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Sydney: Suburban funiculars

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Sydney is the hilliest of the state capitals yet has no public funiculars. Have any ever been proposed?
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Sydney is the hilliest of the state capitals yet has no public funiculars. Have any ever been proposed?
No because they're not double decker and they're not compatible with the existing suburban rail network therefore they should not exist in Sydney. End of story.
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Sorry, Funicular is not heavy rail. Syndey's classic tramways and the current light rail are also not accessible to suburban trains and Sydney's classic trams were also single decked as are current L.R.Vs, but the key here is they are not heavy rail.

Also, funiculars are (by definition) cable operated, pairs of cars being attatched to a common cable. They typically run only between two stations on different levels, the entire track being sloped and with a gradient steeper than what would be a reasonable ruling gradient for heavy rail.
I would think that a reasonable maximum gradient for heavy rail would be 1% or less. Funicular gradients are many times steeper.

The function of a funicular is also very different from heavy rail. They are all about getting people up and down steep slopes.
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Sorry, Funicular is not heavy rail. Syndey's classic tramways and the current light rail are also not accessible to suburban trains and Sydney's classic trams were also single decked as are current L.R.Vs, but the key here is they are not heavy rail.

Also, funiculars are (by definition) cable operated, pairs of cars being attatched to a common cable. They tyically run only between two stations on different levels, the entire track being sloped and with a gradient steeper than what would be a reasonable ruling gradient for heavy rail.
I would think that a reasonable maximum gradient for heavy rail would be 1% or less. Funicular gradients are many times steeper.

The function of a funicular is also very different from heavy rail. They are all about getting people up and down steep slopes.
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Ahh...is that time of the year again? I think I might start a thread asking why my street in Newtown doesn’t have a gondola linking it with Newtown station. I’d settle for a horse pulled canal boat.....
Sydney the hilliest? How many mountains are within 10km of the Sydney CBD compared to other capital cities in Australia?

It's like you've never been north of Hornsby FFS.
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Sorry, Funicular is not heavy rail. Syndey's classic tramways and the current light rail are also not accessible to suburban trains and Sydney's classic trams were also single decked as are current L.R.Vs, but the key here is they are not heavy rail.

Also, funiculars are (by definition) cable operated, pairs of cars being attatched to a common cable. They typically run only between two stations on different levels, the entire track being sloped and with a gradient steeper than what would be a reasonable ruling gradient for heavy rail.
I would think that a reasonable maximum gradient for heavy rail would be 1% or less. Funicular gradients are many times steeper.

The function of a funicular is also very different from heavy rail. They are all about getting people up and down steep slopes.
Did you really think I had no idea what a funicular is? Adide from having been on several in Europe, I built a model funicular nearly 30 years ago for a school physics project.

Whereas you have no idea what sarcasm is, and that my comment was a not-so-subtle reference to your other thread you started yesterday.
I don’t know about funicular, but they could certainly use a Hong Kong style escalator system at Bardwell Park station, down in the valley as it is.
I often used to muse whilst cycling home from Mac Pk to Wahroonga that I could have done with some sort of winch/tow to help me up from Browns Waterhole to the Pacific Highway. Thought usually came into my head as I turned the corner of the last really step but where it ramps up to about 18% for a short distance and narrows, just in time for cocks in cars to yell abuse at you as they go past. Something must be done!
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Hong Kong also has double deck trams. Double deck the trams in Sydney to reduce overcrowding on the light rail system and also integrate it into the heavy rail network.


I don’t know about funicular, but they could certainly use a Hong Kong style escalator system at Bardwell Park station, down in the valley as it is.
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Which hilly part of Sydney is demanding of a funicular?
Well, West Pennant Hills to start with.
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I don't see you telling us how else I'll be getting from Kogarah to WPH in less than 18 minutes in the near future.
The best/worst thing about that in-joke is now the future transport vision thing has all lines leading to Kogarah.
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Why stop at funiculars and gondolas? Real innovators would be suggesting a high speed travellator down Bondi Road from the Junction to the beach. So shiny.
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Underground. Just like the St James-Domain Carpark. I mean, Bondi Rd is one giant carpark. So it fits.
The Katoomba 'death railway' is about as close as Sydney gets to a funicular.
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