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Hello gents and others.

You’ll see from my number of posts that I am a newbie to the forum, so the chances are that I’ve put this post in the wrong section. For this, I apologise from the heart of my bottom! I’ve also taken the liberty of starting a new thread, as I haven’t found any other threads in this forum that deal with my area of interest, which are the Timetables of the long-distance train companies of the UK. This means GNER, Hull Trains, GCR, Virgin (XC & WC), MML & GWR.

I’ve been doing this exercise off & on for over 20 years, but my major stumbling block has been a lack of accurate timing information. For that, I need access to the Working TimeTable, or WTT for short.

I know that Network Rail don’t like plebs like me raking through the WTT, as it details freight workings, but I am after WTT timings for trains that are already in the Passenger TimeTable, which is freely available.

I do know that Network Rail made SOME data available on its website, so that outside firms (AMEC?) could bid for certain services, but it was not enough for my purposes.

Is there anyone out there who can point me in the right direction? Is there an obscure web-site with the WTT on it? (Unlikely). Could someone, with access to the WTT, provide me with some timing information? Is there another forum (probably of an academic nature) around that specialises in this sort of stuff???

I’m basically trying to convert some of the PTT’s Tables 26, 51, 53, 65, 125 & 135 into CLOCKFACE timings and slightly increase train frequencies, though I don’t want to go as far as a Taktfahrplan.

Can anyone help??
Thanks in advance.
43006 (the Ivatt 4MT, NOT the HST!)
 

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Sorry mate. Just passing.

I'm afraid I haven't got the faintest clue what on earth you are talking about.

Good luck with it anyway though! :)
 

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Do you mean the Working timetable that comes in a number of big books loosely based on the old BR regions that has the words Private and Not for Publication printed on the front cover :)
 

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Do you mean the Working timetable that comes in a number of big books loosely based on the old BR regions that has the words Private and Not for Publication printed on the front cover?
Yep, that's them. The only time I have seen Working TimeTables "in the flesh" (as it were) was in a bookshop in Falconwood in South-East London, but they dated from about 1963, which are no use to me. The bloke running the shop told me that the current WTT's have "Not for Public Consumption" (or words to that effect) plastered on the front cover, and getting hold of one was damned difficult. I haven't seen a recent WTT, but someone did a big photo-copying job for me, of the line from Paddington to beyond Carmarthen, which amounted to about 200 sheets of A4 paper! The WTT is split up into lines rather than regions and consists of 36 big books, but that's more rumour than conjecture.

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