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no where really to talk about this issue so here we are ... ( dont know if it will last ) .

Most Canadians like government's direction: poll
CTV.ca News Staff



Most Canadians are comfortable with the Conservatives' priorities, including voters who picked other parties in the last election, according to a new poll.

Fifty-six per cent of those surveyed said the government's goals, as outlined in the recent Speech from the Throne, are similar to their own. Nine per cent said they were identical.

The poll outlined five major Conservative priorities:

Getting tough on crime;
Reducing the GST from 7 per cent to 6 per cent;
Giving families with children younger than six years old a $1,200 subsidy for childcare;
Reducing hospital wait times; and,
Increasing accountability in government.
The poll was conducted for CTV and The Globe and Mail by the Strategic Counsel, which interviewed 1,000 Canadians from April 6-9. The margin of error is 3.1 percentage points, 19 times in 20.

"Normally we have a halo or a bandwagon or a honeymoon effect that takes place in the first little while (after an election) where people's instincts are to feel good about the decision that was made even if they did not participate in the decision," Strategic Counsel chairman Allan Gregg told The Globe and Mail.

"In a climate of cynicism, such as we're seeing now, that comes to a crashing close very quickly. So the fact that (Prime Minister Stephen Harper) has been able to sustain his numbers, in fact increase them a little bit in terms of popular vote, and have it more or less solidify the result that he received in late January is pretty positive."

When respondents were asked how they would vote today, 39 per cent said they would choose a Conservative candidate -- three points higher than the 36 per cent who voted for the party in the last election.

While the New Democrats enjoyed about 17 per cent of the popular vote in January, only 14 per cent polled said they would now vote NDP -- a drop of three points. Twenty-nine per cent said they would choose Liberal, and 11 per cent favoured the Bloc Québécois.

Meanwhile, 26 per cent of Canadians said Prime Minister Stephen Harper and his government is doing a good job, 10 per cent said they are doing a very good job, and 37 per cent said they were just average.

whats also cool ? This is my 800th POST ! :)
 

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Layton not interested in alliance with Liberals

MONTREAL -- The federal Liberals are wasting their time trying to persuade the New Democrats to form an alliance of so-called left-wing forces in an attempt to take power back from Stephen Harper's Conservatives, says NDP Leader Jack Layton.

In an interview with a Montreal newspaper, Layton said the Liberals are far from a left-wing party and that the sponsorship scandal has tarnished the party's image for a long time to come, especially in Quebec.

Layton added that the NDP risks sabotaging the gains the party has made in Quebec and the rest of Canada if it aligns itself with the Liberals.

Last week, several Liberal leadership hopefuls - notably former Ontario NDP premier Bob Rae and former Harvard professor Michael Ignatieff - called on "progressive forces" to unite in order counter Harper's government.

"To unite things, there has to be a similarity between those things," Layton told a newspaper in an interview published Saturday.

"I don't find the Liberal party to be a left-wing party. From time to time, they take on a left-wing facade. But if you examine its policies and its record while in power, it's not left-wing.

As examples, Layton pointed to Pierre Trudeau's controversial decision to invoke the War Measures Act during the October Crisis of 1970 and large corporate tax cuts under the governments of Paul Martin and Jean Chretien.

The NDP leader also said he isn't attaching much importance to the Liberal leadership race.

"The Liberal party leadership race can't be considered something serious," he told the French-language daily. "People look at the race like it's a soap opera."

Last May, the NDP agreed to support Paul Martin's minority government in exchange for increased spending on social and environmental programs in the Liberal budget.

But Layton told a newspaper that during their last months in power, he realized the Liberals lacked vision.

The NDP eventually withdrew its support for the Liberals, triggering January's election that saw the Tories take power for the first time since 1993.
 

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Rhino said:
Layton not interested in alliance with Liberals
But Layton told a newspaper that during their last months in power, he realized the Liberals lacked vision.
No, they lacked power. I wouldn't be surprised if Layton tried to cuddle up with Harper.

(Yes, that is a double entendre)
 

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Well, since they haven't actually done any of those things, what's the point?


Getting tough on crime;

As opposed to what...promoting crime??? What a non-issue. The only thing they have gotten tough on, are the portuguese immigrants they booted out with 10 minutes notice.



Reducing the GST from 7 per cent to 6 per cent;

Well, I'm still paying 7%. And they haven't told me how the feds having less revenue is going to help me.




Giving families with children younger than six years old a $1,200 subsidy for childcare;

Oh yea...must fit into that "traditional family values" the conservatives like to pretend is the only lifestyle worthwhile.




Reducing hospital wait times;

That's provincial. What are they going to do...hand money over to the provinces for this? Or maybe it means two-tier health care? You know...the people who wait less are the ones who pay for it?

Where's all this money coming from to fund kids in nice christian families and increasing hospital services....all that less tax revenue??????





"Increasing accountability in government."


Oh...we already have great accountability for the christian conservatives....it's called a minority government.








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Hey KGB this is a democractic country and all 5 of his points HAVE to go through the house. I know PM JC and PM PM liked to do things behind the scenes but Harper still has to have his session of paliament. (so time will tell) Like his 5 items or not its refreshing to actually see someone doing exactly what they campaigned on. I have 13 years of red book crap that was never even done. Hey wasn't scrap the GST a PM JC idea that was supposed to be put in by PM PM when he was minister of finance?
 

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"Hey KGB this is a democractic country"


What a profound statement.








"its refreshing to actually see someone doing exactly what they campaigned on."


Well, he hasn't actually done those things, so right now, he's no different than any other PM, promising goodies to get votes.

And I really don't care if the GST is 7% 6% or 0% The feds need X amount of revenue. It doesn't matter what government it is, they all waste our money...a Harper government isn't going to be any different....pretending they are means you are a sucker. What are they going to do...trade the surplus in for a one-point drop in GST?

The stuff I do care about is what worries me....taxes and health care will be a political football every election til the end of time....but christian fundementalists who have an agenda to legislate their wonky religious beliefs is something that needs to be watched very carefully....even if they are keeping it low-key at the monent.







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This just in!!!

The Conservatives secret agenda... To convert the entire country to Christianity!!!

:sleepy: I wouldn't run away in fear just yeat KGB, you know... Not all tories/people who may have voted conservative are bible thumping, christian fundamentalists who wish to legislate their wonky beliefs. They're also not out to get you... So you don't have to act so... Oh I dunno... Paranoid?
 

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...Not all tories/people who may have voted conservative are bible thumping, christian fundamentalists who wish to legislate their wonky beliefs....
That may be the case, but those moderates are blindly offering their suppourt to those "wonky" people who are/do.
 

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Layton is a sell out and so are the NDP's

We gave up a government and a prime minister who was responsible for the 8 straight years of Surplus our fat beaver asses have been enjoying.
 

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"I wouldn't run away in fear just yeat KGB"


What makes you think I intend to run? What makes you think I am afraid?

On the contray, I intend to stay and fight.







"you know... Not all tories/people who may have voted conservative are bible thumping, christian fundamentalists who wish to legislate their wonky beliefs."


But the people running the government are...that's why I'm talking about them.







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