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This is going to be massive and very good for Nova Scotia . With Halifax running at a good part of capacity The Melford terminal at the Strait of Canso is logical and is being developed with private money. The highway from New Glasgow to the Strait is being double-laned and there is not doubt that the Railway in Northern Nova Scotia will be upgraded in a big way. Who knows we could see the first new railway construction in Nova Scotia of any length from New Glasgow to Amherst as the road beds from that abandoned line are still there.



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That is GREAT news for the province and the Strait area!
 

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This is good to hear...with that and Keltic petrochemical that area of the province is going to have a much needed boom.
 

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Yea, it should totally reverse the drain of people from the area atleast for a few years, and hopefully the growth can be sustained afterward too.
 
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Yea, it should totally reverse the drain of people from the area atleast for a few years, and hopefully the growth can be sustained afterward too.
Or have it that Stora cant hold the gun to the provinces head with the pull out option and that people would become unemployed. three shifts of 90 people is not bad for the container terminal with 500 construction jobs to build it. then you will have increased employment on the railway, Truck Servicing will also be a spin off.
Even places like Truro will get a few new jobs because of the increased amount of work to transfer container trains to CN lines. It will be very constant.

The third container terminal for the province will probably lead to another one and there is talk of the port of sydney opening up with private money for a small container port as well.

If it all goes well it is possible that the abandoned line from new glasgow to amherst would be restored. With the volume and relaying the line thru very flat, rock free terrain would probably cost less then increasing truro to amherst capacity for the rail line which has major cuts thru rock .
 

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awesome news for the maritimes.
 

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The third container terminal for the province will probably lead to another one and there is talk of the port of sydney opening up with private money for a small container port as well.
Yeah, there's been talk of the Sydney terminal seeing more cargo traffic through this, and the rail line is still connected to the Sysco and Devco piers which are still active. Though the harbour doesn't look conducive to cargo ships to the naked eye, it is used to mid-sized cargo ships due to the old steel and coal industries, so it needs little to no improvement depending on the amount and type of activity it gets from ships coming this way. The future looks bright for these areas, at least in terms of the cargo-related jobs and the spinoffs they'll generate.
 
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Yeah, there's been talk of the Sydney terminal seeing more cargo traffic through this, and the rail line is still connected to the Sysco and Devco piers which are still active. Though the harbour doesn't look conducive to cargo ships to the naked eye, it is used to mid-sized cargo ships due to the old steel and coal industries, so it needs little to no improvement depending on the amount and type of activity it gets from ships coming this way. The future looks bright for these areas, at least in terms of the cargo-related jobs and the spinoffs they'll generate.
The thing is with the demand for cargo handling in north america from chinesse goods you are now looking at many possible openings for nova scotia to cash in . Instead of coal coming in or going out of sydney it maybe containers. It is all very good for the region even if Halifax believes it would be competting with their port it really doesnt . it compliments what nova scotia as a whole has to offer. Believe it or not Country Harbour on the eastern shore, thought not developed, is actually a place that has what halfiax has as far as geography and harbour depth. The problem for a country Harbour is that you have the port of halifax all readdy developed and before not really getting full capacity . today with how the world is going the possibilites are very much there.

We can be a better more efficient gateway to the new england states for shippers then even new york or boston because we dont need the dredging operations tha those harbours need to post panamax ships .
 
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Two new post panamax cranes should soon arrive at the Ceres terminal in Halifax.
you add that to halifax and then have a new container facility in Melford with post panamax cranes and we will really see some action in shipping. .

The big problem is the rail line from truro to amherst and the cut thru the hills you would have to do to increase capacity. If things get really good with a melford coming on stream you might see the new glasgow to amherst line rebuilt because you dont have the difficulty of cutting thru hills with rock to add double track . The north shore is basically flat clay soil . If was all to come about you could even see some container trains being taken up to new glasgow from halifax and then put amherst on a new north shore line . return container trains could also be put thru to new glasgow to have the truro amherst line as outgoing to the west only . that would increase capacity for halifax right there . Only the two ports could justify the rebuild of the north line

The possibilities are there ripe with the new developments.
 

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Hopefully some manufacturing could spring up around the port further adding to jobs in the area. I read an interesting idea by Roger Taylor. He suggested Nova Scotia could issue its own currency of course he wasn't serious, but this new currency would obviously be low in value compared to the Canadian, US and Euro and thus make Nova Scotia much more attractive for investment and manufacturing.

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you add that to halifax and then have a new container facility in Melford with post panamax cranes and we will really see some action in shipping. .

The big problem is the rail line from truro to amherst and the cut thru the hills you would have to do to increase capacity. If things get really good with a melford coming on stream you might see the new glasgow to amherst line rebuilt because you dont have the difficulty of cutting thru hills with rock to add double track . The north shore is basically flat clay soil . If was all to come about you could even see some container trains being taken up to new glasgow from halifax and then put amherst on a new north shore line . return container trains could also be put thru to new glasgow to have the truro amherst line as outgoing to the west only . that would increase capacity for halifax right there . Only the two ports could justify the rebuild of the north line

The possibilities are there ripe with the new developments.

It could be a boom for Truro with cargo comming form Halifax and teh Straight. Truo will be the hub.
 

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From the free online section of the Cape Breton Post:

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Last updated at 11:45 PM on 29/05/07

Private investors moving along with terminal proposal

WES STEWART
The Cape Breton Post

MELFORD — The private investors behind a $300-million container and transshipment terminal on the mainland side of the Strait of Canso are at the permitting stage as they unveiled plans to a packed auditorium in Guysborough, Tuesday.

“Melford is a greenfield site, it has ideal geography and location and we are the closest port to Europe,” said Melford International Terminal Inc. president Paul Martin.

The company partners, comprising Nova Scotia and international business interests, have identified the Strait as an ideal port for the new generation of mega container vessels. The planned terminal will have a throughput capacity of 1.5 million 20-foot equivalent containers (TEUs) and double-stacked train movements directly to Chicago.

The proponents are about to apply for an environmental review and begin the engineering and design work.

Martin said the construction phase will mean 500 jobs and when it is finished it will employ 240 people in addition to 2,275 support jobs.

Guysborough Warden Lloyd Hines said council has been negotiating with landowners to acquire property for the terminal, a project that has been in the planning stages for two years. The county has rezoned the land to M-3 industrial.

“We are happy they have reached the point where they can share it with the public. I think they are talking about breaking ground in a year’s time with a two-year contraction period, Hines added.

“This site is about 15 kilometres from the Trans-Canada Highway, and there will be spur highway and a small spur rail line from the Linwood Crossing, a distance of about 30 kilometres.

TransSystems Corp. is doing the planning and design for the private-sector initiative.

“There is no government money, the private sector must lead this project,” said TransSystems founder John Vickerman.

Vickerman described its potential as an eastern gateway to North America to meet the rising tide of Asian trade, to meet the growing demand before 2014. That market potential is expected to grow from 85-million box units to 243-million units by 2024.

“We will need three times the number of ports in North America by 2020.”

The 315-acre container terminal will be supported by a 1,500-acre logistics park.

Martin said the local consortium includes Trident Holdings, Nova Construction headed by John Chisholm, Corporate Strategic Consultants headed by Richie Mann, and DMAC Risk Management Inc.

Premier Rodney MacDonald said this project identifies the Strait of Canso as a place to do business, “this project fits perfectly if Canada is to remain competitive, we will need a second door to handle the container traffic.”

The developers will be meeting today with officials of Rail America, the operators of the Cape Breton and Central Nova Scotia Railroad, to begin talks on the route for the short line.
 

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Article in the DN on the port:


New port for Strait area


A new $300-million port in the Strait of Canso that could revolutionize the area's economy was announced yesterday.

After two years of planning, a consortium of investors revealed the plan to develop a privately funded, deep-water container terminal in Melford, Guysborough Co.

Melford International Terminal Inc. announced the project is expected to bring 500 jobs during construction, then 200 full-time jobs once operational.

"This is definitely good news for Nova Scotia," said Guysborough Warden Lloyd Hines.

"A concern to all of Nova Scotia, in particularly rural areas, is having good, high-paying, long-term employment opportunities."

The project must go through an environmental assessment before it gets the green light for development. If the assessment is passed without any holdups, construction could begin early next year, and the facility could be running as early as 2010.

Yesterday's announcement comes amid hopes that Nova Scotia could see greatly increased traffic of container ships. Due to clogging of West Coast ports and larger ships being built, the marine industry is looking for Asian imports to come to the East Coast through the Suez Canal.

Halifax is among the places vying to be an Atlantic gateway for shipping to the U.S. and central Canada. The organizers of the project are predicting there will be enough traffic that the Guysborough port will not negatively affect Halifax.

The site was pegged as one of the best locations for a new terminal on the East Coast of North America in a recent feasibility study.

"We have the right combination of a deep harbour, (lots of available land), and ice-free water. You can't find many places like that in the northeastern seaboard," Hines said.

The project is set to occupy about 809 hectares of land, including a 607-hectare logistics park adjacent to the container terminal.

The terminal will have an operating capacity of 1.5 million 20-foot equivalent containers. They are expecting 500,000 containers to go through the facility in the first year.
New port for Strait area

RailAmerica, which operates the Cape Breton and Central Nova Scotia short line railways, will provide rail service to the Melford site through a new rail spur from the existing line at Linwood Junction.

The company is a consortium made up of Halifax-based Trident Holdings, Nova Construction Ltd., Corporate Strategic Consultants and DMAC Risk Management.

Several international partners are joining the project. SSA Marine of Seattle, which has about 150 operations worldwide, will operate the terminal. CenterPoint Properties of Illinois will provide capital for the nearby logistics park.

The operation will be entirely privately funded.

 

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Hopefully some manufacturing could spring up around the port further adding to jobs in the area. I read an interesting idea by Roger Taylor. He suggested Nova Scotia could issue its own currency of course he wasn't serious, but this new currency would obviously be low in value compared to the Canadian, US and Euro and thus make Nova Scotia much more attractive for investment and manufacturing.

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It is not the value of the dollar that matters, it is the cost of goods and services.

Canada had different price levels because its national economy is somewhat sheltered from the rest of the world. I don't think the same is true of Nova Scotia's economy within Canada.
 
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yes the players in the plot thicken . nova construction's john chisholm is one of the richest men in the region and he also makes a sahre of the toll revenues for the toll highway out of nova scotia . Increasing the amount of truck traffic coming in and out of nova scotia would probably pay for his share in the melford venture alone. Then there is the highway from the trans canada and the container yard.

The chisholm's owned the mountain the canso causeway construction used for the stone. John Nova sold that interest to martin marietta about two decades back and that is still an operation that exports gravel to the carribbean and points south.

Talk about creating an ice free deep water port. with the Causeway for the breakwater and barrier for gulf of st lawrence ice . John Nova's family has been making money all the way and others like stora, statia point tupper , the gypsum terminal , the coal loading facility have all been born because of the causeway.

Melford is just an extension of that LOL. with John nova's fingers in it .

He is also a major shareholder in empire I believe and owns the riverside speedway track which will host Nascar canada.
 

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Ah yes, but even as the rich get richer, this is still good news for the area, and with the spinoffs, the province as a whole. I'd like to see more emphasis put on upgrading rail for this rather than relying mainly on truck transport though.
 
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Ah yes, but even as the rich get richer, this is still good news for the area, and with the spinoffs, the province as a whole. I'd like to see more emphasis put on upgrading rail for this rather than relying mainly on truck transport though.
I think you would see that come Smevo . loading direct onto double stacked container cars on dock side is what most ports are looking to do now to increase capacity. With the proposed capacity of this container facility being about twice of what Halifax is running at today. You are really looking at the rail probably having many sidings being restored for parking of Railcars. New Glasgow double track and a yard of four lanes running Thru. Harve Boucher will probably be upgraded for the Marshalling yard there . Who knows they might put a yard on the Port Hawkesbury side of the Canso strait.

The big thing is you will have a volume that is going to be a couple of times more then what the short line has been running and that is very good for restoration possibilities. The shortline people have been very good at the operating of the line from the standpoint of increasing traffic despite the ending of Syndey Steel and Devco. Propane being hauled out of Statia Point Tupper was a customer that that was not there when Railtex came in.

I would not doubt you would see CN take over the line again.
 

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Wow very cool! Maybe it will encourage VIA to bring back rail service to North Sydney too eventually.
I'm happy to see that this is finally happening, as it was mentioned in another thread earlier this year.

Plus I think it only appropriate that VIA offer service to the jumping-off point to The Rock.
 
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