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From national nine news:

Tunnels to relieve Melbourne's gridlock
Sunday May 14
Tunnels to ease Melbourne's gridlock are back on the Victorian government's drawing board.

Proposed tunnels could link Melbourne's east and west, forming a new route across the city's inner-north.

The state government on Wednesday will announce details of a $5 million study of this option to unclog the city's transport jam, the Sunday Herald Sun says.

A new route across Melbourne's inner north could provide a major alternative to the clogged Monash Freeway-West Gate route.




News of the study indicates a second Yarra River crossing is no longer on the agenda.

Instead, in the short-term the West Gate Bridge will have reversible peak-hour lanes and a new ramp will be built from West Gate Freeway to the docks to improve access.

Key developments of the study will include:

* A tunnel under Melbourne's inner-north to link Eastern Freeway to CityLink at Flemington;

* A 15-km link from Eastern Freeway to Western Ring Road at Deer Park, featuring tunnels;

* A train, light-rail or bus route from Doncaster and Box Hill on the Eastern Freeway, entering the city via a new tunnel;

* A tunnel linking Melbourne's port to Geelong Road or Western Highway; and

* A better link between Monash Freeway and Eastern Freeway along Punt Road - Hoddle Street.

The study, to be launched later this year, could spark an infrastructure project bonanza once completed. It will be headed by Sir Rod Eddington, who is working to fix Britain's transport network.


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god I love Melbourne's freeway construction frenzy!!!
 

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u love the freeway construction frenzy?
very unsustainable - well you will be happy to know that per capita melbourne has the highest number of freeway km in the world!

this diagram illustrates a link between roads and public transport
if only australian cities emphasised PUBLIC transport
i think melbourne is now the only east coast capital city not to have a major plan to upgrade its train network - with Sydney's north west to south west and metro city link - and brisbane's number of new city stations and expansion of southern/eastern suburbs rail bridge and a new underground bus link and eastern suburbs busway- please correct me if im wrong about melbourne not having major expansion plans for PT.


Bracks - - - the carr government in victoria?
 

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well i just hope melbourne follows brisbane and plans to invest in public transport as well

its all fine to build roads when they are needed - i.e. to ensure economic activity is efficient in moving goods and services around the city - but public transport must be a priority as well
 

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Those graphs are very biased. Note, there is not one American city in there. There's Vancouver and Toronto. But nothing from the US of A.
 

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zach24 knows how biased the Age is, I don't know why he's using a graphic from the Age. It's been taken way out of context, since that came from an article talking about the state of Melbourne's PT system.

@zach24: http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=336020 - major projects that need to be constructed are the third track to Dandenong, and lines to Rowville and Doncaster. The former seems to be the most likely to go ahead. Of course, we've got groups like the PTUA saying that there's no need for the third track, which has made me lose all respect for them as a lobby group.
 

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has their been any budget estimates or allocation of funds for these public transport initiatives? - when is the next Victorian election?
 

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I'm Great said:
why does every road project thread turn into a discussion about public transport?
Yes, I realise that was meant to be rhetorical, but...

It's because most Australian cities in general, and in particular, Melbourne, have an excellent road system, while the public transport system leaves much to be desired. Sure, there are things we'd like to improve about the road system, particularly maintenance, but building more freeways and increasing oil dependance isn't an attractive idea in today's climate of increasing oil prices, either.

Melbourne's "Gridlock" has as much to do with the state of most of its public transport infrastructure as the roads themselves.

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when is the next Victorian election
Saturday, 25th November
 

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Is 5 Million enough??? Its just that the planning for Brisbane's Airport link is costing 20 million! and that's not any construction...
 

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About a year ago I actually dreamt that there was another freeway crossing citylink near the sound tube....

Anyone want to brainstorm ideas for the interchange with the Citylink?
 

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It's going to be bloody tricky; a tunnel (s) presumably has to emerge and interchange with the western link flyover just south of the sound tube in quite a confined space, unless they want to knock down lots of half-derelict factories and reclaim substantial parcels of land for it. Its handling the gradients for B-double trucks and the like that will be damned tricky. Anyone want to speculate how this can be done?

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zach24 said:
well i just hope melbourne follows brisbane and plans to invest in public transport as well
LOL

Not laughing @ you Zachery, but @ the very notion. Both major Oz cities seem to miss out in the PT arena constantly. At least Brisbane and Perth are spending money on their train systems. Sydney is currently adding 3 new stations to its network...whoopdi do.

Anyway Melbourne seems to love its highways and major roads. So yeah, go the "infrastructure project bonanza"!

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For fucks sake, can't a government go for five minutes without proposing another hole in the ground that sucks in money and doesn't relieve congestion?
 

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Deal struck to reduce crush on freeways

May 16, 2006
From The Age

THE State Government and CityLink operator Transurban have reached a deal believed to be worth hundreds of millions of dollars to boost traffic capacity on the Monash and West Gate freeways and squeeze more cars onto Melbourne's toll road.

The Age believes that after months of secret negotiations, an agreement has been finalised in time to be a key component of this week's Transport and Liveability statement. Under the deal, Transurban will bring forward concession payments due to the Government to help pay to unblock bottlenecks on state-owned roads.

This could include adding lanes on the Monash Freeway and works at the Warrigal Road intersection near Chadstone.

The Government is likely to approve works at the eastern and western ends of CityLink to improve capacity and flow into tunnels, including reversible lanes on the West Gate Bridge, additional lanes on the West Gate Freeway and a ramp linking the West Gate Bridge to the docks.

Neither the Government nor Transurban would comment, but Government and road industry sources confirmed that a deal had been done.

The agreement is similar to a $150 million pact between Transurban and the Government last year to fix the Tullamarine-Calder Freeway interchange near Essendon Airport.

Under the Calder deal, the upgrade is being funded by replacing $300 million in concession payments due from Transurban to the Government from 2011 with a $150 million upfront payment. Transurban also agreed to pay the state $11 million — half the estimated extra profit the upgrade will generate.

Transurban is particularly keen on such arrangements, with managing director Kim Edwards last year saying they were good for motorists.
 

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Brizzie's becoming a really inviting city! Concrete and fumes anyone?
hmmmmmm, interesting..... when Brisbane is going underground...Melbourne seems to be widening their freeways... :nono:

but yaknow...no biggy...
 

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I just hope that these new projects are the last jig saw piece for Melbourne, and that once they are built, that the construction of roads will never again be a problem. Public transport can then be the focus for years to come, while transport budget is only paying for road maintenance, not road construction.
 

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There is no way these projects, if built, could be considered the last jigsaw pieces.

There's still the link from the Eastern to the Northern Ring Road (the Yarra Flats Freeway) as the Scoresby will dump a ton of extra traffic onto Boronia Road. Then there'll be a push to link the Scoresby/Frankston with the Mornington Peninsula freeway. Then Then there'll be a southbound extension of the Merri Creek Freeway/Craigieburn Bypass presumably to Clifton Hill. Then a further section to complete the inner ring road from Clifton Hill to Richmond (edit: or more likely to Burnley, so that CityLink can't whinge about lost traffic as they'll get more off the Eastern to compensate). Then at least one extra link from the inner ring road to the CBD proper. The Eastlink mob will probably push to build (or have built) the Healesville freeway to help feed more traffic onto their little road and increase their revenues. Then there'll be a call to link the Calder Freeway to the outer end of the Deer Park Bypass because the traffic on the Western Ring Road is so bad, creating the first stage of the outer ring road. Then they'll ask for the Airport to the Calder, then Deer Park to the Geelong Road, then the Airport to the top end of the Craigieburn Bypass, and since the reservation is there (currently only used by the power lines around the top end of the Craigieburn Bypass), an extension further east too. Then that extension further east will need to be linked somewhere to the south, presumably to the Yarra Flats freeway.

Don't assume the plans for every one of these freeways haven't been drawn up by Wendell Cox or the like and aren't sitting in the bottom drawer at both Vicroads and the RACV, just waiting to see the light of day.
 
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