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Now Turkey will start to produce high speed train with the coproduction of Korea in Eskişehir. Agreement is signed up with the Korean company and the trains will have high speed over 300 km/h.

But also Turkey won't inport the rails anymore, because Eskişehir factories will produce the rails.

Here are the all railway projects
http://www.ubak.gov.tr/tr/alt/guncel/demiryolu.pdf

and here is the source of the news
http://bakaa.sitemynet.com/

I also read this news yesterday on the all papers... wonderful improvment... :eek:kay:
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Turkey produces High Speed Train

Turkey is going to prodcue the the haigh speed trains with the coproduction of korean company. The trains wich will be produced in Eskişehir will have over 300 km/h speed. Eskişehir factories will also prodcue the rails, instead of import...

all projects...http://www.ubak.gov.tr/tr/alt/guncel/demiryolu.pdf
and the source http://bakaa.sitemynet.com/
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i thought
in Adapazari, Sakarya??!!
Wonderful news! :eek:kay:
The blue passenger DH-4 express train thats at the bottom of that document is being produced in Iran for RAJA (Iranian Passenger Railway Operator). Is TCDD buying some of these for itself? I dont know Turkish, what does it say abut them?
RAJA (iran, tehran-Mashabad intercity conection ~1000km )
DH-4 express train= is a product of siemens TS and not RAJA, RAJA job is only assembly this train sets.
DH-4 express train= is not a high speet train and used only disel engiens (max 160 km/h)


but turkey canceled this project(because turkish railways industry can produce is own experss diesel train sets (TUVASAS)
Tuvasas disel train set (under construction)


after this canceled project turkey decided to this one
CAF ATPRD s-120 max speed 250km/h (better than 160km/h)

Rotem build this HSR train sets (their own tech.) maybe turkey produce thios HSR train sets max speeds 350km/h


Tukish HSR lines (under construction)



Ankara-Istanbul
http://www.hizlitren.gov.tr





Ankara- Konya

TECHNICAL DETAILS
TOTAL LENGTH: 305 KM
ANKARA-POLATLI (existing line): 96 KM
POLATLI-KONYA: 209 KM
PROJECT SPEED: 250 KPH
TRAVELLING TIME (FOR PASSENGER ): 1 HOUR, 15 MINUTES
TRAVELLING TIME (FOR FREIGHT ): 3 HOURS, 40 MINUTES
MAX. GRADIENT: �16,5
MIN. CURVE RADIUS: 6500 M
PROJECT COST (SUPERSTRUCTURE): 280 MILLION $


Bursa- osmaneli

TECHNICAL DETAILS
TOTAL LENGTH: 105 KM
PROJECT SPEED:250 KPH
TOTAL COST: 300 MILLION $

Ankara - Sivas

Ankara - Izmir
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3emperor said:
DH-4 express train= is a product of siemens TS and not RAJA, RAJA job is only assembly this train sets.
Pars Wagon will assemble the trains for RAJA with some Iranian components. Thanx 3emperor! Thats interesting about Tuvasas making the trains. Are they making them at the moment? Also are the CAF trains in use yet? Are these trains electric or diesel?
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Pars Wagon will assemble the trains for RAJA with some Iranian components. Thanx 3emperor! Thats interesting about Tuvasas making the trains. Are they making them at the moment? Also are the CAF trains in use yet? Are these trains electric or diesel?
Tuvasas has big R&D center and they finnished at time with this work, now they build an prototype for testing the train.

CAF trains are electric and TCDD tests this train at the and of 2006.
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Why does Tuvasas build only diesel HS-train sets? :(
IYi haberler var, :D

Sivas-Ankara hatti ihale asamasina gelmis.
Polatli-Izmir hatti da ihale asamasinda.

http://85.105.135.163/v3/haber_ayrinti.php?id=164

Biliyorsunuz, 2006 Eylul' u Ankara-Eskisehir hatti bitiyor. 2008 e Istanbul a uzanacak hat. Bunlar geyik haberler.

Bursa TCDD sunumunda 2006 sonu ya da 2007 basi ihale edilecek deniyor. Isteyene o sunumu bulurum, ama burada herkes tren delisi benim gibi (Irfan abi de Havaalani delisi) :D, simdi vakit harcamayayim link bulmaya.

Kisaca hepsinin ihalesi 1-2 yil icinde yapilacak.

Siki durun, esasli haber geliyor:

Aslinda Bandirma-Izmir demiryolu (yuk treni ulasimi odakli) arastirmasi yapiyordum. Bu hat bilen bilir 2004 te kapatildi, simdi tekrar aciliyor. Tabii bir de baktim, Izmir-Istanbul otoyolu projesi:

http://www.yenimesaj.com.tr/index.php?sayfa=ekonomi&haberno=9600&tarih=2006-04-02

Yap islet devret modeli ile yapilacakmis, ilk baslarda bu projeyi baslatanlara cok kiziyordum (4 milyar USD, toplam Hizli tren projeleri neredeyse), tabii sonradan yap islet devret oldugunu ogrendim. Boylelikle, otoyol projesi devlete butce acisindan yuk olmayacak, demiryolu projeleri saglikli bir sekilde ilerleyecek.

Bandirma-Izmir arasina elektrifikasyon dusunuluyor mu? Bunu bilen var mi?
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güzel ilerleme!

ankara-eskisehir hsr 6-7 ay icersinde hizmete girecek!
Bandirma Izmir arasindaki 300 kusur kilometrelik yolun, 100 kusur km si sil bastan yapiliyor. Yani butun raylari sok, tekrar tak. Hani su raylarin altina konulan tahtalar da artik beton oluyor ki bu hizin artisi icin bir etken.

Bir de tahmin ediyorum hizli tren icin kullanilan uzun ray demirlerinden kullaniliyor olmali. Sonuc olarak bu hattin asli gorevi yuk trenleri icin, cunku ben inaniyorum, Izmir' e bir hizli tran hatti da, Bursa-Balikesir-Izmir olarak Osmaneli uzerinden Istanbul' a baglanacak.

Ankara-Istanbul arasinda oldugu gibi, eski hat da modernize edilmis bir sekilde Yuk trenlerine verilecek. Bu da tabii kontrol odasina ekstra ferahlama getirir, arti, fazla ray goz cikarmaz. ;)

Fazla otoyol da goz cikarmaz. ;)

Ama, aman otoyollar cepten cikan paralar ile degil, yap islet devret ile yapilsin.
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I am sure next project will be Bursa-Izmir, but first Eskişehir-Ankara must be openned in this fall...
Yes i thik the next logical step after Ankara-İstanbul is Izmir-İstanbul
But Bandırma-İzmir won't be a highspeed line, will it?
if it is then lengthening the line to Bursa is not very costly, thn together with the Bursa-Osmaneli line İzmir will be connected with İstanbul.
Bandırma-İzmir won't be the high speed line, but, the line is coming to Bursa first and then it is easy to costract a new line between Bursa and İzmir. It is neccessarily imo, not only for İzmir, for whole Aegean Region...
Çok güzel haberler. Bir ülkenin gelişmişliğini trenlerine bakarak ölçebilirsiniz.

Bu konuda tüm komşulara fark atacağız çok yakında. :D
meow said:
Yes i thik the next logical step after Ankara-İstanbul is Izmir-İstanbul
But Bandırma-İzmir won't be a highspeed line, will it?
if it is then lengthening the line to Bursa is not very costly, thn together with the Bursa-Osmaneli line İzmir will be connected with İstanbul.

herseyi ozetleyeyim:

Cift Hatli, sadece yolcu (Belki alinirsa posta treni - TGV posta treni var - yani hafif yuk trenleri) tasimak icin Hizli Tren hatlari:

1) Eskisehir-Ankara: 2006 Eylulu bitecek.
2) Eskisehir-Istanbul: 2008 de bitecek.
3) Konya-polatli (Eskisehir-Ankara hattindan bir kol): 2007 (belki 8) de bitecek
4) Sivas-Ankara: 2007 de ihale edilecek gibi
5) Bursa-Osmaneli (Istanbul-Eskisehir hattindan bir kol): 2007 de ihale edilecek.
6) Polatli-Afyon-Usak-Izmir: 2007 de ihale edilmesi olasi.

Tek hatli, modernize edilmis, yuk trenleri icin makul olan en yuksek seyahat icin tasarlanmis demiryolu hatlari:

1) Istanbul-Eskisehir-Ankara: Bildigimiz eski hat. 500+ kilometrelik yol tamamen modernize edildi, beton traversler kullanildi, full elektrifikasyonlu ve tamamen yuk trenleri icin ayrildi.

2) Bandirma-Balikesir-Izmir: Yine bu hat da modernize edildi, Istanbul-Ankara' dan tek farki, elektrifikasyon yok. Amac, Bandirma' dan feribot uzerinden Istanbul' a Izmir' in yukunun tasinmasi.

3) Balikesir-Kutahya-Eskisehir: Bu yil icerisinde modernizasyon baslayacak, zaten kanimca coktan baslamistir da. Istanbul-Ankara' dan tek farki, elektrifikasyon yok.

4) Ankara-Kayseri-Sivas-Erzurum: Yine bu yil modernizasyon baslayacak. Istanbul-Ankara' dan tek farki, elektrifikasyon yok.

Kisaca bu son 4 hat, tamamen yuk tasimaciligi icin hazirlanan hatlar, buyuk ihtimalle merak etmeyin, buralara da kataner bir ara takilir. Tabii ki yolcu trenleri gidecek bu hatlarda ancak dedigim gibi amac yuk tasimaciligi. Yuk trenlerini 250km/s hizla ilerletmeye luzum yok. Tabii ki zamanla bu hatlardaki sert virajlar duzeltilebilir. Yalniz sunu bilin, bizde trenlerin hizini virajlar degil de, raylarin eskimis olmasi, ahsap traversler etkiliyor. Modernize edildiginde hatlar, ulasim suresi cok kisalacaktir emin olun.
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