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Master_Builder
Cornbrook Hub Manchester Waters | Castlefield
Apartments/Hotel/Aparthotel | Manchester

Thread: https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=2055992


  • Address: Cornbrook Hub, Castlefield, Manchester

  • Architect: Leach Rhodes Walker Hotel/Aparthotel; Sheppard Robson Residential

  • Ground floor commercial space: 373sqm

  • Floors: 11-15

  • No. of apartments: 280 / No.of Hotel rooms: 242

  • Developer/s: Glenbrook CB Limited and Peel Land (Intermediate) Limited

Current status

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118625/FO/2017 | Full planning application for the erection of a part 14, part 15 storey building to form 280 residential apartments (C3a) together with ground floor commercial unit (373 sqm) (Use Classes A1, A2 or A3) with associated car parking, landscaping, public realm and other associated works following demolition of existing buildings and; Outline planning application (with all matters reserved) for the erection of part 11, part 15 building to form a 154 bed hotel and 88 bed apart-hotel building (Use Class C1) together with a single storey retail building (140 sqm) (Use Classes A1, A2, A3, A4 or A5) with associated public realm, car parking, and other associated works following demolition of existing buildings | Land Bounded By Dinton Street, Cornbrook Road, Chester Road And Trentham Street Manchester M15 4FX
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VDB
Terrible

All that effort that DeTrafford and Ollier Smurthwaite have put in to regenerate this area carefully and then Peel just fart along and take advantage with a piece of complete and utter trash

Shameful stuff
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Master_Builder
The hotel is some sort of sick joke. :cry:
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J
Oh look, more apartments looking directly at one another
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rolybling
Shite
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Master_Builder
The hotel is exactly the same as what was shown in the consultation. They obviously got favorable remarks. :nuts:

Master_Builder said:
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jrb said:
Peel and Glenbrook reveal Cornbrook hotel and resi plans

29 Nov 2017, 11:23

The proposed Chester Road development by a joint venture between Peel and Glenbrook is likely to be 14 storeys tall at its highest point.


https://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/news/peel-and-glenbrook-reveal-cornbrook-hotel-and-resi-plans/
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Master_Builder
One frickin person? From Planning Statement.

Nine written responses were received during the exhibition. Overall, these responses were generally positive with five of the respondents (56%) stating they were supportive of the proposals. Three respondents (33.33%) were undecided, and one respondent (11%) was unsupportive.
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Looks very Benidorm
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Hotel isn’t final design. Outline planning app only. Planning app will be submitted at a later stage.
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Leach Rhodes Walker haven’t designed the residential, that’s by Sheppard Robson
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AJD1984 said:
Hotel isn’t final design. Outline planning app only. Planning app will be submitted at a later stage.
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This is important and I'm glad it's been raised. Hopefully this design won't see the light of day.

The apartment blocks aren't DeTrafford quality but aren't bad!
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Master_Builder
Well thats a relief. Phew.

I honestly don't mind the Flats. Quite like them in fact. The materials are pretty decent, I don't think the visuals do them justice. Its the material of choice again for the main cladding - anodized aluminium. Think the fair faced concrete against the anodized aluminium will look rather striking, especially with those copper lines. That balustrade is atrocious though. That should be glass.







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Keith_Andrew
Jesus Christ people - calm down. :)

The hotel, as AJ stated, is not the final design.

And the flats look fricking gorgeous. Far more Scandinavian than Benidorm, and some real subtleties in the design to ensure the flats all get light.
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Chorltonred
Think it looks OK myself? And it is a long way out of town; we wouldn't have dreamt of this here 10 years ago.

Having said that if all the De Trafford stuff is finished this area will really move up market, so they should aim pretty high.
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Keith_Andrew said:
Jesus Christ people - calm down. :)

The hotel, as AJ stated, is not the final design.

And the flats look fricking gorgeous. Far more Scandinavian than Benidorm, and some real subtleties in the design to ensure the flats all get light.
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Keith said something to me just after the consultation that is actually true, surprisingly ;). This isn't Castlefield or Manchester Gardens.

The style of Manchester Gardens is gorgeous and Glenbrook have kept that with The Trilogy and tweaked it slightly. Cornbrook is a different area. It needs to establish its own identity whilst referencing some of the similar styles used around St Georges.

The residential towers have a zig-zag similar to No1 Castlefield tower; they are grey/white exposed floors similar to The Trilogy/No1 Castlefield tower; they are similar in height to Manchester Gardens; blocky like St Georges Island etc.

Outline Permission for Hotel

The outline elements of the application are identi ed below:

• A maximum number of hotel and apart-hotel bedrooms (C1 use): Hotel - up to 154 bedrooms
Apart-hotel - up to 88 bedrooms

• A maximum quantum of retail oor-space (186sqm, Use Classes
A1 to A5)

• Maximum development envelopes set out in parameter plans,
including parameters for height, width and length of each building;

• Minimum distances and positioning of facing windows between
the hotel building and the neighbouring residential building (applied
for in detail);

• Broad locations for the service yard, car parking, and public realm;

• Principle access points into the hotel site will be established in the
parameters plans.

Details of appearance, landscape, and internal layout would be reserved for the outline element of the Site for later approval via reserved matters applications. An indicative scheme is, however, included in the hybrid application for the outline element of the development to give one iteration of how the internal layouts, appearance, and public realm of the hotel, apart-hotel and retail unit could come forward within the de ned parameter plans. The Design and Access Statement also sets out guidance for the future reserved matters applications, such as potential internal con gurations and car parking numbers achievable.
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guy debord
Those balconies look perfect for a nice relaxing stand up
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AJD1984 said:
They had a precedent image of a tower and I thought if you can replicate that pattern we'd be on to a winner. I'll try and find it.
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I like it, we need more Apartment blocks with balconies.
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Cherguevara
The apartment block is giving me a West Berlin utilitarian mass housing sort of vibe. Of course it'll probably be made of shite materials, but I can't say I hate it at this stage.
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Currently in Amsterdam, lots of similar stuff here once you get out of the Old Centre. It's a vast improvement to Cornbrook, unless I've missed something it's a nothing dump?
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