WELLINGTON: City Development (Part 1)

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flyin_higher

Discussion Starter · Jul 27, 2004 (Edited)

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Covering all new developments/ and projects under construction in the Capital City of Wellington. Will update when needed.

Bolton Apartments, 20 levels.

Status- nearing completion externally

Museum Apartments, 10 levels

Status- under construction

Holiday Inn Hotel-Apartment Tower, 14 levels

Status- approved. I was in Wellington a week or so ago, and walked past the site, there was a large billboard up advertising the project, so all looks set to go.

There is a proposed 12 level mulit-use tower opposite the Duxton Hotel on Jervois Quay corner, subject to a resource consent.

There are 2 new Government Ministry buildings, one under construction for the Ministry for the Environment (10 levels), and one about to be built for the Ministry of Defence, 10 levels also.
Both are in the Thorndon area, adjacent to the CBD/Parliament.

Also, the Wellington City Council has recently taken in development proposals for a sizeable site in the CBD, known as "Chews Lane", which has variying height restrrictions, but can go up to 90m on one part. Nothing has yet been decided, but it will contain a mix of retail. apartments and office.

:cheers:

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Kane007

· #481 · Jul 6, 2006

Wellington only has to worry about earthquakes and Tawa (see Lynn of...)
Auckland should be worried about volcanoes, Bishop Tamaki, Otara/Mangere and politicians.
Christchurch, bugger, their up shit creek. Earthquakes, volcanoes (banks peninsula), Tsunami's, New Brighton, skinheads, snow, drought, smog, and politicians!

p.s. "Whats Brian Tamaki's worse nightmare. People thinking for THEMSELVES!"

NZGSR

· #482 · Jul 6, 2006

Kane007 said:
Wellington only has to worry about earthquakes and Tawa (see Lynn of...)
Auckland should be worried about volcanoes, Bishop Tamaki, Otara/Mangere and politicians.
Christchurch, bugger, their up shit creek. Earthquakes, volcanoes (banks peninsula), Tsunami's, New Brighton, skinheads, snow, drought, smog, and politicians!

p.s. "Whats Brian Tamaki's worse nightmare. People thinking for THEMSELVES!"

Dont forget Christchurch- Fires from drought :cheers: I wouldnt class volcanoes a problem in christchurch BP has blown itself to bits! Plus snow nothing wrong with that so thats a plus not a negative the rest is right thoe lol

flyin_higher

Discussion Starter · #483 · Jul 6, 2006

Kane007 said:
And what, have an earthquake break all the undergrounded cables. No, its a lot easier after the big one to just erect more power poles to string the cables along. Rebuilding Te Papa, hmmm, ???, no worries, they'll just get the taxpayers to pay for it again. Next time choosing another reclamed land on top of a different faultline. :bash:

Actually they built Te Papa to be 99% earthquake proof, with those base isolators and cement-ified soil they built on.

dubious

· #484 · Jul 6, 2006

Kane007 said:
Auckland should be worried about volcanoes, Bishop Tamaki, Otara/Mangere and politicians.

:rofl: how accurate!
The politicians point is a good one. I'm all for Auckland breaking away from Wellington's control in one way or another. It should be made a self-governing entity of NZ, like Hong Kong with China, or Seoul in Korea.

That way revenue collected in Auckland could be spent entirely in Auckland, rather than being used to prop up the rest of the country while we get poor value for money. We would also avoid the current situation with the likes of Wellingtonians deciding what's best for us from 650km away.

flyin_higher

Discussion Starter · #485 · Jul 6, 2006

^^Agreed :cheers: There has to be a better arragement than the one we have now. They say 'if it ain't broken don't fix it' well in this case its broken, so lets do something about it and fix it- give Auckland, and the other city regions as well, greater say about city governance and revenue control.

Kane007

· #486 · Jul 6, 2006

flyin_higher said:
Actually they built Te Papa to be 99% earthquake proof, with those base isolators and cement-ified soil they built on.

Yes thats cool I know, but what if the reclamned land its built on does a Napier and heads south?

flyin_higher

Discussion Starter · #487 · Jul 6, 2006

'Does a Napier'? But the land rose in the 1931 Earthquake! lol

Kane007

· #488 · Jul 6, 2006

You know I didn't actually think about it sinking, rather moving laterally. But that would really be a bugger wouldn't it?

flyin_higher

Discussion Starter · #489 · Jul 6, 2006

Yea it would lol. Napier only rose up nealry 2 metres in '31; it didn't move laterally at all. But Wellington would be a different story because its on a transverse faultline (one that moves sideways), so its entirely plausible!

NZGSR

· #490 · Jul 6, 2006

dubious said:
:rofl: how accurate!
The politicians point is a good one. I'm all for Auckland breaking away from Wellington's control in one way or another. It should be made a self-governing entity of NZ, like Hong Kong with China, or Seoul in Korea.

That way revenue collected in Auckland could be spent entirely in Auckland, rather than being used to prop up the rest of the country while we get poor value for money. We would also avoid the current situation with the likes of Wellingtonians deciding what's best for us from 650km away.

I think we have more chance of us southerners breaking away than Auckland atleast we are on a different island

Cutting the cable wouldnt be a bad thing for the South island money wise imagine how much we could charge you guys for power plus all this oil they are finding down here we could have a very nice bank statement.

Capt P

· #491 · Jul 6, 2006

dubious said:
:rofl: how accurate!
The politicians point is a good one. I'm all for Auckland breaking away from Wellington's control in one way or another. It should be made a self-governing entity of NZ, like Hong Kong with China, or Seoul in Korea.

That way revenue collected in Auckland could be spent entirely in Auckland, rather than being used to prop up the rest of the country while we get poor value for money. We would also avoid the current situation with the likes of Wellingtonians deciding what's best for us from 650km away.

Thats life - Live with it! it is never going to change! Cities (Auckland is not the only place!!!) are always going to have to financially support rural areas, and so they should, without the rural areas we wouldn't be the country we are. Aucklanders are way to self centred! Auckland would be nothing on its own!

Kane007

· #492 · Jul 6, 2006

That no income tax comment just reminded me of the scene from Armageddon when those rock jockies were negotiating their price!

Moveax

· #493 · Jul 6, 2006

dubious said:
:rofl: how accurate!
The politicians point is a good one. I'm all for Auckland breaking away from Wellington's control in one way or another. It should be made a self-governing entity of NZ, like Hong Kong with China, or Seoul in Korea.

That way revenue collected in Auckland could be spent entirely in Auckland, rather than being used to prop up the rest of the country while we get poor value for money. We would also avoid the current situation with the likes of Wellingtonians deciding what's best for us from 650km away.

It is hardly wellingtonians deciding whats best for you, helen clark is from the waikato. Just because parliament is in wellington does not mean that politicians are from here.

property_boy

· #494 · Jul 6, 2006

dubious said:
:rofl: how accurate!
The politicians point is a good one. I'm all for Auckland breaking away from Wellington's control in one way or another. It should be made a self-governing entity of NZ, like Hong Kong with China, or Seoul in Korea.

That way revenue collected in Auckland could be spent entirely in Auckland, rather than being used to prop up the rest of the country while we get poor value for money. We would also avoid the current situation with the likes of Wellingtonians deciding what's best for us from 650km away.

A different approach for sure.. .but although Auckland is a fast growing city and does dominate as the largest urban area in the country. You should think that there are some near 3 million other New Zealanders spread throughout the country, Aucklands economy is strongly based on finance and the service industry which is supported by the wider New Zealand population.. what about all the massive distriubtion centres and head offices, I'd say more than half their workload would be for areas outside Auckland. All the call centres (I unfourtunately work in one while studying).. every day I answer calls with a good majority outside of the city. So yeah my view is Auckland wouldn't be what it is without the population mass to support it from no only within the city but all the other centres in New Zealand.
Why shouldn't the government have control.. the whole country is pretty much a small state anyway (less than Victoria and NSW).

property_boy

· #495 · Jul 6, 2006

Moveax said:
It is hardly wellingtonians deciding whats best for you, helen clark is from the waikato. Just because parliament is in wellington does not mean that politicians are from here.

Good point, the Prime Minister is the MP for Mt Albert in Auckland and has her main residence here too.
Yeah some 650km away but only 45 minutes on the plane, and I'm sure not all the deal making is done in Wellington given the near half hourly flights running between the two cities.

G

· #496 · Jul 6, 2006

Now that you have all spoken over me, I shall ask this again and I shall only ask this once

QUESTIONS for Wellingtonians:

I have the following questions ...

1. The area where Century City is being built consists of little "wharehouses", are there plans to convert the area into a mixed-use precinct ? I love what they have done with the FORD workshops (keeping the old facades and building high tech apartments behind it)

2. The electrical wires in Throndon's main street, are there any plans to put them underground ?

3. We drove through a very old area on our way to the Mount Victoria lookout and I noticed that there are also loads of electrical wires - any plans for these to be placed underground ?

4. Which suburbs are very upmarket ?

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Moveax

· #497 · Jul 6, 2006

1: I don't know what or where that is.
2 and 3: I have no idea, but I doubt it. Mainly because thats for the power companies to deal with and not up to wellington I think and as the saying goes if it aint broke don't fix it. Some people might even prefer it left the way it is, because thats how it always was. Only newer areas or areas that have undergone redevelopment seem to have underground powerlines.
4: All the very expensive places seem to be in oriental bay, makes sense you're real close to the city. Supermarket real close, entertainment close, work places close (considering so many people work in the cbd). Everythings within walking distance. Also great views of the harbour, the city, and the rimutaka/tararua ranges. And the beach of course.

G

· #498 · Jul 6, 2006

^^^ ok - thanks

Speaking of supermarkets, I loved the New World Metro in the city centre - what a shop !!

Mr.KOngo

· #499 · Jul 7, 2006

ENIGMA said:
^^^ ok - thanks Speaking of supermarkets, I loved the New World Metro in the city centre - what a shop !!

What an expensive shop more like it

G

· #500 · Jul 7, 2006

Mr.KOngo said:
What an expensive shop more like it

Oh - my bf always pays so it doesn't concern me

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