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Modi is now MP from Varanasi and lots of news about is development is featuring everyday in newspapers.


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Blueprint for a clean, green Varanasi

LUCKNOW: The blueprint for Modi's vision of Varanasi is out. Modernisation of ghats with special focus on Dashaswamedh Ghat, motor boats in Ganga and a greener Varanasi are highlights of the concept as of now. The ghats would be beautified on the lines of Sabarmati riverfront in Ahmedabad:bash:, while other efforts would ensure Varanasi becomes spiritual capital of the country. It is, thus, a plan for development keeping its originality and characteristic features intact.

A look at the blueprint gives out the perception that Varanasi is in for total makeover. Sources privy to the conceptualisation told TOI that every minute detail had been taken care of to ensure that originality of the oldest city remains.

The blueprint was presented to Modi before the polls and he has given a go ahead with the remark: "Even if I lose from Varanasi, it would be developed on the same lines", sources said.
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Varanasi set for bigger role, may get mini PMO

VARANASI: Prime minister designate Narendra Modi is yet to announce his decision to retain the Varanasi Lok Sabha seat, but activities inside the Modi camp in Varanasi suggest the city is gearing up for a larger role in the political scenario. The holy city, which Modi said would assume the status of Rashtra Guru, is likely to house a "mini PMO" to execute Modi's plans here.
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Team Modi proposes 60 flyovers to decongest Varanasi


LUCKNOW: Even before he enters parliament as MP of Varanasi and India's Prime Minister, Narendra Modi has already started development plans for his parliamentary constituency as well as the rest of the country. Sources in the government told TOI, Team Modi has reached out to the bureaucracy and sounded the bugle call on development initiatives for the holy city.

Apart from the plans for cleaning up Ganga and the rest of the city, schemes are also afoot for easing the traffic congestion in the city. Top sources in the government said Modi had already issued directions to his team, directing them to draw up a list of tasks that need to be taken up for the city on priority basis.

Among the major plans that are already beginning to take shape, Modi's BJP team in Varanasi has proposed nearly 60 flyovers inside the city and connecting the two banks of the Ganges. In addition, the communication cell of the party has also started off an online campaign asking people to set the agenda for the Modi government for implementation in the next 100 days and one year. Professor of political science at BHU, KK Mishra, said, "Team Modi plans, primarily, to focus on restoring the Ganga to the glory it had known in the 1970s. There are also plans afoot to crack down on commercial activities on the ghats."
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If he cleans up the river Ganga that would be a remarkable
achievement in itself as 44% of the states populations lives close
to it's banks.
 

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Varanasi is India's next boom town

NEW DELHI: Until recently, Harish Jaiswal couldn't convince anyone that buying a posh apartment in a high-rise on the outskirts of Varanasi was a good idea. Those who lived in the ancient temple town simply weren't interested in venturing that far after dodging their way through the near-permanent traffic jam in the city centre. The suburban dream just didn't seem worth the hassle.

"It takes an hour just to get out of the city. Who would want to buy a home in the outer areas?" said real estate agent Jaiswal, who runs Satyam Property Dealers.

But all that's set to change with Narendra Modi, elected from Varanasi and Vadodara, having stormed to power at the head of a strong majority in the general election.
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Varanasi has the worst traffic I have seen in this country ...roads are more like dirt tracks and congestion is every where ...not to mention the FILTH religious ceremonies produce in Varanasi. Parts of city smell really bad due to rotten corpses.
 

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can you shift the thread to chaibar?

all you mentioned falls under state subject and Modi wont be able to do anything. He even wont be able to allocate funds for Varanasi. Varanasi will get funds like anyother city in India under no discrimination or generic policy.

Implementation and planning all has to be done by state.

e.g Sonia can not sanction all budgets to Amethi / Raibareilly and ignore rest of cities and districts in India

No need to discuss false news and Media propoganda.
 

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can you shift the thread to chaibar?

all you mentioned falls under state subject and Modi wont be able to do anything. He even wont be able to allocate funds for Varanasi. Varanasi will get funds like anyother city in India under no discrimination or generic policy.

Implementation and planning all has to be done by state.

e.g Sonia can not sanction all budgets to Amethi / Raibareilly and ignore rest of cities and districts in India

No need to discuss false news and Media propoganda.
calm down buddy - it is not true that central govt. and member of parliaments cannot implement projects in specific constitutencies. Vajpayee built Ama Shaheed Path in Lucknow and was half way through with Lucknow Haat among many other road , water , sanitation projects.
 

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educate youself and understand how the system works.

Atal did not built the shaheed path. Shahed path was part of NH project to create ring round around lucknow to connect Kanpur road to Faizabad road. NH has implemeted hundreads of ring road around village to small town to big cities.

MP has no power to do any thing in his constituency. He can only make representation to respective departments and department based on funds, pripority, need, master plan takes up the projects.

If MP start deciding projects Indian system will collapse in a day. If MP has to take decision we dont need any govt departments.

calm down buddy - it is not true that central govt. and member of parliaments cannot implement projects in specific constitutencies. Vajpayee built Ama Shaheed Path in Lucknow and was half way through with Lucknow Haat among many other road , water , sanitation projects.
 

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if MP has to decide what has to be done in Lucknow / Varanasi then you do not need state governemnts. Why do we waste billions in state election and running state govt and departments.

calm down buddy - it is not true that central govt. and member of parliaments cannot implement projects in specific constitutencies. Vajpayee built Ama Shaheed Path in Lucknow and was half way through with Lucknow Haat among many other road , water , sanitation projects.
 

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special status for what?
Yes city can get special status under a policy where other cities in India also qualify to compete.
lets say Heritage city policy from BJP is implemented and they allocate 5000crore.
In such situation all cities in India will compete to get funds including Varanasi, Mathura etc. Who will send proposal to center? Its the state that has to develop the proposal and lobby to get funds. if proposal fits the policy BJP/Modi can allocate and give priority to varanasi but need strong reason. If other better city is denied funds can be challenged in courts. (we will have scam).


Can the central govt. give special status to certain cities ?
 

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if MP has to decide what has to be done in Lucknow / Varanasi then you do not need state governemnts. Why do we waste billions in state election and running state govt and departments.
Of course Central govt. needs state help in executing projects and Modi realizes that as well. We should wait and watch rather than cry like a hopeless dehati aurat. He has said that he wishes that SP govt. wont reject good development projects in state. And trust me they wont - it would upset people's sentiments and also make things difficult for the state govt. as well. Also , If Modi decides to develop Varanasi under a centrally sanctioned project , state govt. cannot do a thing about it.
 

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no one is crying like dehati aurat....
Problem is without applying any thought you and many jump on to draw conclusion that has no basis. (and do not spend few seconds to start new thread)

we already have initiative by central govt
http://moef.nic.in/sites/default/files/ngrba/index.html

check the staus of project from different state govternments.

Keep one thing in mind. Funds with central or state government are not private property of MP/MLA.
any spending of funds has to be under policy that must follow indian constitution.



Of course Central govt. needs state help in executing projects and Modi realizes that as well. We should wait and watch rather than cry like a hopeless dehati aurat. He has said that he wishes that SP govt. wont reject good development projects in state. And trust me they wont - it would upset people's sentiments and also make things difficult for the state govt. as well.
 

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modi wont be able to do any think inside a state. Remember Maya and Sonia battle. Maya did not give Sonia an inch of land and Sonia most powerful women could not start even one central project (AIIMS, Rail Coach factory etc)

If You want to say modi has no respect for center and state division of subjects(responsibilities) and he wants to be impose president rule in UP to develop varanasi only god can save BJP/Modi


Of course Central govt. needs state help in executing projects and Modi realizes that as well. We should wait and watch rather than cry like a hopeless dehati aurat. He has said that he wishes that SP govt. wont reject good development projects in state. And trust me they wont - it would upset people's sentiments and also make things difficult for the state govt. as well. Also , If Modi decides to develop Varanasi under a centrally sanctioned project , state govt. cannot do a thing about it.
 

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no one is crying like dehati aurat....
Problem is without applying any thought you and many jump on to draw conclusion that has no basis. (and do not spend few seconds to start new thread)

we already have initiative by central govt
http://moef.nic.in/sites/default/files/ngrba/index.html

check the staus of project from different state govternments.

Keep one thing in mind. Funds with central or state government are not private property of MP/MLA.
any spending of funds has to be under policy that must follow indian constitution.
let me give you an example : if Modi decides to make a road in Varanasi and release funds for it under some scheme - the local govt, would be obliged to accept that fund and execute that project. State govt. cannot say : no we wont let you build a road here(unless they prove that this project is harmful). the best they can do is to siphon off the funds and show the work on paper only. That is highly unlikely to happen if Modi keeps a strict eye on his projects. CENTRAL GOVT> CAN IMPLEMENT PROJECTS SANCTIONED BY CENTRAL GOVT. ONLY AND IF THERE IS A CLASH OF INTEREST BETWEEN CENTRAL AND STATE. GOVT. the decision of central govt. is full and final. I have read it in my class 10th book.
 

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First let me tell you what you studied in class 10th was wrong. Either your teacher was bad or you studied books from local publisher.

Lets talk specifics

Tell me under which head Modi can release funds?

Roads fall under following departments.

National Highways (Roda inside city is not national highway) (Responsibility of Center)

State highways (Center has no role in state higways and only state manages state highways) (do not fall inside cities)

MDR (Major District Roads) (Center has no zuridiction on MDR and ODR Other district roads) and both do not fall inside cities

Municipality roads (Elected Municipal corporation maintains the roads) Most roads inside the city falls inside its Zuridiction

Development Authority roads (If the road is not under Municipal Corporation it falls under Development Authority) (eg Lucknow development Authority manages roads, Noida Development Authority manages roads)

Village roads (connects village to ODR, MDR and SH). We already have program under Prdhan Mantri Gramin Sadak Yojana. (Wont help Varanasi City)

Roads inside a village is maintained by Panchayat. (center can release funds to whole country no one stops Modi)

Tell me under which head Modi can release funds for Municipal Corporation of Varanasi (currently controlled by BJP)?

Yes Modi can give his MP development fund of 5 crore but is just sufficient for 5kms of below average quality road.



so not only misinterpreted my comment but also skipped the main point . let me give you an example : if Modi decides to make a road in Varanasi and release funds for it under some scheme - the local govt, would be obliged to accept that fund and execute that project. State govt. cannot say : no we wont let you build a road here(unless they prove that this project is harmful). the best they can do is to siphon off the funds and show the work on paper only. That is highly unlikely to happen if Modi keeps a strict eye on his projects. CENTRAL GOVT> CAN IMPLEMENT PROJECTS SANCTIONED BY CENTRAL GOVT. ONLY AND IF THERE IS A CLASH OF INTEREST BETWEEN CENTRAL AND STATE. GOVT. the decision of central govt. is full and final. I have read it in my class 10th book.
 

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^^ :lol: according to you central govt. is powerless if it wants to overturn a Muncipal corp. decision or a state govt. decision. Frtily , My teacher was a Phd. from DU ..secondly I studied in iCSE board with books of national authors....thirdly state and local bodies donot create hindrance if center wants to do some GOOD work forthly in case if a work of central govt. clashes with state or local bodies then the decision of central govt. overpowers them. When Rahul Gandhi says that it is the responsibilty of state govt. to build roads in Amethi thatswhy he only focused upon NH then he forgot that Center can direct local bodies to carry out specific work , it is NOT obligatory as it is not their JOB but if they WANT they always can. Indian System has division of work but it is not local pockets of power. There is a hierarchy in power and center sits at the top of it. I'll give you an anology for this:

You are working in a team where you have to host a birthday party. There is a team leader X . You (Y) have been assigned the work of arranging food and in your sub group a person(Z) is assigned the task of arranging cake. If the leader X wishes to have a specific type of cake then it can command Y. You can argue with X but X's decision would overpower yours as he is the higher authority. Then you have to direct Z to arrange that cake. Y cannot say that he wont accept X's proposal and similarly Z cannot say the same to Y and X.

In the above analogy eventhough Y and Z are free to plan and execute as they seem fit they cannot contradict X's command even if they wish something else.

"The principles adopted from Canada were federal government with strong centre and also distribution of powers between central government and state governments along with placing residuary powers with central government." - from wiki
 

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One thing now you confirms is PHD from DU is as good as junk :)

^^ :lol: according to you central govt. is powerless if it wants to overturn a Muncipal corp. decision or a state govt. decision. Frtily , My teacher was a Phd. from DU ..secondly I studied in iCSE board with books of national authors....thirdly state and local bodies donot create hindrance if center wants to do some GOOD work forthly in case if a work of central govt. clashes with state or local bodies then the decision of central govt. overpowers them.
Central govt rules the state only under president rule via governer.

When Rahul Gandhi says that it is the responsibilty of state govt. to build roads in Amethi thatswhy he only focused upon NH then he forgot that Center can direct local bodies to carry out specific work , it is NOT obligatory as it is not their JOB but if they WANT they always can.
Under any circumstances Center can not overrule elected state govt or elected municipal corporation

Indian System has division of work but it is not local pockets of power. There is a hierarchy in power and center sits at the top of it. I'll give you an anology for this:

You are working in a team where you have to host a birthday party. There is a team leader X . You (Y) have been assigned the work of arranging food and in your sub group a person(Z) is assigned the task of arranging cake. If the leader X wishes to have a specific type of cake then it can command Y. You can argue with X but X's decision would overpower yours as he is the higher authority. Then you have to direct Z to arrange that cake. Y cannot say that he wont accept X's proposal and similarly Z cannot say the same to Y and X.

In the above analogy eventhough Y and Z are free to plan and execute as they seem fit they cannot contradict X's command even if they wish something else.
The thread is not to discuss the Indian constitution

"The principles adopted from Canada were federal government with strong centre and also distribution of powers between central government and state governments along with placing residuary powers with central government." - from wiki
Tell me the specific from where Modi will get funds to give to Municipal Corporation of Varanasi? and under which policy? why will he discriminate between lets say Meerut Municipal Corporation or Mathura or any town in Bihar or TN, MH etc.
 
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