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I expect there will be some opposition to the demolition of the Edwardian block.

I think it looks fantastic.
 

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I was in some conversations about this a number of months ago, and got really excited.

It's a difficult one, demolishing the historic part of the site seems a shame, but I'm all for progress rather than watching an old building fall into disrepair and an empty site surrounding it.

BIGGER PICTURE
 

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The Victorian block was renovated for Dept of Music, this is the Edwardian block facade that would be demolished. Same architect designed both buildings but the Edwardian block is apparently of less architectual significance than the other.
 

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The Victorian block was renovated for Dept of Music, this is the Edwardian block facade that would be demolished. Same architect designed both buildings but the Edwardian block is apparently of less architectual significance than the other.
Took the words out of my mouth Owlingmad!!, The Edwardian block facade is listed. It was only a few months ago that UoS were made to do work on it by English Heritage.

Im torn on this one, it would be a shame to lose another old Sheffield building, but the model of what is proposed does look impressive and makes use of the whole site, whereas the previous proposal didn't use half as much.

I went to that info session on Tuesday and spoke to the architect, he was involved in the Information Commons development which has worked well. Both he and the people from the uni were fairly confident they would get permission to demolish the old building, but didn't really answer my question when I asked about any opposition to the new development or what plans they had drawn up if they had to incorporate the existing building.

The construction would be concrete on either side with steel throughout the centre for the huge autitorium space. I was also told that the lattice type cladding would be a light cream colour.

The application goes in later in the summer.

I think the development will be called Jessop East, maybe that could be included in the title SCS?
 

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The old hospital has only been partially renovated.

It is a shame to see it go, but keeping the better part of it preserves the history.
As I say, the Uni has only recently (same time as Jessop West) refurbished the Victoria building for Music department, moving it away from Crookes and centralising the campus (and also close the the music cube)
 

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There's some more information here:

http://www.sheffield.ac.uk/polopoly_fs/1.183556!/file/Engineering_leaflet.pdf

Most interesting bit...

What are we seeking planning permission for?

Plans for the new engineering building are currently being prepared ready for a planning application this summer and the challenge is to make best use of the site, the only one across the University’s entire estate that is suitable in terms of size and location.

After thorough investigation of the challenges and opportunities of the Jessop East site, we believe that developing the whole site, which would involve demolition of the Edwardian extension of the old Jessop Hospital, is the only option which meets the University’s strategic need. The University has investigated in detail, over many months, how it might incorporate the Edwardian extension of the old hospital into this development. None of these options, which we have discussed with the City Council and English Heritage, meets the strategic needs of the Faculty of Engineering or its estate, which is
urgently in need of modernisation.

The Edwardian wing previously housed gynaecology and outpatient services, with labour wards located in the Victorian wing and St George’s wing.

We take our heritage buildings seriously and £53million has been invested in these buildings over the last three years alone. However the academic need and the potential for wider economic regeneration benefiting the whole city and beyond can best be served by developing the whole site.

Planning permission for whole site development would enable the University to create a bespoke building fully geared up to the demands of modern teaching and research.

A full site building could comfortably accommodate around 525 more people
than a scheme retaining the façade of the Edwardian extension. Over the two year construction period, the £80 million project would also create around 500 construction jobs, creating significant employment opportunities within the Sheffield area.

Once completed, the new building will help us to achieve our planned expansion in numbers of both students and staff. We will not only need academic and technical staff, but also significant numbers of support staff, such as porters, maintenance staff and cleaners. And with 4,000 people using the building at any one time, there will be a significant impact on the local economy
 

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http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/busin...-for-sheffield-university-expansion-1-4615676

Grand designs proposed for Sheffield university expansion

WITH its glass and lattice facade Sheffield University’s new £80 million engineering block will stand out on the city landscape.

A model has been created by the university showing how the development of the former Jessop Hospital will fit into the surrounding area.

The plans have caused controversy because they include demolishing the Grade II listed Edwardian wing of the old women’s hospital.

Sheffield Victorian Society and the Hallamshire Historic Buildings Society are set to object once a planning application is made.

Keith Lilley, director of estates and facilities management at Sheffield University, said: “The exterior will have a diamond grid pattern as part of its design to be a low carbon building.

“The different panels, some of which will be opaque, will manage solar gain within the building and the facade will also assist with natural ventilation rather than relying on air conditioning.”

Mr Lilley said the new building will house laboratories and the majority of the university’s engineering plant and equipment.

“Most engineering teaching will also be transferred to the new building,” he added.

Current engineering facilities in the Sir Frederick Mappin Building, Amy Johnson Building and Sir Robert Hadfield building are to be refurbished at a further cost of around £50 million.

Mr Lilley said the proposal to demolish the listed hospital building - in place of previous plans to restore it as a ‘learning hub’ - had been developed because expansion of the university ‘outweighs’ the need to preserve it.

He said: “We have 40 listed buildings in the university’s property portfolio - we take heritage very seriously and we are one of Sheffield’s most serious investors in historic buildings.

“But there are times when the need for economic investment is more pressing than the need for that building to be preserved.”

Mr Lilley said around 150 people attended consultation events organised by the university last week about its plans for the site.

He said: “Generally, people were positive about the proposals and some who were sceptical to begin with warmed to the idea of what we are proposing.”

A planning application is expected to be submitted to Sheffield Council in August.
 

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http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/news/university-engineers-reply-to-jessop-protesters-1-4628261

University engineers reply to Jessop protesters

THE University of Sheffield University has unveiled a model of its proposed £80m engineering block - as opposition emerges to the plans to demolish the Edwardian wing of the former Jessop Hospital.

University managers believe the redevelopment is needed to accommodate the growth of the Faculty of Engineering and to dramatically improve the condition of the working environment for students and staff.

But local conservationists are worried it will be at the expense of the city’s heritage, and say the building should be restored in a similar fashion to the Victorian wing, which now accommodates the Department of Music.

Sheffield Victorian Society and the Hallamshire Historic Buildings Society are preparing to object once a planning application has been made.

The University has created a model to indicate how the latest Jessop redevelopment would fit into the area.

Keith Lilley, director of estates and facilities management, said: “The exterior will have a diamond grid pattern as part of its design to be a low carbon building.

“The different panels, some of which will be opaque, will manage solar gain within the building and the facade will also assist with natural ventilation rather than relying on air conditioning.”

Mr Lilley said the new building would house laboratories and the majority of the university’s engineering plant and equipment. “Most engineering teaching will also be transferred to the new building,.”

Current engineering facilities in the Sir Frederick Mappin Building, Amy Johnson Building and Sir Robert Hadfield building are to be refurbished at a further cost of around £50m.

Mr Lilley said the proposal to demolish the listed hospital building - in place of previous plans to restore it as a ‘learning hub’ - had been developed because expansion of the University ‘outweighs’ the need to preserve it.

He said: “We have 40 listed buildings in the university’s property portfolio - we take heritage very seriously and we are one of Sheffield’s most serious investors in historic buildings.

“But there are times when the need for economic investment is more pressing than the need for that building to be preserved.”

Mr Lilley said around 150 people attended consultation events organised by the University about its plans for the site.

“Generally, people were positive about the proposals and some who were sceptical to begin with warmed to the idea of what we are proposing.”

A planning application is expected to be submitted to the council in August.

However, Valerie Bayliss, who chairs Sheffield Victorian Society, said: “We believe the Edwardian building should be restored like the Victorian wing, which the university has refurbished.”

The society said the University had previously set aside funds to restore the building, but had changed it plans.

Hallamshire Historic Buildings Society is also concerned, as is local history campaigner Ron Clayton.

He said: The University has made a fantastic job of the 1878 building. To save one and to disregard the other is illogical.”

Mr Lilley said the University would welcome the opportunity to discuss the project with the societies.
 

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If it's listed they can't do anything to it except restore it, use it or set it on fire.

Doubt EH will de-list it, and personally I'd rather see a building of varying height, with taller sides away from the old buildings, rather than a single height, albeit attractive block.
 

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If it's listed they can't do anything to it except restore it, use it or set it on fire.
If they decided to set fire to it, would it be classed as arson, even if they owned it? If so, who would get arrested? What would EH do in that case?
 

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Yes, it could be arson (deliberate) if it were proved so. The person setting the fire would be the one charged, if caught. But, like at the Ski Village and countless listed mills in Bradford, Halifax etc. the owners can't afford the upkeep and no-one wants to buy/develop. So they 'accidentally' burn down.
 
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