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Hey every body I would like to start this thread it's about our opinion in every thing.

since many of us are well educated that's not including me unfortunately but still have my own thoughts about every thing although it doesn't count but any way that's kinda my right to have some thoughts.

So I would start talking about GOD yes about god>

My opinion about him is that he is exist he is eternal has no biginning has no end he has no time no space.

he has no body we can't imagine him so what ever image we make for him in our mind that image is fake.

I thin he create more than one universe more than one adam.

this is my thoughts of GOD any one can tell me if that was any real or it just mere illusion.

please let us discus this opinion or any one with respect and seriousness let us at least respect that we are a civilized people. In case if any one didn't like to discus this or any let him please keep his attitude to him keep it to your self, the other nations are not any better than us by discussing matter in civilized manner thanks to all of you.
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for me i dont care too much about the the discussion of god existence or what/which religion is true

when i was younger(cham sana) i liked to get the points of atheists and think about it.


god existence and the right religion in my opinion are self-endeavors.
for me i dont care too much about the the discussion of god existence or what/which religion is true

when i was younger(cham sana) i liked to get the points of atheists and think about it.


god existence and the right religion in my opinion are self-endeavors.
شكرا لك عرفنا الان رايك في هذه المسالة طبا يمكنك مشاركتنا افكارك في مسال اخرى.
in my view smokey and the bandit is a much underrated film.
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in my view smokey and the bandit is a much underrated film.
Lol.
my opinion is that i would like to have my opinion in Iraq without being executed. that is the main reason i like to stirr shit up and get on people's mind about religion... because we have to start somewhere.

look at malik for instance, he now accepts the fact that some people do no obey and kneel to his religion, and is slowly accepting "blasphemous slanders" amongst people. that is a first step.
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yes they just need that first "shock"... and once they're over it they can begin talking normally about topics. still doesn't work with everyone. :lol:
yes they just need that first "shock"... and once they're over it they can begin talking normally about topics. still doesn't work with everyone. :lol:
patience my friend, patience...

:D
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yes they just need that first "shock"... and once they're over it they can begin talking normally about topics. still doesn't work with everyone. :lol:
I dont get it though? Are we not your online "friends"? Why would you want to insult something we hold dear? It doesn't make sense to me, we all love Iraq, our people, our culture and history, its only when we come and say we want an Islamic system or Kilaafa then you have the right to attack that belief.

It makes no sense to me, we're all allied against terrorism, against our neighbours, why find an excuse to disunite us? Quite childish if you ask me.

And thats my opinion!
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I don't want to "insult" any of you guys. Just want to give "shock" opinions sometimes that goes "beyond" the bounds of what you're comfortable with... then you would get used to hearing "blasphemy" without either having a stroke or going on a murder rampage.
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I hate labels. But if I have to pick exactly one label for my core personal beliefs , it would not be the term "atheist", I think "atheist" is a vacuous term, that holds little substance.

I usually pick the term "humanist" : read what that really means here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanism

I don't mind if people believe in the supernatural, without scientifically rigorous evidence. However, I hate it when the value of humanity is discarded based on religious beliefs. i.e. when your religious ideology takes over, and start viewing other humans less favourably then those who share your religious view (emphasis on sect, since it's so relevant here). This leads to intolerance, and is bad for all of us.
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I hate labels. But if I have to pick exactly one label for my core personal beliefs , it would not be the term "atheist", I think "atheist" is a vacuous term, that holds little substance.

I usually pick the term "humanist" : read what that really means here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanism

I don't mind if people believe in the supernatural, without scientifically rigorous evidence. However, I hate it when the value of humanity is discarded based on religious beliefs. i.e. when your religious ideology takes over, and start viewing other humans less favourably then those who share your religious view (emphasis on sect, since it's so relevant here). This leads to intolerance, and is bad for all of us.
I agree with what you said, but like the transformation of scientific values over the last century to a more humane and tolerant way, I expect Islam to head the same way, just like Christianity.

Science once upon a time told us that Africans were inferior because they had smaller heads (some still actually believe that including a Nobel prize winner).

My point is why be rude about it and make insults? You want to disapprove/enlighten us, then do it with respect, you would get better results!
I agree.

There is also a difference between "science" and "rationality". It's important not to confuse the two.. today we often use the two as synonyms to some extent, but this is not always correct. There is a lot of bullshit science. Even today.

Being a humanist requires you to be a rationalist, which means that you need to question even well established thought in science if you don't see its rationality
yes they just need that first "shock"... and once they're over it they can begin talking normally about topics. still doesn't work with everyone. :lol:
Naive, that's for sure so keep dreaming.

in the days of Ahlul bayet PBUT there where many of you and they were free talking discussing these matters among Muslims yet they got away with it I mean no one hurt them with any thing. So don't worry I have my own approach and be happy you and Mo7 Shocked me to the limit I accept your views so post it let see what you got.:D
i was actually quite shocked i never met or have seen a iraqi non believer so i didn't think it was possible. when mo7 started talking trash about shia i thought he was a ba3thy or wahabi but now i know he is communist (wich is even worse) :lol:
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i was actually quite shocked i never met or have seen a iraqi non believer so i didn't think it was possible. when mo7 started talking trash about shia i thought he was a ba3thy or wahabi but now i know he is communist (wich is even worse) :lol:
My freind even communists believe!, this guy Mo7 just frustrated not any thing else. I really pity him the poor Mo7.
I pity him also.. but for different reasons :D
tell me =)
In my opinion I think this "shock" excuse is quite pathetic. The athiests here's try to set themselves as an example for tolerance and understanding. Yet the attitude they give is no different than the ultra-secterian mindset that had destroyed Iraq. Always using a flawed logic. The idea of "shock" is quite pathetic I say, it seems like a lame excuse for all the disrespect that the members here are spewing. I thought the Shia and Sunni extremists were bad enough. How exactly are we supposed to put an end to secterianism when all the "enlighted athiests" have been only worse.

Another thing is the way ideas are expressed, you cannot attempt to make a person agree with you by starting off with attacking his dearest values. Besides lets consider god doesn't exist, the religious wouldn't loose anything. But if he does, you guys are totally screwed.
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