is all done, most of them will think it's fine.



A great video showing the whole construction from many angles, taken earlier this week. I found it through the https://www.facebook.com/groups/677178766354139/?multi_permalinks=748606769211338&notif_id=1591313935827483&notif_t=group_activity&ref=notif]Vi som följer Slussenbron[/url] facebook group.
 

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Actually, I do like that new design of Mälaterrassen. Large useful straightforward central staircase, side staircases which make sense, lots of glass, the roofs look fine and the walls are all stone clad and not ugly concrete.
 
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I sent another email to the project ([email protected]), and got a reply now:

The first bridge at quay level (the one nearest to the golden bridge) is planned to open during summer 2021.
So, still a long time til we get access to that area. It will be the first time since the 1920s the public has had access to bridges at that level, so I guess one more year isn't that bad a wait. Hopefully the pandemic will be over by then. And since there's already a crosswalk from the arrivals part of the temporary bus terminal to the east-west pathway along the quays, opening a bridge at that level will mean you can go from an arriving bus to the Old Town far more directly and without having to go up all those stairs.
 

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There is one new render of Mälarterrassen.
More on the new design, from Mälarterrassen tar form – och modellen byggs om - Stockholm växer
Mälarterrassen blir en plats att besöka och vistas på, både inom- och utomhus. Platsen har länge diskuterats och nu har Mälarterrassen fått sin nya skrud. Målet har varit att skapa en trygg och lättillgänglig miljö.

Byggnaden kommer att bestå av två huskroppar i anslutning till Södermalmstorg med kopplingar till underliggande lokaler som kommer att ligga i terrasseringar ner mot vattnet. Mellan byggnaderna löper ett gångstråk som knyter ihop Södermalm med Gamla stan.
Stadens modellör bygger utifrån digitala ritningar
Staden har sedan många år en trämodell som visar hur det framtida Slussen kommer att se ut. När nu Mälarterrassens koncept är ändrat uppdateras modellen. Ola Ek har jobbat som modellör sedan 2008 (för Stockholms stad sedan 2019) men är i grunden möbelsnickare. Han fick uppdraget att uppdatera Mälarterrassen i Slussens huvudmodell. Han utgår ifrån konceptritningar som projektet arbetar med.
- Den vanligaste missuppfattningen om mitt yrke är att alla modeller är snarlika varandra. En modell kan kosta som en trehjulig barncykel, den kan också kosta som en Ferrari, eller två, säger Ola Ek. Allt beror på vilka krav beställaren har på slutprodukten.
Ola har plockat ut den del av modellen som ska byggas om och har sedan arbetat i verkstaden under många timmar för att ge ritningarna liv. Modellen är byggd på en stomme av plexiglas och är sedan klädd med tunn björkplywood. Arbetet har tagit cirka 200 timmar att färdigställa. En utmaning är också att modellen ska ansluta och passa till redan befintlig modell och belysning.
Ola Ek arbetar bygger upp nya Mälarterrassen. Foto: Lennart Johansson
Titta på den uppdaterade Mälarterrassen
Från och med den 18 juni kan du se den uppdaterade modellen av byggnaden i Slussenrummet. Vi finns på Södermalmstorg 4. Utställningen är öppen på tisdagar, onsdagar och torsdagar mellan 12 och 18. Lördagar är utställningen öppen mellan 11 och 15.
Under rådande situation är antalet besökare begränsat till 5 åt gången. Tänk på att hålla avstånd och sprita händerna när du kommer in i lokalen. Handsprit finns på plats. Vi rengör knappar flera gånger under dagen. På grund av situationen är VR-stationen inte i bruk.
 

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The big crane next to the temporary T-Bana entrance is coming down as we speak. The remaining hole will then be patched up and we will be closer to seeing the new intersection take shape...
 

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Getting this segment in place is a major step. First part of the actual sluice the place is named for, and a major part of being able to complete at least the easternmost quay level stuff (even if it, like I posted earlier, won't open til next summer for pedestrians)
 

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The first section of the new canal is in place. So from hereon in, where are the other two parts being built and how will they get put into place? Obviously access is now rather limited from the east side.
 
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As I recall from reading the different official and semi-official channels from the project, the western third will be built in the same place as the first (i.e. Värtan, not very far from where the Silja Line terminal is), and the middle third will be built on site. Not 100% sure about that tho.
Not sure how the western third will be towed past what has already been built, and it'll certainly be too big to go through wither of the other two ways into Mälaren.
 
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As I recall from reading the different official and semi-official channels from the project, the western third will be built in the same place as the first (i.e. Värtan, not very far from where the Silja Line terminal is), and the middle third will be built on site. Not 100% sure about that tho.
Not sure how the western third will be towed past what has already been built, and it'll certainly be too big to go through wither of the other two ways into Mälaren.
I'm reasonably sure that the info about the third section being built in Värtahamnen is the result of some internal communication error at Skanska; it originally appeared in a news release on their website and was then repeated elsewhere. It apparently will be built on the same submersible barge [this TV4 clip at around 0:55], which may have created the confusion. In fact, one of the construction schematics at the Södermalmstorg exhibit seemingly shows the third section moored at Munkbron. The barge is of course still too wide to pass under the neighbouring bridges, but unlike the third section it could conceivably be taken apart or be lifted into Mälaren somehow. I don't actually know what the plan is.

 

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I have not seen those posters!
Any chance of someone taking pictures of all of them and posting them here? I'm still keeping my sightseeing to a minimum, and that's just too far out of the way from my current commute.
 

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The schematics are not that detailed and probably not that accurate, but I took pictures of two more in November. The preceding ones in the sequence show events preceding the arrival of the bridge, and the final one just shows the complete structure.



 

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A few things that I’ve observed from the webcams over the last week or so:

  • On the southeastern corner of Guldbron, it looks like they had to do some remedial concreting work to get the platform and bridge level matching, as it appeared the platform level was much lower (almost sagging by appearances). Was that intentional from the beginning?
  • It also looks like they are starting formwork at the bottom of the canal pit to create the second canal section (not all that clear on the webcam). Can anybody confirm?
  • We can clearly see the new Katarinavägen intersection taking shape - how will they manage the moving of the pedestrian path from its current temporary position at its south?
Exciting to see the visible progress now that the bridge and first canal section are in place!

EDIT: Just found that the foot and cycle paths will be changed on 20 July as per below graphic. The temporary footbridge in the middle of Katarinavägen will be removed so as to complete the rest of the new roadway.

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  • On the southeastern corner of Guldbron, it looks like they had to do some remedial concreting work to get the platform and bridge level matching, as it appeared the platform level was much lower (almost sagging by appearances). Was that intentional from the beginning?
I don't think it was remedial work, that small section of concrete slab just hadn't been poured yet. There are a few good close-up photos here. The height difference is caused by the small eastward slope that the concrete has at the bridge corner, and will presumably be overcome with gravel (and geofoam, if necessary) similarly to the rest of the streets currently being built.

  • It also looks like they are starting formwork at the bottom of the canal pit to create the second canal section (not all that clear on the webcam). Can anybody confirm?
If you have a LinkedIn account, there are high-resolution photos of the pit available here. The same account has been posting suberb Slussen updates for more than a year now.
 

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That southeastern corner looks like the southwestern corner now IMO? i.e. wan't that much work to catch up :)

I get the feelinh that after the new rerouting of pedestrain walkways OzFrog posted about, the one after that is likely to let people walk on completed surfaces. Quite a bit of the upcoming one now wil also be on completed surfaces. The project is really getting to where the first bits of finished product is ready for the public.


New HD youtube video was posted today:
 

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In the southeastern corner of Guldbron, it looks like they had to do some remedial concreting work to get the platform and bridge level matching, as it appeared the platform level was much lower (almost sagging by appearances). Was that intentional from the beginning?
Looks to be the same kind of droop in the other corner as well, but I guess that it's there to make sure that any water that will seep down to all the gravel that will be laid between the big concrete slab and the asphalt on top will drain away. Having water there would not be a good thing come winter with frost heaving. There is also a dip in running across that concrete slab, again most likely for draining away water.

Looks like we will finally get rid of that hole left by the crane soon, they are adding the water proof membrane to be able to put on Styrofoam in the hole now.

Also talking about draining water, do anyone know how they plan to keep water of the walkways over the bridge, haven't seen any drains on the pictures shown on Instagram yet, would be bad if it became a river when it's raining.
 
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