As far as i'm concerned, if it's within the M25, it's in London. Simple as that.
The city or county of London - Where officially are its boundaries?
As title, where and what exactly constitutes as officially been in London?
Eg, Is it any land inside the M25 boundary? If so then is Croydon part of London, Greater London, Surrey or? - Even though it has no compass point postcodes? therefore Is Romford in Essex, London or both?
Which counties or towns make up London, or Greater London? Can it ever be explained simply or is always going to be a Greater Manchester type debate?
Eg, Is it any land inside the M25 boundary? If so then is Croydon part of London, Greater London, Surrey or? - Even though it has no compass point postcodes? therefore Is Romford in Essex, London or both?
Which counties or towns make up London, or Greater London? Can it ever be explained simply or is always going to be a Greater Manchester type debate?
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The City of London is the historical core of London......what is now the square mile.
The County of London boundaries have changed many times over the years, as the metropolis has grown.....
As for other meanings for London and its constituent parts depends on where you look. There is no solid or universally agreed definition of what makes up London.
Most people take London as what is inside the M25.
I could give you a history lesson on how the counties were created etc....they haven't changed that much since the industrial revolution and expansion of the cities.
The County of London boundaries have changed many times over the years, as the metropolis has grown.....
As for other meanings for London and its constituent parts depends on where you look. There is no solid or universally agreed definition of what makes up London.
Most people take London as what is inside the M25.
I could give you a history lesson on how the counties were created etc....they haven't changed that much since the industrial revolution and expansion of the cities.
The City of London is the small area in the centre of London, controlled by the local authority The City of London Corporation. I would define London as a wider area defined by the Greater London administrative division, made of the 32 London boroughs.
London is synonymous with Greater London, or the 32 boroughs and the City and the area the Mayor and GLA have a remit over. Whenever stats are used (e.g. population) or a profile made (e.g. Wiki) or whatever that is what is meant. People may refer to anywhere inside the M25 as being in London but that is never used in the media or officially.
Personally, I think the 'Greater' should be dropped because it is now a misnomer and just confuses people - it seems only people in the 50s and above actually use it in everyday speech anyway. It's also not accurate since its roots are when London meant the County of London, so as to denote the metro area. That though is no longer the case, albeit there is no official national definition of the current metro area.
Personally, I think the 'Greater' should be dropped because it is now a misnomer and just confuses people - it seems only people in the 50s and above actually use it in everyday speech anyway. It's also not accurate since its roots are when London meant the County of London, so as to denote the metro area. That though is no longer the case, albeit there is no official national definition of the current metro area.
The boundaries ought to be expanded. Places like Dartford are quiet clearly London (and outside the M25).
My mistake! I always think of Dartford as being outside because Bluewater is. Of course if you include Dartford as London you should really include Gravesend as well.
Personally, I don't think the 32 boroughs constitute the whole of London. There are places that are in the surrounding counties that I would consider to be suburbs of London - many of those places lie within the M25 but are not part of one of the 32 boroughs.
Anything within the 32 boroughs. However, I'd accept anything inside the M25.
You know you're in London when you see a red bus.
Not sure if they'd want to be absorbed into London though, not least due to increases in Council Tax! Compared to other major cities it's amazing how large the administrative boundaries of London actually are. Even the area which was the City of Tokyo and New York are a good portion smaller than London. Heck, even the City of LA covers a smaller area!The boundaries ought to be expanded. Places like Dartford are quiet clearly London (and outside the M25).
Places like Watford are within the M25, on the tube map but not part of the 32 boroughs, does it count?
Be interesting if you could show a comparison (through pictures) of what you have explained aginst the likes of New York, Tokyo, Paris etc?Not sure if they'd want to be absorbed into London though, not least due to increases in Council Tax! Compared to other major cities it's amazing how large the administrative boundaries of London actually are. Even the area which was the City of Tokyo and New York are a good portion smaller than London. Heck, even the City of LA covers a smaller area!
I don't think Watford is in London. If Watford is, then places like Slough should be counted. I don't think Slough or Watford are in London... they are just outside.
But London councils have some of the lowest council tax rates in the country- even the most prosperous areas.Not sure if they'd want to be absorbed into London though, not least due to increases in Council Tax! !
http://www.westminster.gov.uk/servi...emocracy/councils/counciltaxandfinance/bands/
The M25 is a good boundry, for example Runnymede isn't in Greater London but it is essentially London Suburbia. Also, places like Slough, Woking, hell even Guildford are essentially London as they feed off it.
Funny story actually, a friend of mine grew up in Chessington, in the London Borough of Kingston upon Thames... she had an Oyster Card and used the London Busses to get to school then college (before moving to Pompey for uni), her phone book has LONDON all over it yet she never knew she lived in London till she was 19, when I threw wikipedia at her.
Funny story actually, a friend of mine grew up in Chessington, in the London Borough of Kingston upon Thames... she had an Oyster Card and used the London Busses to get to school then college (before moving to Pompey for uni), her phone book has LONDON all over it yet she never knew she lived in London till she was 19, when I threw wikipedia at her.
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