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Is there any news at all about a VHST (Very high speed train)/ bullet train to be built anywhere in australia.

I have found news on the canberra airport, master plan about The government wanting to set up a VHST from Sydney airport to Canberra airport which would be able to travel to canberra within 80 mins compared to the 3 and a half hours.
This was turned down in the late 90's but they are considering it for early next decade. All this is because of Canberra Airport becoming international with their new services and to take the ease of the sydney Kingsford smith airport instead of building a second international airport in sydney. Then they were considering connecting this service down to melbourne etc.. Forming a link between all 3 cities.
Read http://skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=349537 for more information on Canberra International Airport
 

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Call me cynical, but this won't happen for at least another 50 years.

Local, state and federal governments are all too wrapped up in roads.

The only rail project in the budget? a $250m upgrade for the north coast of NSW (which I believe is merely resignalling). For reference, that's the same as the estimated cost of the Cronulla duplication project.

Pitiful.

State won't do it, Feds won't do it. It's a catch-22. They all try to get the other guys to do it and nobody does, so it doesn't get done.
 

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I dont think it'll ever be built - we dont have the population density to sustain it.
 

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cammo2004 said:
Call me cynical, but this won't happen for at least another 50 years.

Local, state and federal governments are all too wrapped up in roads.

The only rail project in the budget? a $250m upgrade for the north coast of NSW (which I believe is merely resignalling). For reference, that's the same as the estimated cost of the Cronulla duplication project.

Pitiful.

State won't do it, Feds won't do it. It's a catch-22. They all try to get the other guys to do it and nobody does, so it doesn't get done.
I think the 250 million dollar figure is an additional figure. So the previous applocated funding plus, another 250 million dollar to fast track this project.
 

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The only place I can see a train like that working is Melbourne - Geelong.

Put in the train and many will consider a sea change...I mean, Why pay 5 mil for a closet in Port Melbourne when you can have a beach front farm in Corio....
 

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MelbourneCity said:
I dont think it'll ever be built - we dont have the population density to sustain it.
What about the fact that Melb-Sydney is one of the world's busiest routes in terms of air traffic? The airlines actually supported the Melb-Canberra-Sydney VHST because it would've allowed them to cut the short flights between these cities, saving them money.
 

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cammo2004 said:
The only rail project in the budget? a $250m upgrade for the north coast of NSW (which I believe is merely resignalling). For reference, that's the same as the estimated cost of the Cronulla duplication project.
It's worse than that... the money is for resleepering... too bad most of the line needs realignment.
 

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MelbourneCity said:
I dont think it'll ever be built - we dont have the population density to sustain it.
That's not true. This has been discussed endlessly already. There's a fed. government document floating around somewhere that suggests this would be sustainable.

*Cue: Tayser...*
 

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cammo2004 said:
To be fair, that section of line probably needs it... :runaway:
But what's the point of resleepering a line which needs to be ripped up and realigned anyway? $250 million down the toilet. So after this resleepering project is complete, trains will now be able to maintain an average speed of 20 km/h instead of 19 km/h! Wow! By the way, I plucked those speeds out of thin air. But hopefully you get my point. :)
 

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hmmm.. interesting i was just talking about this in the canberra airport thread. i didn't know this thread was in some way connected to that one.

surely the goverment, state and fed have "higher priorities"
 

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The only place I can see a train like that working is Melbourne - Geelong.

Put in the train and many will consider a sea change...I mean, Why pay 5 mil for a closet in Port Melbourne when you can have a beach front farm in Corio....
LOL there are far many more places than Geelong that are screaming for a VFT. Wollongong>Sydney>CC>Newy is a far better option IMO. This conurbation also has a much larger feeder population that will use it.
 

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trentthomson said:
But what's the point of resleepering a line which needs to be ripped up and realigned anyway? $250 million down the toilet. So after this resleepering project is complete, trains will now be able to maintain an average speed of 20 km/h instead of 19 km/h! Wow! By the way, I plucked those speeds out of thin air. But hopefully you get my point. :)
In all honesty, $250m is a drop in the bucket these days, so I'd hardly place it as a complete waste.

It's not like a realignment is going to happen anytime soon, is it - It might be done by the end of this century...
 

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The only rail project in the budget? a $250m upgrade for the north coast of NSW (which I believe is merely resignalling).
Actually (feel free to prove me wrong if I am :)), I think it also includes a few major deviations on very slow sections of the line.

It's part of a longer-term project to totally rebuild the line, I think.
 

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What about the fact that Melb-Sydney is one of the world's busiest routes in terms of air traffic? The airlines actually supported the Melb-Canberra-Sydney VHST because it would've allowed them to cut the short flights between these cities, saving them money.
pull out the air and TGV traffic figures for Paris-Marseilles for a reasonably valid look at what a VHST would do.
 

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Actually (feel free to prove me wrong if I am :)), I think it also includes a few major deviations on very slow sections of the line.

It's part of a longer-term project to totally rebuild the line, I think.
Which, no doubt, will take three times the scheduled time to complete. :bash:
 
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