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Depends on who you ask. Personally i feel Destiny would help downtown just because people are not going to stay at one place during there whole vacation. Downtown Syracuse will prosper for the same reason Orlando's Downtown does. Another area in Syracuse that i think would benefit is Franklin Sq. because it is very close to the Inner Harbor.

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Thanks BuffCity and ECoastTransplant!

Some good news for Armory Square, though some might not view it that why.

"Starbucks comes to Armory Square
Friday, April 08, 2005
That new shot clock in Armory Square is getting a new companion with an international reputation: Starbucks . Shot clock? Starbucks? Say it: Starbucks DoubleShot.

The specialty coffee giant, based in Seattle, is setting up shop in the former stomping grounds of Nancy's Coffee Cafe at Center Armory .

"Things are progressing nicely and the store is expected to open possibly at the end of April or the beginning of May," Starbucks officials said in a statement.

For now, you've got your standard brown paper in the windows of the former Nancy's. It looks like Starbucks will be sprawling out in the whole place.

Likely on tap (though not confirmed): Internet access on top of the brew and food Starbucks is known for. Plus music. Starbucks is becoming a major player in music retail these days.

This would be a significant development for Armory Square. Starbucks follows Quiznos Sub as another national retailer to take an interest in downtown Syracuse.

Where they go - especially Starbucks - others follow.

Armory Square has largely existed, grown and succeeded on the work and risk of home-grown talent, retailers, restaurateurs and artists who took a chance and made a stand.

That's a good thing. So is an influx of national retailers, who can foist their built-in appeal on Armory Square and lure even more visitors to shop, dine and have fun - at all the shops and restaurants.

Perhaps they'll even be some spillover into other parts of the city. "

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ECoastTransplant said:
Who was the developer/redeveloper? Was there one or several, specifically the brick three story buildings with forest green windows and green awnings? QUOTE]

Several developers slowly renovated the district over a period of 10 years before it starting looking this nice.

too bad this website is under construction, it used to have great info on it:

How has Pyramid's mall impacted downtown? What is the consensus over the DestiNY project- will it hurt or help downtown?[/
I don't think Carousel Mall has done much to help or hurt downtown. Armory Square developed after the mall open in 1990. About DestiNY. I believe that more people coming to the area can only downtown. And if it does bring a lot of growth to the area, some of those people will want to live downtown, therefore that means more building downtown and more businesses opening there too.

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Big plans for parking lot on the left...

Another view. The parking lot is on the edge of Armory Square

Falcone project to take shape
SU students contribute to plan for offices, residential, retail near Armory Square.

Wednesday, November 22, 2006
By Tim Knauss
Staff writer

One by one, 10 students from Syracuse University's School of Architecture presented their recommendations Tuesday for how developer Michael P. Falcone should build a mixture of office, retail and living space near Armory Square.

The presentations marked the culmination of a semester-long course for the students.

But for Falcone, who has ambitious plans to build the biggest downtown development in years, they were a beginning.

Falcone and Manhattan architect Lindy Roy, who were among the half dozen professionals to critique the students' work Tuesday, plan to sit down next week and start designing the project in earnest, Falcone said.

Falcone said he envisions building about 120,000 square feet of office space, perhaps 30 to 40 condos, 80 to 110 student housing units, and a smattering of retail space. He has estimated the cost at $70 million to $90 million.

"I plan to be in the ground by this time next year," he said.

Falcone, chief executive officer of The Pioneer Cos., sponsored the architecture course this fall after buying two parking lots near The Warehouse, the renovated building where the architecture school operates while its on-campus building is being renovated.

Roy, an architect with whom Falcone has worked before, helps teach the course.

The academic exercise has helped them begin thinking about the development, Roy said. Although it's unlikely any of the student proposals will contribute to the design directly, they help spark ideas, she said.

"In their minds, nothing can't be done," Falcone said.

Onondaga Creek, which flows past both lots, was an important element in some of the student proposals. Falcone said he shares their interest in the creek and hopes to use his building project "to start tying the creek back into the city."

Earlier this month, engineering firm O'Brien & Gere announced plans to leave its DeWitt headquarters and take 75,000 square feet in Falcone's project. That move will depend on when O'Brien & Gere finds a tenant or buyer for its DeWitt building, Falcone said, but his downtown project will move ahead regardless.

In August, a limited liability company affiliated with The Pioneer Cos. acquired the two parking lots on West Washington Street and West Fayette Street for $1.85 million, according to city assessment records.

Falcone said he held his first meeting with city officials recently to begin planning for the project. "
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