Where is OT will this be Jerbster?
Stratum | Old Trafford | 113m/70m | 37/23 Floors
Went to the public exhibition today at the IWMN. I do have the brochure but I've been asked not to post any of it until better renders and further information are officially released to the press. (hopefully I will get them as well?) Obviously if other people want to go down and have a look at the exhibition and post the the information and renders that's up to them. There's a model and some cracking renders at the exhibition which are far better than the two renders in the brochure. They really show the scale of the proposal and what impact it will have on this gateway site. I did ask if I could take some pictures, but I wasn't allowed.
The proposal consists of the following. (only posting this so I don't have to type it)
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The two towers are across between Lumiere, 2-4 Chester Road and the back of Beetham Tower Liverpool. (Lumiere and Simpson sprang to mind straightaway)
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Apparently the hotel operator has signed or is close to signing.(can't remember) The proposal will be phased, 4 blocks first, one of which is the hotel and another is office. The two towers will be built last. Full planning application will be submitted in June with a 2009 start if approved. Architects are HKR.
The proposal consists of the following. (only posting this so I don't have to type it)
The two towers are across between Lumiere, 2-4 Chester Road and the back of Beetham Tower Liverpool. (Lumiere and Simpson sprang to mind straightaway)
Apparently the hotel operator has signed or is close to signing.(can't remember) The proposal will be phased, 4 blocks first, one of which is the hotel and another is office. The two towers will be built last. Full planning application will be submitted in June with a 2009 start if approved. Architects are HKR.
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Its here isnt it?
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Hopefully the two towers will be going where the large red warehouse is. Largest tower on the corner. The four other blocks will stretched from the end of the smaller red warehouse to the second tower. Just across the bridge from the Clippers Quay proposal Che.
was thinking the same...Its here isnt it?
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http://www.skyscrapernews.com/searc...&constructioncost=&lastsalesvalue=&companies=
Cheers. Can't say I'd want to live off White City roundaboutm, but it takes all sorts I suppose.Hopefully the two towers will be going where the large red warehouse is. Largest tower on the corner. The four other blocks will stretched from the end of the smaller red warehouse to the second tower. Just across the bridge from the Clippers Quay proposal Che.
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Has anyone else been yet?
Found it. Renders below quotes.
This was the original proposal. Oh boy, it's come along way since then.
Original architects were Moss. http://www.moss-architecture.com/index.html
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Found it. Renders below quotes.
This was the original proposal. Oh boy, it's come along way since then.
Original architects were Moss. http://www.moss-architecture.com/index.html
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nice one jerb for finding this old stuff again. so what you're saying is, all this has been completely revised, including the heights of buildings? fantastic. the tallest tower in those old renders i can make out is about 22/23 storeys. i might go take a look today. maybe test my new phone camera out
well, i remember this development as being pre-planning. that was in 2005 as your article states. i hope they get a move on and submit something.
well, i remember this development as being pre-planning. that was in 2005 as your article states. i hope they get a move on and submit something.
http://www.crainsmanchesterbusiness.../-/new-development-to-tower-over-old-traffordNew development to tower over Old Trafford
By Simon Binns
Manchester United is getting a new next door neighbour — a two million sq ft mixed use development that could open by 2011.
London-based Howard Holdings has unveiled plans for its new Stratum development, which will transform the Victoria Warehouse in Gorse Hill, Trafford. The site, which lies just 150 yards from Old Trafford, was showcased to the public for the first time last week at the Imperial War Museum.
The £180m scheme will comprise six buildings which will house 780 residential apartments, 80,000 sq ft of office space, a 190-bedroom hotel and parking for 700 cars, as well as smaller units for retail and leisure use. Two of the buildings will be large towers, the highest of which could be 37 storeys.
Geoffrey Sparrow, investment director at Howard Holdings, told Crain's the company was in discussions with a number of potential occupiers for the scheme, as well as possible backers. He said that being so close to Manchester United should help the profile and popularity of the development.
Hotel
“We are talking to hotel operators and could put a three or four-star venue on the site, which should appeal to match day and business visitors,” he said. “The club is an important neighbour and brings a high density of people to the area, so we want to involve them in discussions.”
Sparrow said that Howard Holdings would be solely responsible for developing the site, which it acquired from Oxford-based Panamint Properties. A planning application is due to be submitted by mid-July and Sparrow expects it to be approved by the end of the year, with work starting in 2009 over two phases.
“The first phase should take around 18 months, and the second phase is expected to take two years,” said Sparrow. “We are being flexible about what is delivered as part of each and will have to see how the market is at the time.”
Craig Whitfield, manager of the nearby Playgolf facility, said the development would add to the borough's burgeoning leisure sector. “Does Manchester really need more flats?”
am i right that there's a building called liverpool warehouse and another building called victoria warehouse and they are right next to eachother, both between wharfside way and trafford park road? if i'm right the victoria warehouse is to the right of this pic. i seem to remember glimsing it a few times...Its here isnt it?
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presumably both are to go if this is the case.
Seeing as a 'detailed' render and article about the Stratum proposal has been realeased and published by Crains,
I feel it is my 'civic duty' to publish the details of the Stratum brochure which was available to the public at last weeks public exhibition.
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Note Abito and Clippers Quay in the background. Two sizes.
Colour massing. Two sizes.
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