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So as not to keep cluttering up the Pinnacle thread; W.R. Berkley in talks with Kohn Pederson Fox (KPF) to design a new 40 story tower on 52-54 Lime Street (27 Leadenhall Street). W.R. Berkley are currently based at 40 Lime Street opposite the Lloyds Building and Willis building and have bought the land.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/0...86B0C220120712
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http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/0...86B0C220120712
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Made a quick mock-up, showing the location and kind of height we should expect:
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Render taken from one of Chest's photos.
http://constructionchest.smugmug.com/
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Ignore this diagram and megalothians. They were made when we thought the location was 40 Lime Street. The actual location is 52-54 Lime Street, a correct diagram is on the next page.
Render taken from one of Chest's photos.
http://constructionchest.smugmug.com/
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Ignore this diagram and megalothians. They were made when we thought the location was 40 Lime Street. The actual location is 52-54 Lime Street, a correct diagram is on the next page.
I wanted to just copy and past the render of 100 Bishopsgate into that location. That’s the sort of thing we should be seeing proposed.
Not if it is 52-54 Lime Street. Seems like the exact location is still not know, unless I'm reading these articles wrong. I'm going to have another go at a massing mockup for that location. My previous one is still accurate if it is going to be on 27 Leadenhall Street.
Still too tall, but probably a more accurate location:
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http://goo.gl/maps/YEog
There are buildings on the site as far down as 27 Leadenhall Street.
http://goo.gl/maps/LWw8
There are buildings on the site as far down as 27 Leadenhall Street.
http://goo.gl/maps/LWw8
And the one attached on the left, hidden behind the church.
We will have to see when the renders come out. It will likely have to be set back in some way because of the Fleet Street/ St Pauls sight line, as the Leadenhall Building is.
It's going to block Willis from the plaza.
Well we will get this view for a while
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Ok this one is probably going to be more accurate height wise.
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It now looks about level in height with 30 St Mary Axe which is 41 stories. There is a bit of persective to deal with as well. Just for comparison, Tower 42 has 47 stories, and is only 2 meters higher than the Gherkin. 20 Fenchurch Street has 36 stories, but has that high roof garden on top which makes it taller than it would otherwise be. We should be looking at a building between 170 and 180 meters. Though a crown of some sort might drag that up a little.
The plot also looks narrow from that angle, so from an east or West elevation it should be quite slender. More so than from a north or south Elevation, though the plot is not particularly big in any direction. We should see somthing quite slender proposed.
It now looks about level in height with 30 St Mary Axe which is 41 stories. There is a bit of persective to deal with as well. Just for comparison, Tower 42 has 47 stories, and is only 2 meters higher than the Gherkin. 20 Fenchurch Street has 36 stories, but has that high roof garden on top which makes it taller than it would otherwise be. We should be looking at a building between 170 and 180 meters. Though a crown of some sort might drag that up a little.
The plot also looks narrow from that angle, so from an east or West elevation it should be quite slender. More so than from a north or south Elevation, though the plot is not particularly big in any direction. We should see somthing quite slender proposed.
That PDF is dated February 2011. Looks like an old proposal. Still has some interesting information though.
Is that including lobby’s, plant floors and architectural features into the average? 165 meters sounds about right when looking at the original proposal height for 100 Bishopsgate, but this site is much more constrained both in foot print and because of the sight line. I think whatever is proposed will be over the 170 meter mark because of this.
Wow 192 meters! Looks like my massing guestimate was about right. That is insanely tall for a 34 storey building. It is possible that it could be passed at that height, it is literally across the road from the Leadenhall building after all. If the height does infringe on the view from a park in Westminster it will be less so than the cheesegrater.
That looks fantastic! Very sleek. Looks quite modern North American and the folded glass is similar to 100 Bishopsgate.
Already been discussed on the last page. 190m should be the AGL height, with 206m being the AOD height.
Indeed, I count 32 visible office floors with the bottom levels obscured by the crop of the image. That should come to 35 office floors. I’m guessing the top spire levels are plant floors, of which I count the space for about 9 right to the tip of the spire. Of course the article states that there are only two of these levels, so what is above them, I have no idea. Empty space?
I'm fine with that. It looks sleek and slender, but it isn't trying to out compete the buildings around it. A welcome addition, not every new building has to be groundbreaking. The one thing it really isn't is ugly. I'm very pleased with the design.
It is a pointy top, you can tell by the floor plates at the very top.
If this and the Pinnacle get built, we will have two KPF buildings, two Richard Rogers buildings, and two Lord Foster buildings all visible from that little square. Not forgetting St Helens, and that little church which survived the Great Fire of London, the Blitz and the IRA bomb down the road!
I'd rather have an architectural spire than a roof garden. Where exactly are you expecting there to be greenery? The site is very tight, literally pavement, then building.
It isn't. That is a different development with a similar crystalline form, on the other side of the City cluster.
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