I'd be interested in the details of the upgrading. The removal of level crossings and the at-grade crossing at Newark would be great for the line.
It seems like the Midland Mainline will be electrified to Moorthorpe and Doncaster. And any add-ins should include Derby to Birmingham and Derby to Matlock.Looks to be only as far as Sheffield though? You'd think it would make sense to go that little bit further and do the Leeds - Sheffield stretch too?
It would certainly be welcome to see the improvement works to the Midland and East Coast Main Lines. So could the electrification of the Midland Mainline see any chance of the electrification of branches such as Leeds to Sheffield via Barnsley, Chesterfield to Nottingham and Nottingham to Lincoln via Newark? As for electrifying the Cross Country route from Derby to Birmingham is there any chance of the rest of the Cross Country route getting wired?ps60 said:It seems like the Midland Mainline will be electrified to Moorthorpe and Doncaster. And any add-ins should include Derby to Birmingham and Derby to Matlock.
As I believe Nottingham to Clay Cross Junction is being electrified, it would make sense to electrify the Hallam Line from Meadowhall to Leeds via Barnsley to have full electric running for the Leeds to Nottingham service. And if that gets electrified, then electrification of the line from Barnsley to Huddersfield via Penistone should also take place. Whether these will happen is another story.I doubt we'll see a second Leeds - Sheffield line electrified.
I expect the Cross Country line to be electrified later, once GWML, TP and MML have been electrified. Once they've been done, it's just a case of infilling Bristol - Birmingham and Birmingham - Derby.
Can't understand the logic of just electrifying to Selby considering it isn't that much further to fully wire to Hull and if the Selby to Doncaster line is electrified as well then it would of course have the benefit of allowing for the full electrification of Hull Trains services with the possible electrification of York to Selby also allowing for electric services from York to Hull as well as perhaps allowing some Hull freight services to be electrified. Also I presume this would mean the axing of Middlesbrough services to Manchester which must surely be a bad thing for the Teesside area considering I would have thought Middlebrough would deserve a continuation of the hourly service to Manchester with presumably a truncated Middlesbrough service starting at Leeds or even York although I presume the Blackpool North to York service will be extended to Scarborough (I would have thought there should at least be a half hourly service from York to Scarborough possibly also extending to Leeds and beyond.So, from the dft:
Liverpool - Newcastle (via Chat Moss & Victoria) 2 tph - E-train FAST
Man Air - York (via Picc, Ordshall Chord & Vic) 2 tph E-train FAST
Man Pic - Hull (Guide Bridge) 1 tph D-train SEMI-FAST (Diesel)
Man Pic - Selby (Guide Bridge) 1 tph E-train SEMI-FAST
Hudds - Dewsbury - Leeds 2 tph E-train
I can't see 185s been used on the Calder Valley route, big and heavy units like that will probably get cascaded elsewhere like other parts fot he First Transpennine operationsWonder whether infills will become pre election treats? Or left for another time when good news is needed?
Does Harrogate and Calder Valley lines now become part of LCR (and MCR / tfgm) responsibility?
Still, if rolling stock is ordered, it should answer the Pacer question and hopefully some cascading of the 185s which would be far better suited to a semi fast / stopping Calder Valley service than an intercity train that they are now supposed to be.
This is an interesting curiosity that hasn't really been made clear, nor am I particularly sure at what point funds are going to be handed over to the LCR for the transport pot.Does Harrogate and Calder Valley lines now become part of LCR (and MCR / tfgm) responsibility?
There's no guarantee that they'd stay in the north, but if they did I doubt there would be enough demand for their use on TPEs network when so much of it would be electrified.I can't see 185s been used on the Calder Valley route, big and heavy units like that will probably get cascaded elsewhere like other parts fot he First Transpennine operations
I wonder if they may end up in the south-west (which got the cast-offs from the last TPE stock upgrade). I imagine they'd work quite well between Exeter and Penzance.There's no guarantee that they'd stay in the north, but if they did I doubt there would be enough demand for their use on TPEs network when so much of it would be electrified.