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The left must be seething back home in the USA...How dare Trump talk to leaders of RUSSIA, China and North Korea - Nice of him to drop in to say hi while in the neighbourhood...and be willing to talk to Iran. He should have troops lined up on all borders with his finger poised over the big red button hey ?
Why would the Left be seething? More like mixed signals and contradictions within his own administration. The US has bases around the World Baron. Would not take much for things to go wrong in the Straits of Hormuz so best stay well away from the big button.
 

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Trump seems to be very comfortable being with authoritarian figures not so much with American allies and democratic nations.
I'm not sure what's wrong with being chummy with those heads of state, bodes well for a more pacific globe.

It was more NATO and Canada that I was thinking about.
Oh poor Justin, the most beta male on the planet, I hope his feelings aren't hurt. Maybe you need to add him to the list of authoritarian figures given his Govt's treatment of media who are uncompliant to his regime.
 

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I'm not sure what's wrong with being chummy with those heads of state, bodes well for a more pacific globe.
Being more chummy with them and less with your Allies like democratic European NATO Nations makes little sense to me. Trump is chummy with the North Korean dictator who has Nuclear weapons but why not Iran or Cuba then ?
 

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Let's pretend big tech has no bias.:nuts:
The biggest reason they have bias? Keeping their advertisers happy. The bias behind the bias is the advertisers. Advertisers affiliate their branding dangerously with political social issues these days. For example, the Gillette advert, which is an example of controlled controversy. What the advertisers really don't like is uncontrolled controversy. The advertisers direct their dollars towards what they think is the general consensus of the target market.

The only way big tech will change is if the advertising dollar pushes them to NOT demonetizing conservative channels. The whole adopocalypse with Steven Crowder vs @gaywonk on Twitter was @gaywonk pushing advertising towards them. NBC invested 200m into Vox. Online advertising is now bigger than TV advertising in the US, it's 110b vs 60b and of that 110b, Google has most of it. That's what Google is protecting.

And these suggestion algorithms? They are trying to hopelessly get you to go to channels not demonetized because if you go to a channel on YT that has no adverts? Google gets no money. It's all a vicious circle.
 

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That it’s happening in a left bastion. So are Aussies just we’re not allowed to be.
So you reckon Quebec is a Left bastion well not sure how you define Left but what I read about Quebec is that its government is a centre-right to right-wing Quebec nationalist and autonomist provincial political party. The press over there describe it as centre-right and populist by Quebec standards. Canada itself is a parliamentary democracy and has a Westminster system. It ranks among the highest in international measurements of government transparency, civil liberties, quality of life, economic freedom, and education but hey knock it if you want. Not much point Trump being friendly with Canada when you got Kim Jong Un instead. Maybe instead of people viewing everything as a battle between Left and Right they should concentrate more between democratic versus authoritarian or tyranny versus liberty.
 

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Oh poor Justin, the most beta male on the planet, I hope his feelings aren't hurt. Maybe you need to add him to the list of authoritarian figures given his Govt's treatment of media who are uncompliant to his regime.
I think you have lost a fair bit of perspective and you draw a very long bow if you think the likes of Justin Trudeau can be compared with a tyrant like Kim Jong Un. Peace, engagement and a denuclearised North Korea is a good thing same with Iran. We should however never excuse or forget North Korea remains one of the world’s most repressive states. Its government restricts all civil and political liberties, including freedom of expression, assembly, association, and religion. It also prohibits all organised political opposition, independent media, civil society, and trade unions.
 

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Why would the Left be seething? More like mixed signals and contradictions within his own administration. The US has bases around the World Baron. Would not take much for things to go wrong in the Straits of Hormuz so best stay well away from the big button.
Because the left has been seething about Trump since he was elected President. Whatever he does the left twists it in a knot. I know...you know...he knows dictators are not nice people but to go in all guns blazing is not the way to keep a peaceful world. He could have justifiably responded with US drone shoot down with a reprisal of some degree...He is better off working with nations than bombing them whatever their ideology. What I agree with is his clear statement that as he shows restraint he would not hesitate to respond with overwhelming force if one of these states goes beyond a reasonable position. I am also sure during the G20 he would have told Russia and China his intentions about Iran knowing nobody comes out of a full on war smelling like roses.
 

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Its stupid and according to it virtually all of Australians would be wearing a Soviet flag, which is so out of date with the reality of the political makeup of the world.

Conservative Americans don't even have a clue as to what Socialism is.

They would declare Australia an enemy Communist nation if they had half a clue about our system.
 

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^^ Well, clearly someone doesn't have a sense of humour. Don't you get the joke?

And what are you trying to say, that "virtually all australians" would be considered to be leftists in the United States? I somehow doubt it.
 

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The Democrats in the USA have moved to the left...this is clear and not negotiable.
Hence when it comes to the 2020 elections all the poor and illegals will vote Democrat and also the wealthy elites who know nothing will trample their lifestyle no matter what imposts on the rich are made. The principle of the Democrats is unlimited poor who will always vote democrat and a middle class that will carry the can.
...As this becomes a numbers game, while the typical American holds sway Republicans should hold power but till the wall is completed this will not continue. I think Trump should bus all the illegal immigrants to Los Angeles and San Francisco. California will never vote Republican so let them have what they want...It's not a moral issue...If that was the case every civilised country in the world would take most underprivileged from Asia, the Middle East and Africa. So millions of people would arrive in every city. Would you change your lifestyle to include this change ? I expect all the bleeding hearts welcome fairness and equality while maintaining their current position if not increasing their station in life. It just like...probably the same people who cry Climate Change while using Coal energy every day of their life.
 

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The democrats in the US are no more liberal now than they were 20, even 40 years ago. People say that the democrats have moved far to the left because they support gay rights, but that's no different from the civil rights movement of the 60's. People say the democrats have moved far to the left because they support universal health care, but that's no different from FDR enacting social security in the 30's and LBJ enacting all kinds of social welfare acts in the 60's. People say the democrats have moved far to the left because they're sympathetic to illegal immigrants, but that's no different than democrat support of the radical change in immigration laws in the 60's.

The only difference today is that the issues are different than they were 20, 40 and more years ago. The desire for change is about the same.

Illegal immigrants do not vote. You need to be a US citizen in order to do so.
 

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It just like...probably the same people who cry Climate Change while using Coal energy every day of their life.
It's not like people who use electricity (which is everybody) have any choice of the source of the electricity they're consuming. The majority of the electricity I use comes from coal power (a minority comes from wind and I think some hydroelectric). Do I like having the majority of my electricity come from coal? No. But do I have any choice in where this electricity comes from? No. That's why people make it a political issue - to change something they cannot change by themselves.
 

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4 more years for Trump.
Right now, that is not looking good.

Trump's approval rating even in many heavily republican states are miserable. Trump won my state (Missouri) by 19% points, but he is just barely treading even. In the 3 "surprise" states he won in 2016 - Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania - he is well behind. He is also well behind in Iowa and Ohio. In a swath of heavily republican states in the Plains from Kansas to North Dakota, he is barely even. He SHOULD be up by 10-20% in those states:

https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump/
 
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