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Flagler Kenan Pavilion - Palm Beach, Florida - Completed 2005





http://www.hedrickbrothers.com/project/flagler-kenan-pavilion-flagler-museum-palm-beach

Not quite traditional but interesting. Cooper Johnson Smith is one of my favorite modern firms.

Reedy Creek Fire Station - Lake Buena Vista, Florida - Completed


http://www.massfiretrucks.com/PAST%20UPDATES%202011.htm

Tom's Fire Pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/pcfr22/4938446646/

Tom's Fire Pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/pcfr22/4938649332/

Brown University Fitness and Aquatics Center - Providence, Rhode Island - Completed 2012


http://www.mgrear.com/news/brown-university-dedicates-new-aquatics-and-fitness-center-complex/



http://www.brown.edu/Facilities/Building_Brown/projects/afc/#
 
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very nice... ^^ That railroad station would be marvelous if it were ever to be built and used in a working station anywhere in Fla. It is a jewel on its own.
 

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Amazing. I like a lot of it, but some buildings I find...let's say uninspiring. Still, for the most part interesting. Please show more. :cheers:
 

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Here are some from Indiana.

Elkhart, Lerner addition






Randolph County Courthouse addition, Winchester
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After mansard roof and clock tower were removed in the 1950's.

Restoration and addition (addition is the structure on the right)

Addition on the right nearly complete and clock tower restored.

Though this courthouse's addition may seem small compared to some of the new traditional structures being built, it is still a big deal considering that it has been for a long time, custom just to slap a glass box onto the side of the courthouse (or replace the courthouse entirely). In fact, this courthouse was almost demolished five years ago, but was saved in part by a group of elderly women who posed nude for a calendar to raise money to save their courthouse.
 
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WOW ^^ O.O
 

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Some awesome looking projects! :eek:kay:


Great to see historical styles revived so tastefully (mostly) in the US. Please continue to show some more!
 

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Good efforts I think. Not perfect by any means but good tries.

Shelby County, Kentucky Judicial Center - Completed 2012

KY Court of Justice @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/kycourts/7062061877/in/set-72157629430550820/

KY Court of Justice @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/kycourts/6915990406/in/set-72157629430550820

KY Court of Justice @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/kycourts/6915982460/in/set-72157629430550820

KY Court of Justice @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/kycourts/7062056111/in/set-72157629430550820

KY Court of Justice @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/kycourts/6915961706/in/set-72157629430550820

KY Court of Justice @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/kycourts/7062030907/in/set-72157629430550820

Hinesville, Georgia City Hall - Completed 2011

http://ga-hinesville.civicplus.com/gallery.aspx?AID=8

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Traditionalish. They had a limited budget.

Our Lady of Lourdes - Houston, Texas - Completed 2010

 
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A bit of weathering would definitely improve things.
 

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Despite its surbaban surroundings, I really like it! It reminds me of American churches in the 19th century.:cheers:
 

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Wonderful, I think that the traditional architecture can be made in any epoch. Too bad that some people don't agree with that... Unhappily.
 

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In some regards, this neotraditionalism is the natural conclusion of postmodernism, indeed many of these buildings, such as those at UMich and Virginia, were designed by Robert Stern, who is often said to be the "father" of postmodernism. It follows a trend that we've seen times throughout the course of history, the first being the original Greco-Roman classicism, which eventually degenerated (that being descriptive as opposed to derogatory) into Romanesque and eventually Gothic architecture. In the Renaissance we saw a snap back to the classical forms, and again we deviated to Baroque and then Rococo architectural, and then back to Regency/Empire neoclassicism (although England by and large missed out on Rococo). Again that deviated into lest purist forms and, eventually into free-form revivalism and eclecticism, until we reverted to Beaux-Arts neoclassicism once more. Then we fell into Art Deco and modernism then post-modernism, and now this... as you can see the timeframes shorten but the trend remains clear.

An interesting concept is that of a so-called "other-modernism" that encompasses a parallel trend of art development from Art Nouveau to Art Deco to the Prairie Style to Lutyensian minimalism to today, a more organic development and approach to architecture than the Bauhaus and its successors.

What traditionalism really stands for is a conservatism, not so much a political conservatism (certainly conservatives could be avant-garde architecturally- see Mussolini) but a cultural and social one. Traditionalism works. People know it, and they can relate to it. Time and time again polls show that people prefer traditionally designed buildings because they know what they're getting, because it isn't new. It isn't innovative. But this isn't a condemnation, I am excited by this trend. Innovation for innovation's sake- to simply be new- is indicative of a decadence where value is placed upon shock value. The Johnson house, for example, may be interesting to look at, but it is inconvenient to live in without destroying its form (I am imagining blinds here).

Traditionalist architecture is so popular because it stands for thing and implies them at the same time- permanence, austerity, solidity, longevity, and so forth. It implies a wisdom, rejecting the needlessly new for something tried and tested. You don't see too many modern houses, because they're uncomfortable. The idea of "home", again, is much of those same values: permanence, austerity, etc., even if most of them take the form of kitsch. Ornamentation provides a much easier derivation of value than expressions of reference that are vague at best and fraudulent at worst. Recall that proposed tower in Indonesia where the crown was meant to be indicative of several national symbols, but was found to be a regurgitation of a cancelled proposal in Nashville. The ornamentation of traditional buildings is more straightforward.

Sumptuous palaces of yesteryear may evoke ideas of elitism, but in the regard to localism they are more understandable in their design. A person could have look upon them and seen the cues which they shared with more familiar, mundane buildings- the guildhall, the church, even their home. In contrast, look at the major buildings being built today- 90% of them would be no less at home in any other major world city. Again, traditionalism is more familiar, more national.

So, in short, traditionalism is a good thing. But the great challenge moving forwards is authenticity. Many buildings here are astoundingly detailed and well-built. Others use minimalism to their advantage- one particular example being Guildford Cathedral in the UK. Many others, however, skimp on ornamentation when it is need, have incorrect proportions, or are otherwise mistaken in the use or non-use of certain elements, and look poor as a result. Hopefully technology combined with the increasing prevalence of this trend will help correct those flaws. Otherwise, I look forwards to a new traditionalism with excitement and anticipation.
 

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Hancock Center, Marist College - Poughkeepsie, New York - 2011

http://wiltondiaries.blogspot.com/2011/10/marist-college.html

http://collegeboundmentorblog.com/marist/
 
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