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The Majority Rules: The Area of Louisiana That the US Will Forfeit...Life Has A Price

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Where is the area that the US will not protect because it is too expensive and who lives there? ...This is the area that we can call goodbye...this area is part of history. Levee protection has been denied and we can tell one small part of Amercian culture a sad goodbye. Nature has won the war.....

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The government doesn't really protect people from nature, or at least it does a really crappy job. Last time I checked, government action hasn't stopped earthquakes, tornados, thunderstorms, hurricanes, or zombies. And zombies are fictional. The government may help clean up the mess, but they don't really protect people from anything natural.

And if you are wish for government protection for this area, you should watch what you wish for. Its just as likely that they would just evit everyone who lives there. That "protects" them too doesn't it?
sogod, weird saying that name....I'm just showing what we are giving up. I never stated my position or that the reason the US is letting all of this go b/c it will cost almost $2 Billion to protect them. Did I? I'm not saying that I agree or disagree. Maybe the pics are speaking to you!?! I live in New Orleans...we've got another $4 Billion coming our way to protect us with proper levees (although, I think that the whole thing is a total fiasco). The point of my thread is that, it has been decided that the price of protection is too much for this area and the people. They have not been told to leave, but, they have been told, as of this week, that the US will not give them proper protection.
Nature has won the war
America can't seem to win any war these days. Nature, Iraq, Terror, Drugs.
Maybe you should just pack it in as a Nation.
[email protected]_Coast said:
America can't seem to win any war these days. Nature, Iraq, Terror, Drugs.
Maybe you should just pack it in as a Nation.
LOL...God help the world if that would occur!!!
I had a place down there. Pre-Katrina levees will be in place, but certified levees... the kind you need to get insurance, will not be. At least that's the way it looks. It's suprising because of all the oil service industries down there, and the fact that it's home to over 14,000 people. But, insurance privilages will be grandfathered out. In other words, people who were there before can maintain their policy and rebuild, but no new policies will be written. That said, when I rebuild, it will be elevated 15 feet, at least. It's really sad because at the heart of it, a decision has been made to abandon this area, at least long term, when solutions to the erroding coast are out there. Bottom line is, we'll just have to do it ourselves, and that's ok. When we get our oil royalties, which I believe will happen... all areas will be protected substantially and properly. It's just going to take a while.
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Cannon...the area has been abandoned and rejected. Plaquemines Parish has been written off...in spite of the people, the wealth, and the livelihood, it's over for those people down there. The government is weasling it's way out of protection....16,000 people (even though they are wealthy), is not a precedent for protection. In my opinion, it is a failure on real, affluent tax payers. The area has been rejected by US taxpayers and the government, which is a frightening precedent for future natural occurences.
What is it like down there, I mean to live. Is there everything you need up and running like before. Schools, Hospitals, jobs....?
God whats the price of one county versus the entire city of New Orleans?
That's really sad for the people in the area, but in certain circumstances I have to question going to war with nature...
[email protected]_Coast said:
What is it like down there, I mean to live. Is there everything you need up and running like before. Schools, Hospitals, jobs....?
It's all good...we're actually hitting issues that need to be hit. Money is back, income is up for those that have returned, all stats are what you would want....let us hit issues where "the rubber meets the road." It's getting good, now....
Sean, like I said, I had a house down there. It's destroyed now, but it'll be back. I have many friends down there as well. But you are off base by saying that these people are wealthy. Most are poor. But that's not the issue.

I agree that the federal gov't has turned their back on them. But I also wouldn't say that it's "over" for them. If it is, someone needs to go down there and tell them because many are rebuilding. Water service is back... power and gas are also back. In the long term, the state of Louisiana will not allow that area to return to nature. That is, if we get our oil royalties. If not, pre Katrina levees will be in place, but structures will be uninsurable unless elevated. Believe me, I've been going back and forth with my insurance company about it, along with parish officials during my rebuild. So, bottom line is this:

1)No levees: people elevate their homes and businesses
2)Certified new levees: business as usual on the road to a prosperous future

However, to say that the parish is done forever is premature at best. My place, currently being reconstructed is 3 miles south of Buras... the point of first landfall. Plaquemines will be there for years to come. What kind of shape it takes is another question. Probably a lot less people and services, but the same amount of oil service. I wouldn't give up on it yet, even though I do agree that the feds have.

To the question of "what is down there?"... I was just there about 2 weeks ago. Aside from a few tents or small trailers selling convenience store-type items, there is nothing. Almost 100% of all structures were destroyed, and few have started to rebuild. So, quite literally, nothing is available down there. But one thing that the area will always have is great fishing, and that's why I'm rebuilding my place. Interesting fact is that a few times, that area was named the world's best fishing spot. :)
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Yeah...there's some poverty around Buras and parts of Port Sulphur, but, I know quite a few individuals down there that pull in over 300K a year that are having to give it all up.
[email protected]_Coast said:
America can't seem to win any war these days. Nature, Iraq, Terror, Drugs.
Maybe you should just pack it in as a Nation.
how about we pack a smart bomb up your ass?

:gunz: :guns1:

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Sean in New Orleans said:
Cannon...the area has been abandoned and The area has been rejected by US taxpayers and the government, which is a frightening precedent for future natural occurences.
Danm right it's frightening, I live on a sandbar in the Gulf of Mexico. I hope my town has learned a lesson from Katrina!
Sean in New Orleans said:
Cannon...the area has been abandoned and The area has been rejected by US taxpayers and the government, which is a frightening precedent for future natural occurences.
Now that's a good point!
HoustonTexas said:
God whats the price of one county versus the entire city of New Orleans?
What's that supposed to mean?
Sean: Perhaps this is not a bad thing. If we could tear down the Mississippi River levees on the east and west banks of lower Plaquemines and allow the spring floods to do their thing, don't you think that, years from now, we'd benefit from restored wetlands?

However, if the government were to adopt an approach that basically sacrifices the land that is owned and/or occupied in southern Plaquemines Parish, then the government should pay.

Why? Because the rest of the country has benefitted from the drilling, dredging, and destruction that has occurred in Louisiana, all of which has been at the expense of our state.

(It would be interesting, though, to see how our neighbors would react if the government were to propose the sacrifice of Galveston Island.)
[email protected]_Coast said:
America can't seem to win any war these days. Nature, Iraq, Terror, Drugs.
Maybe you should just pack it in as a Nation.
:laugh:
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