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2 Craig Lowndes 0 183 183
3 Todd Kelly 0 162 162
4 Steven Johnson 0 141 141
5 Paul Weel 0 141 141
6 Russell Ingall 0 138 138
7 Paul Dumbrell 0 135 135
8 Cameron McConville 0 129 129
9 Rick Kelly 0 126 126
10 Jason Bright 0 108 108
11 Paul Morris 0 108 108
12 Steven Richards 0 105 105
13 Jamie Whincup 0 102 102
14 Brad Jones 0 99 99
15 Paul Radisich 0 99 99
16 Glenn Seton 0 96 96
17 Mark Skaife 0 90 90
18 Steve Owen 0 84 84
19 Mark Winterbottom 0 84 84
20 Greg Murphy 0 81 81
21 Garth Tander 0 78 78
22 Max Wilson 0 78 78
23 David Besnard 0 75 75
24 John Bowe 0 63 63
25 Anthony Tratt 0 63 63
26 Matthew White 0 63 63
27 Andrew Jones 0 51 51
28 Craig Baird 0 4
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29 Simon Wills 0 42 42
30 Jason Richards 0 39 39
31 Alex Davison 0 36 36
32 Jason Bargwanna 0 0 0
33 Steve Ellery 0 0 0
34 Greg Ritter 0 0 0
 

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Practice One -NZ

1 Pirtek Racing Marcos Ambrose Ford Falcon BA 5000 46 46 0:55.8130R
2 11 Team Perkins Racing Steven Richards Holden Commodore VY 5000 47 44 0:55.8320r 0:00.0190
3 021 Team Kiwi Racing Paul Radisich Holden Commodore VZ 5000 43 40 0:55.8891r 0:00.0761
4 2 Holden Racing Team Mark Skaife Holden Commodore VZ 5000 38 36 0:55.8961r 0:00.0831
5 16 HSV Dealer Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VZ 5000 48 48 0:55.9365r 0:00.1235
6 888 Team Betta Electrical Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon BA 5000 49 39 0:55.9994r 0:00.1864
7 23 Tasman Motorsport Jamie Whincup Holden Commodore VZ 5000 45 43 0:56.0464r 0:00.2334
8 24 Team Perkins Racing Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VY 5000 50 49 0:56.0953r 0:00.2823
9 51 Super Cheap Auto Racing Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VZ 5000 50 41 0:56.1533r 0:00.3403
10 67 Sirromet-Life, Style, Wine Paul Morris Holden Commodore VZ 5000 52 51 0:56.1774r 0:00.3644
11 15 HSV Dealer Team Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VZ 5000 44 42 0:56.1807r 0:00.3677
12 3 Tasman Motorsport Jason Richards Holden Commodore VZ 5000 38 33 0:56.1927r 0:00.3797
13 18 Westpoint Racing Glenn Seton Ford Falcon BA 5000 51 49 0:56.2037r 0:00.3907
14 12 Team BOC John Bowe Ford Falcon BA 5000 44 40 0:56.2160r 0:00.4030
15 22 Holden Racing Team Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VZ 5000 45 43 0:56.2199r 0:00.4069
16 88 Team Betta Electrical Steve Ellery Ford Falcon BA 5000 51 40 0:56.2221r 0:00.4091
17 48 WPS David Besnard Ford Falcon BA 5000 44 40 0:56.2359r 0:00.4229
18 21 Team BOC Brad Jones Ford Falcon BA 5000 51 51 0:56.2421r 0:00.4291
19 17 Westpoint Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon BA 5000 45 41 0:56.2592r 0:00.4462
20 50 Super Cheap Auto Racing Paul Weel Holden Commodore VZ 5000 43 42 0:56.2873r 0:00.4743
21 9 Caltex Racing Russell Ingall Ford Falcon BA 5000 49 48 0:56.2896r 0:00.4766
22 33 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VZ 5000 52 52 0:56.3699 0:00.5569
23 75 Toll Racing Anthony Tratt Holden Commodore VY 5000 49 47 0:56.5282 0:00.7152
24 6 Ford Performance Racing Jason Bright Ford Falcon BA 5000 51 47 0:56.5344 0:00.7214
25 45 WOW Sight & Sound Max Wilson Holden Commodore VZ 5000 40 38 0:56.5444 0:00.7314
26 20 Larkham Orrcon Racing Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon BA 5000 43 43 0:56.6163 0:00.8033
27 8 WPS Racing Craig Baird Ford Falcon BA 5000 40 35 0:56.7989 0:00.9859
28 44 Team Dynamik Simon Wills Holden Commodore VZ 5000 39 32 0:56.8021 0:00.9891
29 10 Larkham Orrcon Racing Jason Bargwanna Ford Falcon BA 5000 45 38 0:56.8096 0:00.9966
30 5 Ford Performance Racing Greg Ritter Ford Falcon BA 5000 44 43 0:56.9240 0:01.1110
31 52 Britek Motorsport Matthew White Ford Falcon BA 5000 50 49 0:57.1319 0:01.318932 34 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Andrew Jones Holden Commodore VZ 5000 52 52 0:57.7196 0:01.9066
 

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BJ's crash was interesting. I remember a similar thing happening to Ayrton Senna in the early 90s in testing somewhere... He spun off, hit the tyre barriers sideways and the car bounced back and flipped over.

I've always been skeptical about the conditions of the Pukekohe circuit. The horse jumps down the back straight (which I've seen a car spear off and smash through in the NZ V8 tourers) are very dodgy, as is the way the wall on the inside of the back straight towards the end -- when the cars are at about 250km/h -- comes in at what looks like almost 90 degrees to the track. Wouldn't want to get punted off the inside of the track at the kink and smash right into it, would you?

Another of my concerns was the fence right where Craig Baird smashed into in the Race 3 crash. There was a normal wooden fence covered only by a small hedge, which is absolutely unheard of in any international-class track design. A bit more of a runoff area would be the best, but because of the horse track it should still be an actual barrier. At Watkins Glen in the U.S. they put big styrofoam boxes in front of the barrier that absorbs impacts... Perhaps that's what they should replace the hedge with (and the wooden fence with some more armco).

Other than what I consider to be the poor upkeep of the circuit, it produces some fantastic racing. It was very entertaining yesterday.
 

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Hopefully Puka will stay on the schedule for next year, rather that it going to the streets of Wellington.
I hear that Townsville ( "Mt Isa by the sea ;)" as Neil Crompton calls it...... ) and Bahrain might be added to the schedule next year at the expense of Melbourne's F1 round.
 

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Well Melbourne's round doesn't give out any points, it's only a support race for the Friday and Saturday fans in Albert Park, but next year it will be much later than March, because of the Commonwealth games, so perhaps the season could be earlier than the Clipsal 500. But Pukekohe looks awfully outdated for me, pity for a race with excitement. Though Wellington next year I've read still isn't fully secure.

Shame I wasn't able to record Dumbrell and Baird's huge as crash. Would've loved that for future viewing:D

Ingall or Lowndes for the title:D
 

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Ambrose has had it with V8Supercar's and well we all know he's going to Nascar, but he is really pissed of atm he is not having any un at all. All the media attention about his racing style and the fact tin top racing is not what he wanted to ever do his lost it.

I mean it has not effected his racing yet but by the end of the year he will be happy to leave. I mean he raced against button and coulthard in eurupe once, and look were he is.
 

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I confess i havnt been following this year. Nor was i following last year....ever since that big blue oval biatch knocked holden of top spot ;)
 

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Ambrose has had it with V8Supercar's and well we all know he's going to Nascar, but he is really pissed of atm he is not having any un at all. All the media attention about his racing style and the fact tin top racing is not what he wanted to ever do his lost it.

I mean it has not effected his racing yet but by the end of the year he will be happy to leave. I mean he raced against button and coulthard in eurupe once, and look were he is.
He wasnt on V8 Superstars on CH 10 yesterday so Rusty had to do all of the PR work for him.
Love those V8's man, wonder what crowed will turn up at Shanghai this weekend 10,000 ??? Be really interesting to see what sort of marketing has happened in China for this event and how the chinese react to it all esp when they are exposed to NASCAR and F1 alot more.
 

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Well.... I'm not too sure of it's pulling power outside Oceania but I'll be watching it... but that blue oval is a worldwide symbol, and I think one of the Holden's is getting a different livery special for the Chinese event.

Is it just one race there, or are they racing like a typical weekend, that is 2-3 races in the weekend?
 

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3 races. A 100km race on Saturday, and two 140km races on Sunday.

Just watched the first two races as the telecast is going on on Ch. 10. I'm very impressed. Absolutely massive crowd there -- the grandstand on the front straight alone holds 40,000 so I'd say there'd be at least 50,000 spectators per day.

I'm enjoying it :)

Edit: Just after Nikki Webster sang the national anthem (!), they said it was 50,000 on day three, bringing the 3-day total to 80,000. Not bad. I'd expect if the V8s went to the U.S. or perhaps even Britain they'd pull a similar, if not higher crowd.
 

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......and on the racing side, it was one hell of a race. Complete Holden domination, though Ambrose should have had the 3rd race had he not listened to his pit crew and stayed out a bit more. He definately had the speed which had been lacking in the first two races. That hairpin certainly didn't disappoint.
 

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Bathurst:

Skaife/Kelly
J. Richards/ otherbloke
Ellery/Macrow

Skaife was the only real top car to stay un damaged through the race, yet again like last year ford was fastest at the mountian but shit goes against us again. When will the wait be over!

What a mess
 

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There would have been a possible chance had Murphy hit the back of Marcos. But it sets the V8s up for a big showdown in Surfers Paradise for the points, it's bloody close and those barriers of Surfers is as unforgiving as Monaco is to F1 cars

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There would have been a possible chance had Murphy hit the back of Marcos. But it sets the V8s up for a big showdown in Surfers Paradise for the points, it's bloody close and those barriers of Surfers is as unforgiving as Monaco is to F1 cars

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What?! looked like Marcos cut Murphy off, either way it was a fricken mess!
 

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Marcos was infront and murphy did give him enough room. Murphys fault.
 

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Ambrose wasnt fully in front, he was side front on with Murphy, he had momentum with Murphy's car, he was passed the pillar, and in V8 racing rules the other car must let them past if they have momentum on them coming into a corner and the car is past the pillar, Murphy should have let Ambrose through, he didn't knocked his side and spun him Muprhy's fault, but there was no repramand, as no decision could be found on who fault it actually was.
 

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Murphy should have lifted off slightly, he was stuck between a hard place and a rock that climb up in the mountain has absolutely no place for overtaking. To those who watched F1 afterwards it is a bit similar to the Alonso-MS overtaking move in 130R

No stray kangaroos this year, though Lowndes was attacked by a stray dunlop tire :eek:
 
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