for me the rhen ruhr is one of the biggest agglomerations worldwide and the biggest in germany imo ! it has 12 million inhabitans ,including wesel hamm Dortmund , Essen , Duisburg Krefeld ,mönchengladbach ,Wuppertal and bonn ! what you think about this area ... ?
WHAT COMES IN YOUR MIND WHEN YOU HEAR "Rhein Ruhr" !?
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^Yum your aspect is interesting i think you mean only the ruhr area (ruhrgebiet) with 5,8 million in. i think a lot of the industry there are went to south africa and china , and the old "zechen" are turned in to green parcs and culture .... . but the rhein ruhr is not only ruhr area ! there are cities like Cologne with his beautiful Altmarkt , düsseldorf with the famous "kö" and the ex political capital bonn .garpie said:
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Museum Bochum-Dahlhausen
Centro Oberhausen
Raststätte Hünxe
Mc Donald`s Wesel
Intermodellbau Dortmund
Schalke 04 und Borussia Dortmund
Tierpark Dortmund
Grugapark Essen
Döner
Jugendherberge Hagen
Fachwerkhäuser Hattingen
Umleitung durch Recklinghausen
Güterbahnhof Hamm
Always positive feelings about the Ruhr Area.
Centro Oberhausen
Raststätte Hünxe
Mc Donald`s Wesel
Intermodellbau Dortmund
Schalke 04 und Borussia Dortmund
Tierpark Dortmund
Grugapark Essen
Döner
Jugendherberge Hagen
Fachwerkhäuser Hattingen
Umleitung durch Recklinghausen
Güterbahnhof Hamm
Always positive feelings about the Ruhr Area.
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I guess one of the most populated areas of Europe.
For me the Rhein Ruhr represents many different things:
* A number of quite beautiful and fascinating small-medium cities: Like Köln, Düsseldorf, Bonn
* A number of very average and grim cities: Essen, Dortmund etc
* A number of fascinating and interesting small centers like Wüppertel (with it's ancient hanging monorail)
* A very impressive commuter/suburban rail system
* An area divided by Rustbelt industry (either in decline, dead, or in some cases wonderfully renovated)
But most of all, despite all the fascination and some beautiful parts, as an urban lover I find it one of the most depressing urban area's on earth. Why?
* Because of it's provincialism and poly-centric makeup.
Thinking about it, it's one of the largest urban area's in the world, and yet is possibly the least known in the Western World. Although it may sound nice to have a giant urban area with so many fascinating "downtowns", none of them for me are large or interesting enough to stand out on it's own. And I can't be the only one here. Few people outside of Europe has heard of the Rhein Ruhr, and just as few has heard of any of the individual cities, or if they have, know nothing about them - And this is an urban area of 10-12million people!
It's like a communal city, every part sharing a "little" of the urban experience, but none the whole. Whilst splitting the urban delights amongst so many separate downtowns, there is no great single heart or center. The Rhein Ruhr has the population of London or Paris (and when looking at the whole region, even more) yet there is nothing for me that London and Paris can offer - and again, I would suspect the same for many others - just ask someone outside of Europe, where will they prefer to visit. London, Paris, Rome, Berlin, Venice, Rhein Ruhr?
Even smaller urban area's with one great center offers more. Barcelona, Madrid, Rome, Sydney, Melbourne, Berlin... etc.
It's still a very interesting area, with, as I said, so many city centers. I just wish it had a large single heart. I wish one of the cities in the Rhein Ruhr grew to become it's main primary center. The others will still posper, but then, for me, it would become something more than the least known great urban area on earth. A city is like a human. It needs a head, a heart and a single central point. I think this is perfectly demonstrated by the Rhein Ruhr.
Two analogy's come to mind:
What would rather have this week. One night of great amazing breathtaking sex, with the woman of your dreams, or 5 average shags each night with a run of the mill looking woman (or man if you so choose)
or would you rather have an amazing meal in great resturant one night this week, or go to 5 average resturants over the next few days.
By the way, in a few weeks I should be up there in Köln and Düsseldorf, probably the two best cities in the Rhein Ruhr.
* A number of quite beautiful and fascinating small-medium cities: Like Köln, Düsseldorf, Bonn
* A number of very average and grim cities: Essen, Dortmund etc
* A number of fascinating and interesting small centers like Wüppertel (with it's ancient hanging monorail)
* A very impressive commuter/suburban rail system
* An area divided by Rustbelt industry (either in decline, dead, or in some cases wonderfully renovated)
But most of all, despite all the fascination and some beautiful parts, as an urban lover I find it one of the most depressing urban area's on earth. Why?
* Because of it's provincialism and poly-centric makeup.
Thinking about it, it's one of the largest urban area's in the world, and yet is possibly the least known in the Western World. Although it may sound nice to have a giant urban area with so many fascinating "downtowns", none of them for me are large or interesting enough to stand out on it's own. And I can't be the only one here. Few people outside of Europe has heard of the Rhein Ruhr, and just as few has heard of any of the individual cities, or if they have, know nothing about them - And this is an urban area of 10-12million people!
It's like a communal city, every part sharing a "little" of the urban experience, but none the whole. Whilst splitting the urban delights amongst so many separate downtowns, there is no great single heart or center. The Rhein Ruhr has the population of London or Paris (and when looking at the whole region, even more) yet there is nothing for me that London and Paris can offer - and again, I would suspect the same for many others - just ask someone outside of Europe, where will they prefer to visit. London, Paris, Rome, Berlin, Venice, Rhein Ruhr?
Even smaller urban area's with one great center offers more. Barcelona, Madrid, Rome, Sydney, Melbourne, Berlin... etc.
It's still a very interesting area, with, as I said, so many city centers. I just wish it had a large single heart. I wish one of the cities in the Rhein Ruhr grew to become it's main primary center. The others will still posper, but then, for me, it would become something more than the least known great urban area on earth. A city is like a human. It needs a head, a heart and a single central point. I think this is perfectly demonstrated by the Rhein Ruhr.
Two analogy's come to mind:
What would rather have this week. One night of great amazing breathtaking sex, with the woman of your dreams, or 5 average shags each night with a run of the mill looking woman (or man if you so choose)
or would you rather have an amazing meal in great resturant one night this week, or go to 5 average resturants over the next few days.
By the way, in a few weeks I should be up there in Köln and Düsseldorf, probably the two best cities in the Rhein Ruhr.
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Smokestacks, factory slaves, air and water pollution, grey faceless cities - from a historical point of view.
Nowadays: Nice modern architecture in Düsseldorf, Wuppertal Monorail, industrial parks, although still ecomonically weak and culturally dead big cities (apart maybe from the mentioned DD or Bochum).
Nowadays: Nice modern architecture in Düsseldorf, Wuppertal Monorail, industrial parks, although still ecomonically weak and culturally dead big cities (apart maybe from the mentioned DD or Bochum).
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German industrial might.
During WW2, carpet bombing targets by the British during nighttime and the Yanks during daytime. :runaway:
Would like to visit Germany one of these days.
During WW2, carpet bombing targets by the British during nighttime and the Yanks during daytime. :runaway:
Would like to visit Germany one of these days.
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