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Islamabad-Istanbul train link from Aug 14
By IANS,

Islamabad : A freight train link between Islamabad and Istanbul via Tehran is to be launched Aug 14, Pakistan's independence day.

The train will run from Islamabad's Margala Station to Istanbul's Haydarpasa Station via Tehran Station, APP news agency reported, quoting railway officials here.

Iran would provide trans-shipment facilities at its Zahedan station on the border with Balochistan.

For this, Iranian Railways would provide a train including empty wagons 30-60 minutes before the arrival of the train from Pakistan.

Similarly Pakistan Railways would provide a train including empty wagons 30-60 minutes before the arrival of a full container train from Tehran, the officials said.

The decision to start the train was taken at a trilateral Pakistan-Iran-Turkey meeting at Tehran March 1, 2009 that discussed some of the key projects needed to improve the capacity and speed of transit traffic in the region.
 

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Actually, wrong section and we don't open seperate threads for everything. But Now I realize that other than HSR thread we have no general discussion thread about railways Or at least I can't find it. Since this thread is not about HSR line or ctyscapes and we have no related thread, it should be in Turqoise Cafe and maybe mods can combine it into "Genel Sohbet" thread.

Btw I didn't know Iran has rail connection with Turkey and also do they have that long rail network which connects these 3 countries?
 

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When does Turkey intend on building the replacement rail line to bypass Lake Van?

If you go to the thread on Iranian railways, you will see a post with some good photos of the train ferry in operation. It clearly is in no position to handle a full-length container train!
 

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This project leads to the only mass migration to Turkey, and increased crime and terrorism. Turkey should further cooperate with other Turkish states in Central Asia instead of uneducated states in the Middle East.
 

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Limeon, please leave your racism at home. Do you really think the level of education in Kyrgistan is higher than in Iran? Anyways, this is about a freight train, so whether the rice, pepper, tea exported from Pakistan is educated or not is not a matter of debate. There is vague talk about a passenger train on the same route, but the security situation in Western Pakistan makes that a bit doubtful at the moment.
And about the Van Lake , Ted, you are quite right: as far as we know, TCDD is not giving priority to building a bypass around the lake, and if this ever becomes a popular freight route, this will be a bottleneck. But if the containers have to be reloaded from one train to another at the Pakistani-Iranian border anyways, this will not be high speed freight.
 

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When does Turkey intend on building the replacement rail line to bypass Lake Van?

If you go to the thread on Iranian railways, you will see a post with some good photos of the train ferry in operation. It clearly is in no position to handle a full-length container train!
Actually we had a project around the lake which was prepared between 1993-2000. Maybe it can be realised in future.



http://www.eser.com.tr/referans.asp?k=37
 

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^^

**** me! Is that route known as 'The Long Way Round'?

I'm only kidding, and I'm sure it's quicker than the train ferry, especially as this new freight train will have imply the ferry going back-and-forth several times.

On the other hand, there's no telling how well loaded this train will be.

Today is the 11 August. We have three days to guess the number of containers on the first train.

I'm going for..., 12TEU - made up of a mix of 40fts and 20fts. The products will be of low value, and certainly will not be time-sensitive.

That's if the train runs at all. Are there any trainspotters in Iran or Turkey that can snap a picture for the thread?
 

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^^ I guess their prioity was connecting those towns on the way to promote their development. Otherwise South of the lake seems more reasonable.

Minimum curve radius is 1000 m so trains will be able to safely travel at app. 120-140km/h speed. Considering line is 238 km, it will take about 2 hours.
 

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Pakistan-Turkey rail trial starts
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"Pakistan has begun its first international freight train service from Islamabad to Istanbul.

The 6,500km (4,040 mile) trial service via the Iranian capital, Tehran, is a pilot project of the regional Economic Co-operation Organisation.

Officials expect it to boost Pakistan's trade with Turkey and Iran - currently estimated at $1bn - by as much as 50%.

There are also hopes the route will eventually provide a link to Europe and Central Asia, and carry passengers.

Pakistan Prime Minister Syed Yusuf Raza Gilani said he hoped the route would one day also provide passenger services and boost tourism, reports said.

The train will pull 20 containers on its maiden journey from Islamabad railway station, delivering 14 to Tehran and six to Istanbul a fortnight after it sets off.

The first journey will also take railway experts from the three countries on board to gauge the performance and check for obstacles over the vast terrain.

Mr Gilani described the beginning as "an epic event", Pakistan's APP news agency reported.

Some operational obstacles also remain to be resolved, and parts of the route need to be upgraded, he added."

Teheran Times:
"The first test run of the Islamabad-Tehran-Istanbul train left Islamabad’s Margala Station on August 14 en route to Istanbul’s Haydarpashsa Station via Tehran.

According to railways officials, Iran would provide trans-shipment facilities at Zahedan station until the replacement of the Zahedan-Mirjaveh line by standard gauge.

As such, containers would be trans-shipped from the train with broader gauge to the train with standard gauge and vice versa.

They said that in this case Iranian Railways should provide a train including empty wagons for standard gauge 30-60 minutes before the arrival of the full container train from Pakistan station according to the approved schedule.

Similarly, Pakistan Railways would provide a train including empty wagons for the broader gauge 30-60 minutes before the arrival of a full container train from Tehran.

According to official data available, the trilateral ministerial meeting of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Islamic Republic of Pakistan and the Republic of Turkey on the ECO freight train on the Islamabad-Tehran-Istanbul route was held in Tehran on March 1, 2009.

The meeting was attended by the transportation ministers of Iran and Turkey and Pakistan’s ambassador to Iran, M.B Abbasi. The ECO delegation was led by the Secretary General.

The meeting discussed some of the key projects needed to improve the capacity and speed of transit traffic in the region.

Two such obvious projects, namely upgrading Quetta-Taftan segments, and railways bypass around Van Lake, had been forwarded through the Secretariat to the Islamic Development Bank for financial contribution.

The Bank had showed interest, but had deferred further consideration of the projects to placement of direct official request by the concerned government. The cost of the project was estimated at 45 billion rupees (US$ 545,950,864).

The meeting appreciated the Islamic Republic of Iran for expediting the completion of railway segment on Kerman-Zehdan, which made the initiative of having railway connection between Islamabad and Istanbul feasible.

The meeting also stressed the need for expediting the formulation or implementation of the following projects: electrification of the railway on Tehran-Tabriz segment, sand due fixation in Sistan via Balochistan (Iran) and Balochistan (Pakistan), and enhancing the line capacity on Quetta-Sibi section.

Under this agenda the en-route member states decided to consider the possibilities of launching a passenger train between Islamabad and Istanbul via Tehran.

Upgrading Quetta-Taftan segment would greatly facilitate passenger traffic on the route. The passenger train would be an extension of the existing passenger train between Tehran-Istanbul."
 

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Two year old article about it saying Iran is going to pay for it:
Erdogan and Ahmadinejad agree to build Iran-Turkey railroad

Monday, 1 October 2007

In the framework of the UN General Assembly's 62nd session in New York, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad agreed to build a railroad connecting Iran and Turkey.

There are two projects for building the trunk-railway from northern and southern banks of Lake Van, said Ismet Yilmaz, the Turkish Minister of Transport. Erdogan and Ahmadinejad also consulted with the Iranian Minister of Roads and Transportation Mohammad Rahmati, who said Iran can cover the expenses.

"A Turkish delegation will be sent to Iran next week to discuss the issue. We think building of the railroad from the north of Lake Van is more real," Mr Yilmaz said.

Iran and Turkey already signed a preliminary agreement on delivery of Iranian gas to Turkey, which met a sharp reaction of the United States. Although Turkey defends ties with Iran, U.S. official calls on Turkey to seek alternatives such as agreeing with other regional suppliers including Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan. Energy Minister Hilmi Guler is expected to meet his Iranian counterpart this month to sign a major energy deal.
www.turkishweekly.net/.../erdogan-and-ahmadinejad-agree-to-build-iran-turkey-railroad.html
 

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First Islamabad-Tehran-Istanbul Train Arrives In Turkey

..did not know the appropriate thread for this news

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First Islamabad-Tehran-Istanbul Train Arrives In Turkey

ANKARA, Aug. 25 (Xinhua) -- A freight train, which departed from Islamabad to test the newly established 6,500 km railway linking Pakistan, Iran and Turkey, arrived in eastern Turkey Tuesday, the semi-official Anatolia news agency reported.

The railway line, which was recently completed linking Islamabad, Tehran and Istanbul, aims at connecting members states of Economic Cooperation Organization (ECO), according to the report.

ECO is an intergovernmental regional organization established in 1985 by Iran, Pakistan and Turkey to boost cooperation. It currently holds 10 member states.

The first freight train departed from Pakistan on Aug. 14 and stopped at Iranian capital of Tehran Sunday, and then arrived in Saray town in eastern Turkish Van province early Tuesday, said the report.

A number of Turkish, Iranian and Pakistani railway officials were on the train, according to the report.

The new railway connected Pakistan to Europe via Iran and Turkey, Turkish railway official Muhammed Atilcan was quoted as saying.

The train journey from Islamabad to Istanbul takes about 13 days, while travelling from European countries to Pakistan via seaway needs almost 40 to 45 days.

The Islamabad-Tehran-Istanbul railway project comes amid efforts to boost economic cooperation among ECO member states.

Besides Pakistan, Iran and Turkey, ECO members are Afghanistan, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan


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