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Staying on top of our game​



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What we wanted Populous to take into consideration​

Our brief to Populous noted that our location adjacent to the CBD and major transport hub was ideal and we did not need to increase seating capacity. What we wanted to do was invest in the future to provide an enhanced experience for our patrons to the standard of world’s best practice.
Populous also noted that:
• The Stadium bookends the key central city waterfront attractions and the linkages with the city are important
• The Stadium, the only waterfront stadium in New Zealand, has outstanding views to the harbour and the Tinakori hills that should be featured from the public concourse. The first step was to consult with key stakeholders, Wellington City Council, Greater Wellington Regional Council, Positively Wellington Tourism, city and regional planners, venue hirers, members and corporate users, service providers such as caterers and neighbours.

They told us to:
• Improve the entry plaza
• Cover the walkway
• Install a roof
• Build a 1000 seat dining room
• Add an indoor concert arena
• Reinstate the Thorndon overbridge
• Enhance the patron concourse experience
• Enhance the members lounge experience
• Consider the environment
• Improve media areas
• Upgrade the home team changing room
• Enhance the vehicle and traffic management
• Upgrade the technology
• Replace the external cladding.

In addition to the consultation process, Populous and the management and Trustees of the Stadium have pursued these and other concepts, reviewed stadiums and other entertainment venues, and patron experiences throughout Australasia and internationally. Our Master Plan developments have been benchmarked against world’s best practice.​

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Focus areas for our forward planning​

Against each of these the task has been to marry what is possible with what is affordable and still meet our objectives for both today and the future. There is nothing pie in the sky about the concepts now on the table – the next step has been to work through the priorities and where appropriate the final concepts. Before we begin on outlining our immediate and future plans it is worth looking at what was not achievable:
• Installing a roof
• Building a 1000 seat dining room
• Reinstating the Thorndon overbridge
• Attaching an indoor concert arena.Without going into too much detail it is worth outlining the results of our exploration of adding a roof, given this has received a great deal of comment. The Trust has undertaken some high level assessments into costs, feasibility and benefits of putting a roof on the Stadium.

The particular challenges are:
• The Stadium is built of light weight concrete and cannot support any additional structures, therefore either additional foundation work would have to be done, or a separate structure built to support a roof
• There is a height restriction in the Thorndon area. The Stadium has a resource consent that permits us to build to only 26 metres. There would be many resource consent issues and potential problems with the neighbours in building a structure covering the Stadium
• The existing light towers need to be at the current height mainly due to cricket requirements
• Any roof would need to be above the light towers
• Any roof construction needs to provide airflow within the Stadium so grass can grow
• It is likely that there would be serious wind loadings on a roof that would create major additional costs to resolve some high level estimates for costs, from our consultants, have varied between $60 and $80 million for construction of the roof.

This is beyond the financial resources of the Wellington Regional Stadium Trust and the local councils would need to assist in the funding of such a project.Nothing in the Master Plan prevents the addition of a roof at some time in the future.It is the opinion of the Trust that at a cost of $60 –$80 million there would need to be a debate on whether that money would be better spent on funding a purpose built indoor arena. A covered Stadium would not attract the smaller 10,000 –12,000 seated concerts, which are the majority of concerts that are currently touring and bypassing Wellington.

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Discussion Starter · #4 · (Edited)
The Master Plan​

The Master Plan is a series of distinct projects that will be phased in over time in keeping with priorities involving:
• Event requirements
• Cashflows
• Planning and design requirements. Each phase will also be implemented to fit in with the different
requirements of the Stadium event schedule and timed to match our cash flows. There is no ongoing commitment to construction or expenditure beyond each distinct phase.

Phase 1 – 2012–2016
Stage one of this phase covers the 2012/2013 year and detailed planning and programming is already underway. This year includes the:
• Upgrade of the Deloitte Club Lounge on level 3
• Upgrade of the main changing rooms and construction of additional changing rooms
• Construction of match offices
• Construction of media facilities.

The estimated cost for this work is $5.0 million.Its timing ensures both our readiness for the two upcoming World Cups, the 2015 Cricket World Cup and the 2015 Under 20 FIFA World Cup, and our ability to conduct any significant alterations to the Stadium before and during these events. Stage one of Phase One also helps us in our readiness in advance of the renewals of the Sevens contract and our memberships.The Trust is determined to provide additional significant upgrades for both members and the public prior to 2015.

Other stages of Phase 1 include:
2013 /14
• Construction of the mezzanine lounge bar on the public concourse, western side providing a space that not only provides a meeting place for before and after the event but also views and light.
The estimated cost of this work is $2.0 million although no detailed plans are available yet.

2014 /15
• Standing room at the back of the bleachers where people can watch the game with friends around bar leaners.
• Upgrade of the Deloitte Lounge, level 4.
The provisional estimated cost of this work is $2.0 million.

• Construction of a mezzanine lounge on the public concourse, eastern side.
• Consequential upgrade of the surrounding public concourse.
• Upgrade of the Deloitte Gallery, level 4.
• Technology upgrade.
The estimated cost of this work is $7.5 million.

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How can we pay for this?​

This project does not require any financial support or funding from either the City or Regional Councils. It can be fully funded from the Trust’s own cash resources and by utilising its borrowing capacity. 80% of the project cost over the next three to five years can be funded out of the Stadium’s profits and free cash flows, with the balance coming from a small increase in our current level of borrowing to the level of our current credit lines. This compares with $34 million of borrowing we had in 2001.
The Trust believes the debt can be serviced out of projected profits. Towards the future Beyond 2016 are phases 2 and 3, where concepts and ideas have been explored but by no means finalised.

These include:
PhASE 2 – 2016 plus
Covering of the entrance gate and shelter on the walkway.

PhASE 3 – 2016 plus
Replacement of the exterior cladding.​


Kiwi in London
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All sounding very good.

I agree with reinstating the bridge to Thorndon. I assume that will go over the tracks and come out near the VTNZ building?

I disagree with the enhancing the concourse. What are they going to do, add a few tree, maybe a park bench? In my opinion they should leave the concourse as open as possible. It's already jam packed before and after big games, adding 'enhancements' would only make the concourse more crowded.

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From the first rendering you can see that there will be some simple green (like the example of Juventus Stadium) or a park with public areas (such as the Bird's Nest Stadium). We see this more clearly with other future designs. I hope that they publish something soon :) Anyway, I really like outdoor installations, like the first picture, makes the stadium more attractive, and also with excellent and appropriate lighting effects, you will have a beautiful view, during the evening and at night, along the waterfront :cheers:

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I put pictures that I found. Also I do not know if things will change. In-depth research by all, will certainly know if there is something more. In future the project could change maybe, but even the first image, I think it's amazing. As I said before, with a proper play of lights and shadows, the Westpac Stadium could add more value to the waterfront :)

I put pictures that I found. Also I do not know if things will change. In-depth research by all, will certainly know if there is something more. In future the project could change maybe, but even the first image, I think it's amazing. As I said before, with a proper play of lights and shadows, the Westpac Stadium could add more value to the waterfront :)
Cross fingers and pray :)

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Railyards venue plan for concerts

An indoor concert venue to be perched above the tracks just outside Wellington railway station is in the planning stages.

The 9000-seat venue, to cater for rock concerts, exhibitions and other events, would be sited about halfway between the station and Westpac Stadium.

Wellington City Council chief executive Kevin Lavery has confirmed it is exploring opportunities for a concert venue, "and we are of course interested in the option of a construction above the railyards or any other suitable site".

The council has backed the idea of a new indoor concert arena as one of its eight big ideas for economic growth.

Lavery said it was undertaking a "venues review" and there would be a funding proposal as part of the Long-Term Plan for a new concert venue.

It is understood infrastructure consultancy group Opus has been involved in planning work for the railyard proposal.

Concert promoter Phil Sprey has previously voiced his support for an indoor arena in Wellington that could compete with Auckland's 12,000-seat Vector Arena.

At present, the capital misses out on scores of touring artists - and the revenue they would bring - because it has no suitably sized venue between the 4000-seat TSB Arena and the 34,500-seat Westpac Stadium.

But Sprey saw two problems with the railyard proposal - its size, and its position above the railway tracks.

Sprey, who is bringing Elton John to Westpac Stadium in November next year, had heard the capacity of the proposed venue could be 11,000.

Even at that size, he believed it would be too small.

"Touring artists are wanting to expand into venues which are anywhere between 12,000 to 15,000 [seats] . . . if we are planning it now, we should be planning ahead."

Having an arena of 9000 to 11,000 seats might lead to expensive ticket prices to cover costs, he said. "If you want to go and see an international artist . . . you could be looking at something like an average of $400 to $500 a seat."

He was also concerned about the proposed arena being built over the railyards.

"There are vibration and sound issues," he said. "You will not get an orchestra playing over a railway station."

Years ago, he worked for a company that looked at building an entertainment centre in the same area. It was ruled out because of the same vibration and noise problems, he said.

The Port Nicholson Block Settlement Trust has the right to buy Wellington railway station, including the airspace above the tracks, as part of its Treaty settlement. Trust chairman Neville Baker declined to comment on the arena proposal.

Sprey believes an indoor venue should be built on CentrePort's log farm, on the harbour side of Westpac Stadium, with a multi-level car park built on the site above the railway tracks. CentrePort has consistently maintained the log farm is not an option, because it is strategically important to its business.

Positively Wellington Tourism chief executive David Perks said any move to get an indoor concert venue up and running in the capital had his support.

While no modelling had been done to predict the exact tourism spinoffs, it was clear the market demand had shifted from all-purpose to dedicated venues, he said.

"It has a lot to do with sound quality and seating arrangements. My understanding is that TSB [Arena] is the wrong shape, and elevation, and all of these things.

"TSB has always been something of a compromise between a concert hall, a sporting venue and a conference space."

A new venue near the railway station sounded like a good idea, given how well the location had worked for Westpac Stadium.

Source: The Dominion Post

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Hopefully this would lead to a redevelopment of the TSB Arena (or whatever it is called now) down on the waterfront.
TSB Arena suffers from too many cooks spoiling the broth and trying to be all things to all people. With the purpose-built convention centre and concert arena proposals, it can be repurposed for a more precise use, such as indoor sports only.

Merit Man
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Inregards to Westpac, I don't believe it was posted, a while back, an article was penned about replacing the cladding of Westpac with glass. In the initial post it is hinted at just this.

It's an interesting read, involves Ralph Roberts one of the designers who idealises making bleachers (?) to bring fans closer to the pitch and then dropping a curtain over the corporate boxes.

Just another thought. Not so sure on roofing or his sports model...
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