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Why not use the Oval as a major city sport venue
By PETER HACKETT
16may06
ADELAIDE Oval is a precious showpiece recognised as one of the finest cricket grounds in the world - but it could also be the city's major sporting venue.

A $45 million redevelopment plan now on the table aims to boost the Oval's capacity to 40,000, making it suitable for many major sporting events, including AFL matches.

At the moment, it is only during Test and one-day international cricket matches, as well as a handful of other one-off sporting events, that the ground attracts a crowd anywhere near its capacity of 32,000.

The South Australian Cricket Association says it would welcome the AFL with open arms.

"There is no reason it could not be an AFL venue," said SACA communications manager Jane Elliott. "We are ready and willing. We would happily open the door to the AFL.

"However, the AFL has refused to include Adelaide Oval in its fixtures."

Adelaide developer Theo Maris is more hard-hitting. "It's not an exclusive club to anyone," he said.

"Adelaide Oval belongs to the people of Adelaide, it is a city asset and should be made available for many other events, for the benefit of the city.

"It should not be walled and fenced-off for the sole use of a few. There should be many more public events there.

"Those who believe they have exclusivity are living in the Dark Ages."

Mr Maris, a former member of SA's Development Assessment Commission, says Adelaide should have one major central sporting and recreation venue at Adelaide Oval.

"It could be Adelaide's major sporting and multi-purpose venue," he said.

"It is just not sustainable to have prima donnas drawing lines in the sand and saying where we can or where we cannot be. We need reality and business sense. It is a disgrace for a city of one million people to be having these turf wars. People in both arenas of cricket and football need to accept this.

"Because the football barons and cricket kings can't get together, it has cost us millions in capital outlay. And it's costing us every day."

The reality is that Adelaide Oval is owned by every South Australian, and it is for their use and enjoyment. The ground has never been owned by the SACA or any other group, and remains public land. While the Oval is under the "care and control" of Adelaide City Council, SACA's lease was last renewed in 1994 for 50 years.

SACA's Redevelopment Plan was approved by SA's Development Assessment Commission in October, 2002. SACA has made submissions to the SA Government for funding and is still awaiting a decision.

But how can $45 million in taxpayer spending be justified unless these facilities are more widely used by the public? Ms Elliott said that "contrary to what many believe" the Oval was used extensively throughout the year.

"We are not merely a cricket association. We are venue managers with a highly-successful function business," she said.

"Our revenue surpassed $21 million last financial year, we employ more than 70 permanent staff, plus 25 contracted cricketers."

SACA has an income of between $6 million and $8 million a year from major events, including Test and one-day International cricket. The Oval's catering department last year handled more than 700 functions, worth about $5.3 million.

Apart from cricket and football, Adelaide Oval has been used for soccer, rugby and, Ms Elliott said, "almost every other sporting event".

It is the frontrunner for the Asian Cup qualifying soccer match between the Socceroos and Lebanon on September 1 this year.

AFL media manager Patrick Keane said the problem with Adelaide Oval has been capacity. However, Keane said, even with an increased capacity of 40,000, it is not likely that AFL matches will be played there. "This is because of the AFL investment in AAMI Stadium. There has been a $5 million upgrade of the ground," he said.

SANFL chief executive Leigh Whicker declined to comment on use of Adelaide Oval as an AFL venue.

The SANFL schedules about 12 league matches a year at Adelaide Oval and each Anzac Day holds a traditional contest between the previous year's grand finalists.

And then there are the concerts. Paul McCartney, Elton John, Neil Diamond, Michael Jackson, Madonna and Fleetwood Mac have all played to huge crowds on Adelaide Oval.

Because it is vital to maintain one of the world's finest cricket fields, at a cost of about $1 million a year, Ms Elliott said: "It is simply not possible to host any event on the ground on a daily or even weekly basis."

the render looked bloody fantastic!!
 

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approved??? that was quick! :)

and this does sound promising, the renders were exceptional and a lot of thought has obviously been put into the proposal
 

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great!!!
is the visual in the advertiser just an artists impression or an actual render?
 

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Sure, for the cricket or the SANFL.
But they recently awarded one of the Asian Cup qualifiers for the national team, to Adelaide Oval.
Viewing a sport like soccer/football, on a round oval, is just ridiculous and defeats the purpose of bieng a spectator at this sort of sporting event.
I want to be up close to the sidelines, not 50+ meters away from the action.
All the pricks at the FFA care about is money.
 

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This has been on the cards for ages. SACA need government funding for it to happen and since coming into office in the election before last, the Rann government has said no.

Don't hold your breath for this one.
 

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Rev said:
Sure, for the cricket or the SANFL.
But they recently awarded one of the Asian Cup qualifiers for the national team, to Adelaide Oval.
Viewing a sport like soccer/football, on a round oval, is just ridiculous and defeats the purpose of bieng a spectator at this sort of sporting event.
I want to be up close to the sidelines, not 50+ meters away from the action.
All the pricks at the FFA care about is money.
Yeah I was quite surprised they have chosen Adelaide Oval, I thought they would of chosen Hindmarsh Stadium (one of Australias best soccer grounds)

anyway, I really hope they do this redevelopment - BUT I do NOT want to see it turned into a mcg style stadium!!!
 

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Yeah I was quite surprised they have chosen Adelaide Oval, I thought they would of chosen Hindmarsh Stadium (one of Australias best soccer grounds)

anyway, I really hope they do this redevelopment - BUT I do NOT want to see it turned into a mcg style stadium!!!
It IS Australias best football grounds.
40k is hardly and MCG style stadium.
 

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Yeah I was quite surprised they have chosen Adelaide Oval, I thought they would of chosen Hindmarsh Stadium (one of Australias best soccer grounds)
Hindmarsh is too small for internationals of significance. They really need to expand it to fill in the holes on the corners with seating and to extend the
western grandstand the full length of the field not just 2/3rds and to build
a raised eastern grandstand. This would allow Hindmarsh to have say
a capacity of around 30,000 which would be sufficient.
 

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AdelaideSkytraveller said:
Hindmarsh is too small for internationals of significance. They really need to expand it to fill in the holes on the corners with seating and to extend the
western grandstand the full length of the field not just 2/3rds and to build
a raised eastern grandstand. This would allow Hindmarsh to have say
a capacity of around 30,000 which would be sufficient.
Not a Hindmarsh thread (perhaps we should make one) but um 30k for a football stadium in SA. your kidding. Only sometimes did Adelaide United reach capacity at there games. Waste of money.
 

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I agree george


but Soccer is fast becoming popular in Adelaide and the rest of the country
 

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Indeed it is an im glad but investors cant take the risk of predicting it will continue to grow enough to allow a 30k stadium.
 

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PROJECT: Adelaide Oval Redevelopment

great news...

$25m pledged to revamp Oval
January 26, 2007 12:33pm

THE Federal Government will provide up to $25 million towards the redevelopment of the western grandstand at the Adelaide Oval.

Finance Minister Senator Nick Minchin announced the grant today with South Australian Cricket Association chairman Ian McLachlan, ahead of the one-day international clash between Australia and England.

Senator Minchin said the funding was conditional upon the State Government increasing its contribution from $16 million to match the Commonwealth offer.

He said Adelaide Oval was "the most beautiful and picturesque" Test cricket ground in the world and an asset of both historic and cultural significance.

Mr McLachlan said the funding would allow SACA to develop the entire western stand, increasing the ground capacity by about 5000 to 37,000.

He said the association was currently negotiating with the State Government about increasing its contribution and was "hopeful of having some more good news in the coming weeks".

The development, which will cost about $70 million, is expected to start after Easter 2008 and will take about 18 months to complete.
 

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from the advertiser:
$70m upgrade but no footy

CRAIG BILDSTIEN

January 27, 2007 12:15am
Article from: The Advertiser



ADELAIDE Oval's western stand will be upgraded at a cost of $70 million after the Federal Government yesterday backed the project – but there will still be no AFL matches played there.

The long-awaited upgrade will boost the ground's capacity to 37,000, fuelling the South Australian Cricket Association's ambition to host top-level football.

The SACA's AFL bid yesterday was backed by Lord Mayor Michael Harbison, federal Finance Minister Nick Minchin and state Opposition Leader Iain Evans.

But the AFL, SANFL and local AFL clubs Adelaide and Port Adelaide again flatly ruled out moving any games from AAMI Stadium at West Lakes.

Senator Minchin yesterday used the traditional Australia Day day-night cricket match to announce funding of up to $25 million, conditional on matching funds from the State Government.

Premier Mike Rann, who has already committed $16 million, welcomed the federal contribution and said he was prepared to consider providing an extra $9 million.

This would bring the combined funding from the two governments to $50 million.

SACA chairman Ian McLachlan said even without the extra $18 million, the SACA was prepared to borrow enough to begin the project after Easter, 2008.

Expected to take at least 18 months, it will add a tier to the western stand, providing extra bars, dining rooms, corporate boxes and capacity for an extra 5000 spectators.

Mr McLachlan said the expansion would "most certainly attract rugby, soccer and, I hope one day, the AFL".

But SANFL executive commissioner Leigh Whicker immediately dismissed the idea and said: "How many times do we have to go through this? We have made our position very clear, the AFL has made its position very clear. It is not on our agenda at all – full stop."

AFL spokesman Patrick Keane agreed, saying SA already had an outstanding football stadium.

Adelaide Football Club chief Steven Trigg said: "AAMI Stadium is our home, where we want to be."

Likewise, Port Adelaide Football Club chief executive John James said his club was "totally committed" to AAMI Stadium and described SACA's push for AFL as "wishful thinking".

The SANFL last year unveiled plans for a $70 million facelift of AAMI Stadium over the next five years.

Mr Harbison said he would love to see footy at Adelaide Oval. "I've always been very supportive of that," he said.

Mr Evans said Friday night football at Adelaide Oval would be tremendous but he acknowledged commercial realities at AAMI Stadium meant it was "never going to happen".
 
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