I can not see how a single currency will work without further fiscal, economic and political union. It seems to be a path towards federalism. If we stay we can expect more and more legislation to prop up this agenda. I am all for a 'common market' but that goal seems to have long been supplanted with a 'United States of Europe' idealism. The bigger government gets the less democratic it becomes. I currently feel torn. I have been a long term advocate of the European Union but am now wavering.
Britain is not and in our lifetime will not be part of the Eurozone. Nor is it subject to the Schengen Agreement. If the United States of Europe was to ever happen, the UK would not be part of it. But it must be part of the EU. There are democratic issues with the EU, but so too are there democratic issues with the UK - a house of lords appointed in a similar fashion to the EC and with the power in some circumstances to override the house of commons, a non-elected head of state, a democratic system that allows a party to redraw constituencies to further their own causes. The EU isn't perfect but it can be improved - and is indeed being so. One thing is for certain, British Parliament has never stood up for workers rights quite as strongly as the EU does. In with bells on.
It's certainly not an isolated case. As I remarked in another thread:Just had our first main project definitively go on hold pending outcome of the referendum. Part US backers will not invest apparently if the UK votes to leave.
Just an anecdote to be taken on its merits. I'm not going to extrapolate too much from it.
Many decisions with respect to real estate investment in London (personal and corporate) are currently being deferred until the referendum, pending the result.
True. Our lot would've signed us up to the TTIP long ago.The EU doesn't make us more a part of the global stage, it insulates us from it. Our links to the outside world are largely governed by the negotiations of unelected foreigners on our behalf. Imagine how long ago we could have had a free-trade agreement with India or China had we been outside of this political straight-jacket.
Someone who actually has a high awareness and speaks sense. Nice to see.The fact we are even having this referendum has been a disaster for the UK.
The EU will never look at us the same way even if we remain, constantly questioning our loyalty to the EU.
We should be at the forefront of the EU project, as a nation that has conceivably gone through every stage of world power from small nation island to vast empire and back again we should be sharing our knowledge and experience of maintaining vast alliances and democracy, not believing we are capable of existing on the fringes of a growing union with nothing more than our past glories and fragmented commonwealth to sustain us. The whole notion is ridiculous as we approach the second quarter of the 21st century.
I'm almost thinking about not voting because the Yes vote doesn't even reflect my opinion; it's very much a Yes with making us an even closer alliance with the future of Europe and our existence in the ever-closer global stage.
How is the EU democratic? Our MEPs have little to no power and no say in creating/proposing new legislation.The EU isn't perfect but it is democratic , we are better placed within the EU when we can influence policy and decision making than being outside and looking in.
Besides i don't trust this current government with issues regarding the environment and civil liberties , if we were to leave.
We elect our representatives by PR rather than the winner takes all FTFP. Under this system UKIP has 25 MEPs rather than 1 MP.How is the EU democratic? Our MEPs have little to no power and no say in creating/proposing new legislation.
The European Commission and its 28 commissioners create new legislation none of which are elected by us or necessarily have our interests at heart (why would they?). The EU is many things but democratic it is not