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On http://www.aena.es/csee/ccurl/LE_ENR_5_4_en.pdf, there is a list of airtraffic obstacles in Spain available. According to this list, at 38°04'36"N 00°39'49"W, there should stand a 370 metres tall guyed mast, which would be the second tallest structure in European Union today. However, when checking the site by Wikimapia, there is nothing, but at 38°4'19"N -0°39'53"E, there is a guyed mast, called "Torreta de Guardamar".

I do not know it, but is it really 370 metres tall?
 

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On http://www.aena.es/csee/ccurl/LE_ENR_5_4_en.pdf, there is a list of airtraffic obstacles in Spain available. According to this list, at 38°04'36"N 00°39'49"W, there should stand a 370 metres tall guyed mast, which would be the second tallest structure in European Union today. However, when checking the site by Wikimapia, there is nothing, but at 38°4'19"N -0°39'53"E, there is a guyed mast, called "Torreta de Guardamar".

I do not know it, but is it really 370 metres tall?
That's 100% true.
 

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I think I have a photo made from sierra crevillent, 30 km, and its amazing the comparattive with the coast skyline.
 

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It's a Us Militar Tower, and from my house in Elche, is very easy see the tower all the nights, and any days.
 

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Please post a potograph of it or write about it an article in the English or the Spanish Wikipedia!

What is its exact use? If it is owned by US military, I believe, it is used for the transmission of orders to submerged submarines.

When was it built?

In any case, a very interesting structure!
 

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Perdonada, esto es el foro Valenciano, que al menos todos nos podamos enterar de lo que se habla, joo, comprendo el inglés hasta cierto nivel, pero me cuesta, por favor... en Castellano o Valenciano
 

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^^ No te pongas así, yo diría que no es español ;)
 

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¿Alguien podría poner fotos, por favor?

tram_space, hablan de una torre/antena/algo de 370 metros de altura que está en Guardamar.
 

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Please post a potograph of it or write about it an article in the English or the Spanish Wikipedia!

What is its exact use? If it is owned by US military, I believe, it is used for the transmission of orders to submerged submarines.

When was it built?

In any case, a very interesting structure!
It was built by US military around 40 years ago as COM Tower for the US Army submarines, currently owner is the Spanish Army called the location as "Campamento de Santa Ana" also being used as COM Tower for the Spanish submarines (with its main base very close from there at Cartagena Harbour). That's All!!!


Fué construida por la Armada de los Estados Unidos hace aproximadamente 40 años, como torre de Comunicaciones de Submarinos, su dueño actual es el Ejército Español quien llama a la zona "Campamento de Santa Ana", se usa en la actualidad como torre de COM para los submarinos de la Armada española, los cuales tienen su base principal muy cerca de allí, en el Puerto de Cartagena. Eso es todo lo que yo sé.
 

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La he intentado localizar en Google Earth y no la encuentro. En las coordenadas que dice Obelixx no está, y por los alrededores tampoco. ¿La habrán borrado digitalmente o es que no he sabido dar con ella?
 

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Esto es a unos 5 kilometros, desde la terraza, y anocheciendo ya, la verdad esque si no la conoces sorprende, es muy alta, y de cerca es mas impresionante, tiene unos cables de anclaje larguisimos.A veces me acerco con la bici, pero llega un punto y no te dejan pasar.

 

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Esto es a unos 5 kilometros, desde la terraza, y anocheciendo ya, la verdad esque si no la conoces sorprende, es muy alta, y de cerca es mas impresionante, tiene unos cables de anclaje larguisimos.A veces me acerco con la bici, pero llega un punto y no te dejan pasar.

Pero tú vives/estás en Alicante o en Guardamar....???
 

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Looks really tall!

You can visit in the internet other facilities used for transmitting orders to submarines like Torreta de Guardamar:

- DHO38 in Saterland, Germany, 8 masts each 352.8 metres tall ( http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHO38 )
- NSS Annapolis in USA, multiple masts, tallest 365.8 metres ( http://hawkins.pair.com/nss.shtml )

When you look at the basements of the towers, you see that they stand on large insulators. In fact the towers show, when transmitter run, voltages of 100 kV to 300 kV against ground, this is the voltage of a large high voltage powerline!

I suppose Torreta de Guardamar stands also on large insulators. Its guys may be also connected with insulators to the mast structure and/or divided by huge insulators.

The reason of the enormous height of Torreta de Guardamar is simple: it is an antenna for very long waves. In order to work well, it had to be very tall ( in fact, it should be much taller, but this would bring technical problems and by using special measures like feeding the mast over a huge coil and using the guys as part of the antenna system, this is not necessary. One can built facilities for this purposes with lower masts, but then you have to use multiple of them. In Grimeton, Sweden, there is such a facility, look on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimeton_VLF_transmitter . A further possibility is the usage of an antenna spun across a valley )

If possible, please post some pictures made at daytime from Torreta de Guardamar, its basement and its guys.
 
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